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Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 20:04:11
July 25 2007 17:22 GMT
#1
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18:30 Kor at MBC

The Games

Game 1
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Nal_rA vs by.fantasy
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@ Monty Hall

Game 2
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Child vs TheManiaMST [image loading]
@ Monty Hall

Game 3 - Winner's Match @ Python
Game 4 - Loser's Match @ Python
Game 5 - Loser's Final @ Desperado

Results
+ Show Spoiler +

Ra > Fantasy
Child < Mania

Ra < Mania
Child < Fantasy

Ra > Fantasy


Predictions
Ra > Fantasy
Child < Mania

Ra > Mania
Child > Fantasy

Child < Mania
[NA] Tyrio.486 / Ahsh
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 25 2007 17:22 GMT
#2
go fantasy
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 25 2007 17:23 GMT
#3
also why did you put quote tags around your post
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
July 25 2007 17:24 GMT
#4
He was probably copying the format from his older live thread post but forgot to get rid of the quote tags.
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
July 25 2007 17:24 GMT
#5
lol

Draco went 2-3 vs By.Fantasy, see what rA can do!

TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 17:26:24
July 25 2007 17:26 GMT
#6
I love this group, well except child
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
frs
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland60 Posts
July 25 2007 17:27 GMT
#7
Atleast there's not a TvT match
Da_PlayerX
Profile Joined January 2006
Bulgaria1304 Posts
July 25 2007 17:28 GMT
#8
On July 26 2007 02:24 Elsi wrote:
lol

Draco went 2-3 vs By.Fantasy, see what rA can do!

yeah nice five games aaaaand impressive play by by.fantasy
tvt msg me anytime
Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 17:31:42
July 25 2007 17:29 GMT
#9
On July 26 2007 02:24 pachi wrote:
He was probably copying the format from his older live thread post but forgot to get rid of the quote tags.


Yup, this is exactly right =P
[NA] Tyrio.486 / Ahsh
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
July 25 2007 17:30 GMT
#10
^^
Da_PlayerX
Profile Joined January 2006
Bulgaria1304 Posts
July 25 2007 17:34 GMT
#11
On July 26 2007 02:27 frs wrote:
Atleast there's not a TvT match
yes but there will be tvst match in losers round:
predictions:
Ra > fantasy
Child > mania

Ra > Child
Fantasy > Mania

Child > Fantasy
tvt msg me anytime
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 17:36 GMT
#12
GI FIGHTINGG
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51471 Posts
July 25 2007 17:36 GMT
#13
gogo ra and fantasy!
Commentator
Red_Dragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Croatia2862 Posts
July 25 2007 17:39 GMT
#14
I hope Ra will qualify, don`t care much about other players.

GO GO Ra
Climbing walls of an endless circle
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 17:39 GMT
#15
I think Mania will rape child but that could just be me wishing. I love Mania's style in reps.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
July 25 2007 17:40 GMT
#16
Nal_rA <Monty Hall> by.fantasy - GAME 1

Ra WHITE at 11
Fantasy BLUE at 5
[NA] Tyrio.486 / Ahsh
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 17:42 GMT
#17
montyhall

ra at 11

fantasy at 5
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 17:42 GMT
#18
mmm, fantasy with an uncanny resemblance to boxer with those glasses on :O:O
Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
July 25 2007 17:43 GMT
#19
Ug, stream is extraordinarily laggy =/

Ra pylons at his top lane mineral block, hops probe and then 14 nexus at the natural. Follows up with a gateway at his nat.

Fantasy goes rax-gas, then hops a scv up the bottem lane to scout.
[NA] Tyrio.486 / Ahsh
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 17:43 GMT
#20
ra builds pylon at the right wall, and it looks like he's going to 14 nexus somewhere.

fantasy goes with a standard opening.
Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
July 25 2007 17:44 GMT
#21
Ra's nexus finishes, but his min block hasn't been mined away yet.

Fantasy depot hops a scv into Ra's main. A zealot starts to chase it around. A nice trapping move with Ra's probe almost kills it, but it manages to escape.

