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LpTraxamillion
Profile Joined October 2020
265 Posts
May 23 2021 11:48 GMT
#81
On May 23 2021 20:47 Sonic_md wrote:
Final will be SUPER
mini vs larva will be amazing final,,, larva looking so strong now


Don't sleep on Hero. He has been looking better than Larva imo but who knows how a ZvZ goes down
KT_Parry
Profile Joined May 2021
12 Posts
May 23 2021 11:48 GMT
#82
Why so some call zero and others say queen?
wHY weren artoises and tasles casting tonight as well/?
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova278 Posts
May 23 2021 11:48 GMT
#83
will be FIRST PvsZ final for all ASL seasons
Subscribe to my YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Sonic_md...."SC:BW it is just game, but i love this game!" (c)Sonic_md.
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova278 Posts
May 23 2021 11:49 GMT
#84
On May 23 2021 20:48 KT_Parry wrote:
Why so some call zero and others say queen?
wHY weren artoises and tasles casting tonight as well/?



cause he is MensOl[ZerO] ^^
Subscribe to my YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Sonic_md...."SC:BW it is just game, but i love this game!" (c)Sonic_md.
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
May 23 2021 11:49 GMT
#85
On May 23 2021 20:48 Sonic_md wrote:
will be FIRST PvsZ final for all ASL seasons



VANT starleague was Effort vs Bisu
it's not just a music it's something else
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
May 23 2021 11:51 GMT
#86
On May 23 2021 20:47 LpTraxamillion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2021 20:38 Magic Powers wrote:
Queen didn't focus on the pylon enough. That allowed for a fresh zealot to pop out. Big mistake.


He wins if he either goes all in on it or completely ignores it. Of course Mini played the situation about as well as you can but Zero should NEVER lose in that situation


Zealotcontrol was so insane. Really Mini looks much more complete player than before.
it's not just a music it's something else
chillzzz
Profile Joined August 2018
30 Posts
May 23 2021 11:51 GMT
#87
mini has saved us all from a zvz finals
TdX
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore290 Posts
May 23 2021 11:51 GMT
#88
Dang Mini. That's huge.
GGGGGGGGGGG
LpTraxamillion
Profile Joined October 2020
265 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-23 11:58:16
May 23 2021 11:51 GMT
#89
Also, since when is Mini better than Snow?

Zero should take at least a month off from the game. Just come back fresh. I feel like he's burned out or something. Some games his mechanics etc. Look great but then others he just looks off. Also making worse tactical and strategic decisions than previously kind of like when effort looked lost post military. He was playing so insanely well, looked like the best player to ever touch the game other than flash, then post ASTL (the team event) he just fell off hard. Maybe got some cash in his pocket and just living that streamer life I don't know. Disappointed, I was hype for him to win 3 straight.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
May 23 2021 11:52 GMT
#90
Looks like Mini is interviewing himself alone on stage there.
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
May 23 2021 11:54 GMT
#91
Mini's PvZ was always better than Snow's or any other protoss not named Bisu. His PvZ allowed him to reach an ASL final a few years ago. He is one of a rare type which has PvZ >>> PvT.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8660 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-23 11:57:26
May 23 2021 11:56 GMT
#92
On May 23 2021 20:48 KT_Parry wrote:
Why so some call zero and others say queen?
wHY weren artoises and tasles casting tonight as well/?


It's one of the IDs he used back in the kespa days and it's the one he is most know with (final years of kespa and also his strongest).

On May 23 2021 20:51 LpTraxamillion wrote:
Also, since when is Mini better than Snow?


In PvZ? Always.
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1715 Posts
May 23 2021 11:58 GMT
#93
Trying to understand last game.. should zero have gone for the forge instead of the pylon?
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
LpTraxamillion
Profile Joined October 2020
265 Posts
May 23 2021 12:01 GMT
#94
On May 23 2021 20:58 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
Trying to understand last game.. should zero have gone for the forge instead of the pylon?


