EPTWithout them I likely would not have watched this ASL at all.
[ASL11] Grand Finals - Page 18
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Recommended Games + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler [Set 1] + the kind of game you don't want to see in the finals. + Show Spoiler [Set 2] + if you like watching someone pick their opponent apart piece by piece, this is the game for you. + Show Spoiler [Set 3] + big plays at the right time. + Show Spoiler [Set 4] + ![[image loading]](https://media1.tenor.com/images/23e0c630db24bcbae5594fb638af2e85/tenor.gif) + Show Spoiler [Set 5] + yes, well worth the watch + Show Spoiler [Set 6] + huge play, huge payoff + Show Spoiler [Set 7] + I highly recommend Korean commentary for this game. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21332 Posts
Without them I likely would not have watched this ASL at all. | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On June 06 2021 22:41 Peeano wrote: Seeing all this Tastosis talk on TL, it would color them well if they inform their fanbase a bit better about TL and BW's community. Tastosis may be big fans of BW, but they're mainly in it for the money (which is not too surprising, as casting is their profession). The latter being very apparent when they first started casting BW again and didn't even know what half of the units are called anymore, nor had any idea about how the game is played. It was really painful to watch, especially since Tasteless' casting on GomTV is what got me hooked me on watching Korean BW back in the day. I for one really enjoyed Nyoken and Scan's casting. They understand the game at a very high level and are also well informed with the almost all of BW's history, unlike Tastosis. It feels like Tastosis are just doing their thing in their own bubble, only interested in promoting their own brand. I even saw Tasteless streaming himself playing BW during the live ASL Final. That felt really awkward to say the least, kinda disrespectful actually. I really needed to get that off of my chest. /end rant Couldn't agree more. I always watch the ASL with korean commentary but I'll probably give Nyoken and Scan a shot eventually. | ||
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ERSJ
Sweden57 Posts
Is there by any chance a ASL11 Spotify playlist..? | ||
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Hollow
Canada2180 Posts
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angry_maia
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
Congratulations to Larva. Great series. Even though Mini didn’t win, I think that he has made significant progress in improving his mentality. I think he has it in him to win it all, hopefully he knows this. Also stoked that Larva said he plans to chose interesting games during seeding as opposed to easy matchs. That’s been one of my gripes for awhile, so I’m happy he feels the same way | ||
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weiliem
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
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Marl
United States692 Posts
also thanks to scan and nyoken for their live casting. I feel like I've learned more listening to their casts especially regarding timing windows. I don't know why tastosis refused to cast live even though people patreon'd them. | ||
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mcmartini
Australia1972 Posts
On June 06 2021 22:41 Peeano wrote: Seeing all this Tastosis talk on TL, it would color them well if they inform their fanbase a bit better about TL and BW's community. Tastosis may be big fans of BW, but they're mainly in it for the money (which is not too surprising, as casting is their profession). The latter being very apparent when they first started casting BW again and didn't even know what half of the units are called anymore, nor had any idea about how the game is played. It was really painful to watch, especially since Tasteless' casting on GomTV is what got me hooked me on watching Korean BW back in the day. I for one really enjoyed Nyoken and Scan's casting. They understand the game at a very high level and are also well informed with the almost all of BW's history, unlike Tastosis. It feels like Tastosis are just doing their thing in their own bubble, only interested in promoting their own brand. I even saw Tasteless streaming himself playing BW during the live ASL Final. That felt really awkward to say the least, kinda disrespectful actually. I really needed to get that off of my chest. /end rant They offered to cast without pay this season, they took a pay cut for the last season when they wanted to cancel it….I don’t think they’re in it just for the money at all. The fact they they had cast another game for years before coming back to cast BW probably has something to do with that, I think it’s really in unfair to say they’re only in it for the money. If they were in it just for the money could drop BW and just focus on the other games they have English casting jobs for. Also play those more popular games then stream BW. Tasteless and Artosis are also both not watching the games before casting them, so maybe that’s likely why Tasteless was streaming then. It’s not like him streaming stopped anyone watching the finals so how is that disrespectful? | ||
