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I highly recommend Korean commentary for this game.

KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4396 Posts
June 06 2021 12:41 GMT
#321
On June 06 2021 21:37 outscar wrote:
Hey Kevin the GOAT CEO, how about you will make Tastosis stream comeback next ASL? We wanna watch english commentary live pls.


I watched in english and live today. What do you mean?
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
June 06 2021 12:42 GMT
#322
Now that's some proper ceremony without mask. Honestly, seeing Larva standing there and kissing trophy kinda feels unreal. He came this far to achieve this. As a Larva fan I used to be 50/50 fan of him, whenever he choked I stopped supporting but right now happiest day of my life.
sunbeams are never made like me...
LpTraxamillion
Profile Joined October 2020
265 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-06 12:45:20
June 06 2021 12:43 GMT
#323
On June 06 2021 21:33 Alessandro74 wrote:
Does anyone thinks (besides me) that Mini did the most obvious thing in the last game? I mean, ffs. What a throw...

You could smell the 2 Proxy Gate from miles away... and Larva knew it


I knew it was coming in one of the last 3 games. Larva thought that or nex was very likely so he made a nice hard read

I do feel like it was kind of a cop out from Mini to 2gate. Maybe the pressure got to him. He would have been favored on FS in a straight up game whereas he instead decided to gamble on something that I imagine displays a lower winrate in that spot long term
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
June 06 2021 12:44 GMT
#324
Yeah the English casters, Scan and whoever that was with him (sorry forgot your name) did a great job and improved a lot during the season. They're obviously not as comfortable behind the micro as Tastosis but they make up for it with vast knowledge and passion, shoutout to them.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2975 Posts
June 06 2021 12:45 GMT
#325
On June 06 2021 21:41 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2021 21:37 outscar wrote:
Hey Kevin the GOAT CEO, how about you will make Tastosis stream comeback next ASL? We wanna watch english commentary live pls.


I watched in english and live today. What do you mean?


Talking about Tastosis doing live ASL casts again rather than having to cast the VODs. Which lots of people want back.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland747 Posts
June 06 2021 12:45 GMT
#326
On June 06 2021 21:37 outscar wrote:
Hey Kevin the GOAT CEO, how about you will make Tastosis stream comeback next ASL? We wanna watch english commentary live pls.


nyoken + scan is live, wdym?
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
June 06 2021 12:47 GMT
#327
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sunbeams are never made like me...
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
June 06 2021 12:47 GMT
#328
On June 06 2021 21:45 Ikirouta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2021 21:37 outscar wrote:
Hey Kevin the GOAT CEO, how about you will make Tastosis stream comeback next ASL? We wanna watch english commentary live pls.


nyoken + scan is live, wdym?


Yeah I know props to them but my cup of tea is Tastosis and I want them back.
sunbeams are never made like me...
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1154 Posts
June 06 2021 12:51 GMT
#329
On June 06 2021 21:33 Alessandro74 wrote:
Does anyone thinks (besides me) that Mini did the most obvious thing in the last game? I mean, ffs. What a throw...

You could smell the 2 Proxy Gate from miles away... and Larva knew it

I think that if he had done a standard build and lost to a greedy zerg build people would have criticised that.

If he hadn't done a 2 gate would you have said 'wow I was sure he would 2gate'? No. Commenters only comment when they 'knew'.

He took a risk and it got shut down. Such is life.
Well played by both.
Alessandro74
Profile Joined May 2021
5 Posts
June 06 2021 12:55 GMT
#330
On June 06 2021 21:43 LpTraxamillion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2021 21:33 Alessandro74 wrote:
Does anyone thinks (besides me) that Mini did the most obvious thing in the last game? I mean, ffs. What a throw...

You could smell the 2 Proxy Gate from miles away... and Larva knew it


I knew it was coming in one of the last 3 games. Larva thought that or nex was very likely so he made a nice hard read

I do feel like it was kind of a cop out from Mini to 2gate. Maybe the pressure got to him. He would have been favored on FS in a straight up game whereas he instead decided to gamble on something that I imagine displays a lower winrate in that spot long term


I think Mini handled quite good the first zergling attack, but he was too greedy to not building a forge in base or at least keeping 2 Zeals blocking his ramp, knowing that an ling bust was incoming. Still, everything could be handled if he played standard

Props to Larva, but I wanted to see Mini as a champ tbh. ASL 7, KSL 4 and now. It's a bit sad.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12071 Posts
June 06 2021 12:56 GMT
#331
On June 06 2021 21:47 outscar wrote:
[image loading]


This is an amazing image but the fact the pictures are all out of order are triggering haha
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-06 13:16:05
June 06 2021 12:56 GMT
#332
On June 06 2021 21:43 LpTraxamillion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2021 21:33 Alessandro74 wrote:
Does anyone thinks (besides me) that Mini did the most obvious thing in the last game? I mean, ffs. What a throw...