I think he could have just microd his lings better, not had half in the main doing nothing a decent amount of the time, and targeted probes when mini sent them to fight more often. He kept getting zealot to 20 hp then leaving to do something else and let shield recharge.

Don't think attacking forge would be correct. It builds hp very fast; usually better to just snipe the cannons themselves
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6872 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-23 12:03:23
May 23 2021 12:02 GMT
#95
On May 23 2021 20:56 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2021 20:48 KT_Parry wrote:
Why so some call zero and others say queen?
wHY weren artoises and tasles casting tonight as well/?


It's one of the IDs he used back in the kespa days and it's the one he is most know with (final years of kespa and also his strongest).

Show nested quote +
On May 23 2021 20:51 LpTraxamillion wrote:
Also, since when is Mini better than Snow?


In PvZ? Always.

Only when he wins.But tl posters memory is super selective.Holyshit I remember how each time mini loss in KSL or ASL in very strange ways u all said his pvz was trash lol . Remember hero vs Mini in the super imba maps ?
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
May 23 2021 12:03 GMT
#96
On May 23 2021 20:58 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
Trying to understand last game.. should zero have gone for the forge instead of the pylon?


He was needlessly hunting down a probe that was moving away from Mini's entrance and that gave a new zealot just enough time to complete. Queen also didn't focus the pylon well enough after he noticed his mistake. Without that zealot, Mini would've likely lost.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
May 23 2021 12:10 GMT
#97
On May 23 2021 21:02 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2021 20:56 Miragee wrote:
On May 23 2021 20:48 KT_Parry wrote:
Why so some call zero and others say queen?
wHY weren artoises and tasles casting tonight as well/?


It's one of the IDs he used back in the kespa days and it's the one he is most know with (final years of kespa and also his strongest).

On May 23 2021 20:51 LpTraxamillion wrote:
Also, since when is Mini better than Snow?


In PvZ? Always.

Only when he wins.But tl posters memory is super selective.Holyshit I remember how each time mini loss in KSL or ASL in very strange ways u all said his pvz was trash lol . Remember hero vs Mini in the super imba maps ?


Mini has been critisized for being tilter and his losses against Flash and Last have painted him to be much worse than he is. But in pvz Mini is better than Snow for sure.
it's not just a music it's something else
lamarine
Profile Joined January 2003
587 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-23 12:14:07
May 23 2021 12:11 GMT
#98
On May 23 2021 21:02 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2021 20:56 Miragee wrote:
On May 23 2021 20:48 KT_Parry wrote:
Why so some call zero and others say queen?
wHY weren artoises and tasles casting tonight as well/?


It's one of the IDs he used back in the kespa days and it's the one he is most know with (final years of kespa and also his strongest).

On May 23 2021 20:51 LpTraxamillion wrote:
Also, since when is Mini better than Snow?


In PvZ? Always.

Only when he wins.But tl posters memory is super selective.Holyshit I remember how each time mini loss in KSL or ASL in very strange ways u all said his pvz was trash lol . Remember hero vs Mini in the super imba maps ?


actually his PvZ stats would say otherwise he's like 70% in ASL which is insane for PvZ. Only Bisu had such insane stats back when he was in prime form

It's just that mini likes to facepalm now and then
So... BW is back
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2597 Posts
May 23 2021 12:16 GMT
#99
Mindblown. Wouldn't have expected these results in a million years. Zero looked sharp from Ro24 to Ro8.

Seems like mini was doing some unconventional timings and all-in aggressions. Hope he can put up a good fight vs Hero/larva
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1258 Posts
May 23 2021 12:17 GMT
#100
Mini's PvZ has always been way above average. In the last 1-2 years he has played close to Bisu's level and that shows in his spon-game win-rate.

The one thing that people don't know about Mini is how bad his PvT is. He truly is capable to losing to anyone in that match-up. If it weren't for PvT, Mini would be undoubtedly the best Protoss in the world and an ASL favorite by default.

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