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Improvement
203 Posts
On June 06 2021 22:41 Peeano wrote: Seeing all this Tastosis talk on TL, it would color them well if they inform their fanbase a bit better about TL and BW's community. Tastosis may be big fans of BW, but they're mainly in it for the money (which is not too surprising, as casting is their profession). The latter being very apparent when they first started casting BW again and didn't even know what half of the units are called anymore, nor had any idea about how the game is played. It was really painful to watch, especially since Tasteless' casting on GomTV is what got me hooked me on watching Korean BW back in the day. I for one really enjoyed Nyoken and Scan's casting. They understand the game at a very high level and are also well informed with the almost all of BW's history, unlike Tastosis. It feels like Tastosis are just doing their thing in their own bubble, only interested in promoting their own brand. I even saw Tasteless streaming himself playing BW during the live ASL Final. That felt really awkward to say the least, kinda disrespectful actually. I really needed to get that off of my chest. /end rant Gotta agree with you, next season I want Scan & Nyoken again. | ||
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A.Alm
Sweden506 Posts
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TMNT
2316 Posts
On June 07 2021 05:17 Marl wrote: what a let down by mini - reputation as a choker cemented even though he made it to game 7 in the finals. Don't remember Mini having a choker reputation any time. People seem to abuse this term so much that sometimes it feels like any player who loses is a choker. For starters, one must lose to a player he's supposed to win to be considered a choker. I don't think Mini is favorite to win this tournament at all, nor is he favorite against Larva. If anything, Mini subverted expectation to go all the way to the last game of the final. | ||
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Lazyer
United States314 Posts
Scan + Nyoken really grew on me. They seem knowledgeable of the current meta and paying attention to the fine grain details- and as long as their connection is good, I'd tune in again. Only exception is pointing out Mini's thumbnail which I can't seem to forget as much as I try. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia12799 Posts
If Larva goes the standard early expo, Mini wins there like 90%. It's debateable whether he should have taken such a big risk in such a big game, but he isn't blindly doing that build. FS is an ideal map for Larva's muta turtle into hydra style so Mini is no doubt taking a big, but educated risk, on Larva's opener. From Larva's side, I reckon he was preparing for Mini going 1 gate expand (as he had been most of his games). His 9 pool can do a lot of damage to that and if Mini goes proxy gates (which obv happened) it's an auto win for him. So it makes a lot of sense for him to 9 pool there. It was fortunate for him Mini chose the build his 9 pool gets an auto win against. But that's not a choke from Mini. A choke would've been if Larva went the early expo and Mini somehow bottled it having gone the proxy gates. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2368 Posts
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66071 Posts
On June 07 2021 10:34 RowdierBob wrote: Mini didn't choke. He went for the BO win and whether by luck or design, Larva countered it perfectly. If Larva goes the standard early expo, Mini wins there like 90%. It's debateable whether he should have taken such a big risk in such a big game, but he isn't blindly doing that build. FS is an ideal map for Larva's muta turtle into hydra style so Mini is no doubt taking a big, but educated risk, on Larva's opener. From Larva's side, I reckon he was preparing for Mini going 1 gate expand (as he had been most of his games). His 9 pool can do a lot of damage to that and if Mini goes proxy gates (which obv happened) it's an auto win for him. So it makes a lot of sense for him to 9 pool there. It was fortunate for him Mini chose the build his 9 pool gets an auto win against. But that's not a choke from Mini. A choke would've been if Larva went the early expo and Mini somehow bottled it having gone the proxy gates. exactly, calling it a throw or choke is doing the risk taking that mini decided to take a disservice. he went for a high risk high reward play and didnt work out. if it worked out, all the doubters here would be calling him “lucky” or 5Head lmao cant please everyone | ||
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MapleLeafSirup
Germany950 Posts
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Terrorbladder
2704 Posts
On June 06 2021 21:32 oxKnu wrote: BW without Flash is lolzergwinseverything.Yep. This is actually how BW should look like, full of excitement, mindgames and unpredictability. | ||
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