You could smell the 2 Proxy Gate from miles away... and Larva knew it


I knew it was coming in one of the last 3 games. Larva thought that or nex was very likely so he made a nice hard read

I do feel like it was kind of a cop out from Mini to 2gate. Maybe the pressure got to him. He would have been favored on FS in a straight up game whereas he instead decided to gamble on something that I imagine displays a lower winrate in that spot long term


Yes, good read from Larva. Although I felt that Larva's main aim of going fast pool was to punish or pressure a greedy nexus first opener by mini rather than proxy gates.

Agreed that mini shouldn't cop out either. He should've expected that Larva would likely go early pool to punish his greedy play as well. And why go for such a coin toss at G7?

Anyway, both players delivered a good series. A late game PvZ for G7 would've been the cherry on the cake. But seeing how both players went hard on mind games and ballsy strats, G7 was the natural culmination of the whole series (although rather anti-climatic).
gg no re thx
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
June 06 2021 13:05 GMT
#333
On June 06 2021 21:47 outscar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2021 21:45 Ikirouta wrote:
On June 06 2021 21:37 outscar wrote:
Hey Kevin the GOAT CEO, how about you will make Tastosis stream comeback next ASL? We wanna watch english commentary live pls.


nyoken + scan is live, wdym?


Yeah I know props to them but my cup of tea is Tastosis and I want them back.

Then why didn't you say that instead of pretending there wasn't an English commentary live, and a good one at that.
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile163 Posts
June 06 2021 13:19 GMT
#334
On June 06 2021 22:05 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2021 21:47 outscar wrote:
On June 06 2021 21:45 Ikirouta wrote:
On June 06 2021 21:37 outscar wrote:
Hey Kevin the GOAT CEO, how about you will make Tastosis stream comeback next ASL? We wanna watch english commentary live pls.


nyoken + scan is live, wdym?


Yeah I know props to them but my cup of tea is Tastosis and I want them back.

Then why didn't you say that instead of pretending there wasn't an English commentary live, and a good one at that.

It really is good! I hope that even if Tastosis get their gig back, NyoScan still live cast the next tournaments.
BeSt / Bisu ftw!!
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
June 06 2021 13:39 GMT
#335
On June 06 2021 22:05 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2021 21:47 outscar wrote:
On June 06 2021 21:45 Ikirouta wrote:
On June 06 2021 21:37 outscar wrote:
Hey Kevin the GOAT CEO, how about you will make Tastosis stream comeback next ASL? We wanna watch english commentary live pls.


nyoken + scan is live, wdym?


Yeah I know props to them but my cup of tea is Tastosis and I want them back.

Then why didn't you say that instead of pretending there wasn't an English commentary live, and a good one at that.


Yep, this, let's not have the thread derail into more Tastosis fanboy spam, the stream we had was great

Great set, congrats to Larva and commiserations to Mini
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5994 Posts
June 06 2021 13:41 GMT
#336
Seeing all this Tastosis talk on TL, it would color them well if they inform their fanbase a bit better about TL and BW's community.

Tastosis may be big fans of BW, but they're mainly in it for the money (which is not too surprising, as casting is their profession). The latter being very apparent when they first started casting BW again and didn't even know what half of the units are called anymore, nor had any idea about how the game is played. It was really painful to watch, especially since Tasteless' casting on GomTV is what got me hooked me on watching Korean BW back in the day.

I for one really enjoyed Nyoken and Scan's casting. They understand the game at a very high level and are also well informed with the almost all of BW's history, unlike Tastosis.

It feels like Tastosis are just doing their thing in their own bubble, only interested in promoting their own brand. I even saw Tasteless streaming himself playing BW during the live ASL Final. That felt really awkward to say the least, kinda disrespectful actually. I really needed to get that off of my chest.
/end rant
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5994 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-06 13:46:04
June 06 2021 13:45 GMT
#337
On June 06 2021 21:56 Qikz wrote:
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On June 06 2021 21:47 outscar wrote:
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[image loading]


This is an amazing image but the fact the pictures are all out of order are triggering haha

They are in order by amount of wins first, and by order of ASL second.
FBH #1!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4300 Posts
June 06 2021 13:59 GMT
#338
GGs...
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
June 06 2021 14:12 GMT
#339
What a series, congrats to both players.

Mini will no doubt be regretting his build choice in game 7. I'd wager Larva was anticipating a gate expand build from Mini like that others and was pleasantly surprised when it turned out to be a 2 gate proxy.

In saying that, I'm sure Mini studied Larva's play a lot on that map and no doubt he expos before pool 9 times out of 10. Larva won the mind games though.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines1062 Posts
June 06 2021 14:18 GMT
#340
meh, personally i like scan’s commentary the best because he has a very high level of understanding of the game
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
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