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GomTV3 MSL Ro8 - Savior vs. Free - Page 25
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Sadness
Brazil552 Posts
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Sigrun
United States1655 Posts
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
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NonY
8751 Posts
On October 26 2007 02:38 AcquiescE wrote: bisu is not savior. Bisu was a reaction to saviors dominance. Yes, the reaction was strong and emphatic....but now that savior knows whats to expect... uh' bisu will be raped and savior may even crack a smile Bisu's win rate vs savior is close to 90% and it'd be ridiculous to expect him to maintain that, but it's even harder to imagine that savior could tip it to his side anytime soon. i think bisu will have a 70%+ chance of winning a bo5 against savior if he has to face him in this MSL. and bisu will always maintain a winning record against savior, similar to iloveoov vs nada and nal_ra vs boxer. anyway, bisu is well on his way to his own dominance. if he wins this MSL and wins an OSL, along with some key victories over S-class terrans, he'll have proven himself in every way possible. then it'll just be a matter of how long he can keep it up | ||
Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
In game 2 Free stopped scouting after the first probe died. Bisu never stops scouting. In GomTV1 Finals Bisu was always aware of savior's moves. I'm not sayin Savior hasn't evolved. Instead of trying to going head to head and using the same openings he's mixed it up every game. All 4 games he's used a different unit mix, a different theme. Hydra rush, 3 hatch zerglings rush, dbl expo, and mass expo to mass muta style, one we haven't seen in a while. Unfortunately these are strategies that have a limit. They don't work all the time, and now that Savior's used it on Free he'll have to come up with something different if he wants to take down Bisu. | ||
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amorpheus
Bulgaria2144 Posts
[B]On October 26 2007 03:51 WhatisProtoss wrote:It's better to get archons against mutalisks instead of storm. Free just never could get a sizable group of corsairs since he kept losing them one at a time. It was at least kind of strange that Free didn't cast a single storm in the last game. With that many mutalisks from Savior, not to mention the guardians it could've been better than the scattered archons that died as easily as the few corsairs. Maybe just Savior is regaining form and Free's pvz sucks hard (the second statement is more probable) ... | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
On October 26 2007 05:54 amorpheus wrote: It was at least kind of strange that Free didn't cast a single storm in the last game. With that many mutalisks from Savior, not to mention the guardians it could've been better than the scattered archons that died as easily as the few corsairs. Maybe just Savior is regaining form and Free's pvz sucks hard (the second statement is more probable) ... I don't think Savior is out of his slump. Free's pvz is just sloppy. I really like Free's agressive play style in other mu's though. His PvP is just as good as the current Stork's. | ||
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
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Jim
Sweden1965 Posts
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amorpheus
Bulgaria2144 Posts
[B]On October 26 2007 05:58 EpiK wrote: I don't think Savior is out of his slump. Free's pvz is just sloppy. I really like Free's agressive play style in other mu's though. His PvP is just as good as the current Stork's. Well Savior still is very strong player and will probably make it to the final; pure logic says Bisu will smash everyone in the way to third consecutive MSL Neither any of the two terrans can stop Savior or ra or xellos can stop bisu but still it's a game and everything happens. P.S. I would gladly watch Kwanro vs Savior at the final, haven't seen much of Savior's zvz lately ... | ||
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
United States2869 Posts
On October 25 2007 20:02 DJEtterStyle wrote: TRY THIS AGAINST BISU, SAVIOR. I DARE YOU. This game is just more proof sAviOr can do WHATEVER THE FUCK HE WANTS and still win. Just like the good ol' days. (game 4) | ||
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
United States2869 Posts
On October 26 2007 04:21 Sadness wrote: Free is a good player, but Bisu and Stork are soooooooo in another level You just can´t compare them Actually, we have the wonderful TLPD to compair them with, and oh look, Free's PvP is better then storks, and almost as good as bisu's. Free 57.14% PvZ Bisu 67.57% PvZ Stork 50% PvZ Looks like Stork isn't really out of free's league, eh? and like 10 of free's losses are to savior. | ||
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Darkmole
United States900 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Furthermore, I could argue Stork's weakness against Zerg is somewhat forgivable (especially compared to Free's inconsistency against terrans) given that most zergs not named Savior (and July... but July has been hit or miss lately) suck at the matchup. If Free can't beat Savior either, he's not in much better shape than Stork is. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20074 Posts
On October 26 2007 05:58 EpiK wrote: I don't think Savior is out of his slump. Free's pvz is just sloppy. I really like Free's agressive play style in other mu's though. His PvP is just as good as the current Stork's. Free has extremely good pvz. Excluding savior, he is 23-10. Bisu is 22-12 in comparison. Doesnt matter, savior will win both starleagues regardless. | ||
Nyovne
Netherlands19135 Posts
On October 26 2007 07:39 decafchicken wrote: Free has extremely good pvz. Excluding savior, he is 23-10. Bisu is 22-12 in comparison. Doesnt matter, savior will win both starleagues regardless. Preach on brother, preach on. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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NonY
8751 Posts
On October 26 2007 07:39 decafchicken wrote: Free has extremely good pvz. Excluding savior, he is 23-10. Bisu is 22-12 in comparison. Doesnt matter, savior will win both starleagues regardless. why would you exclude savior? he's the most important opponent. free is a top A-class PvZ player and it takes an S-Class zerg like savior to show his weaknesses in PvZ. sloppy is a good description the only comparison to make between Bisu and Free is that they get similarly good results against A-class and worse opponents, but Bisu continues with those results against S-Class whereas Free does not. | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On October 26 2007 08:01 NonY[rC] wrote: why would you exclude savior? he's the most important opponent. free is a top A-class PvZ player and it takes an S-Class zerg like savior to show his weaknesses in PvZ. sloppy is a good description the only comparison to make between Bisu and Free is that they get similarly good results against A-class and worse opponents, but Bisu continues with those results against S-Class whereas Free does not. Well it could also just be that Bisu's pvz style works better vs savior than Free's does... | ||
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