Fantasy starts another CC near his center lane min block. Rax is scouting.
[NA] Tyrio.486 / Ahsh
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 17:44 GMT
#22
ra with 14 nexus in the right nat. proceeds to scout down that lane, and also warps a gateway at his nat using the same first pylon.



mining away the wall with... i think 2 probes.

ra pushes a probe into fantasy's main using 2 probes, dies to rines.
Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
July 25 2007 17:45 GMT
#23
Ra has 2 gateways and a goon range getting core. Fantasy has a factory with addon. Fantasy's first tank is out.

Fantasy being greedy, starts a SECOND CC at his bottem lane mineral block. Fantasy scouts Ra's expo, 2 goon shoot the scv down.

[NA] Tyrio.486 / Ahsh
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 17:46 GMT
#24
core going up, ra took a decent look around fantasy's main, so he knows that nothing too fishy is going on.

fantasy pushes a scv into the right lane using a depot -> cancel.

ra mines out the right mineral wall, the opening is so narrow b/c pylon is choking it down even more.
fantasy almost loses his scouting scv as a probe and zeal trap it at the mineral wall.

survives with red hp and sees ra's build.

fantasy building cc inside main at the center wall.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 17:47:49
July 25 2007 17:46 GMT
#25
Not really greedy its been sorta standing on this map tvp actually Think of it as how p used to play vs a fast cc of terran. Double expoing to make up for the earlier T expo, but in reverse.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 17:47 GMT
#26
ra now warps in the 2nd gate.

fantasy with a scv hiding behind the wall at ra's nat.

O____O fantasy 3rd cc already, at the left wall, off of only 1 factory and addon.
Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
July 25 2007 17:47 GMT
#27
Ra finishes a robo facility, getting an observatory. Fantasy finishes an academy.

Fantasy mines away his center mineral block, lands his new CC there. He has a couple tanks for defense.

RA GOING QUICK CARRIERS. Two stargates and a fleet beacon!

Fantasy finishes the expo at his bottem lane as well. Ra scouts.
[NA] Tyrio.486 / Ahsh
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 17:47 GMT
#28
ra makes a pylon at the left wall, then pushes a probe into the left nat (using 2 probe push).

STARGATE
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 17:48 GMT
#29
ra sends a probe down teh left lane, he'll see the cc being made there.

observatory up. acad up for fantasy.

ra loses a probe he had at fantasy's center nat, fantasy floats cc into center nat, he's mining out the left wall atm.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 17:48 GMT
#30
Quick carriers should work great vs fantasy's double cc strat. It will probably take a long time for him to scout the stargates and hes going to just turtle.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 17:49 GMT
#31
as the stargate finishes, ra warps a 2nd stargate and a beacon as well.

armory being made for fantasy now.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 17:50 GMT
#32
ra with an obs in fantasy's main, sees that he's only on 3 fat 1 addon.

ra warps a nexus at the 2nd right lane expo.
Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
July 25 2007 17:50 GMT
#33
Fantasy up to 3 factories now. Ra warping a nexus at 1 in the top lane.

Fantasy walling his expoes with supply depots and supporting with tanks.

Ra getting more gateways, to 4 now. Fantasy getting more factories, to about 5-6.

Fantasy moving into the top lane with a BIG army. Lots of gollytank and scv backup moving out.

Ra brings his carriers (2) to attack Fantasy's center base as the holds off Fantasy with his ground army.
[NA] Tyrio.486 / Ahsh
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 17:51 GMT
#34
ra adding another gate, he sends some goon zeal down the right lane towards fantasy's right nat, he kills some scvs mining out the right wall.

ra going up to 4 gates. fantasy brings his tanks over to shoo away the goons.

first 2 carriesr out.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 17:51 GMT
#35
Did fantasy scout the carriers or was it just a feeling to start massing gols so early?
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 17:51 GMT
#36
fantasy going up to 5 facts, he's beginning to make goliaths now, goli range upgrading as well.
Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
July 25 2007 17:52 GMT
#37
With a nice attack combination using his goons and carriers, Ra is able to beat back Fantasy's push.

Ra in Fantasy's main now, goons fand carriers firing at the defending scvs.

Fantasy GGs out when he can't muster any defense.

Ra > Fantasy @ Monty Hall
Ra to winners, Fantasy to losers.
[NA] Tyrio.486 / Ahsh
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 17:52 GMT
#38
Ra completely outclassed fantasy, the skill difference was so apparent.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 17:52 GMT
#39
the two carriers are heading down teh center lane, fantasy with nothing there to defend.

fantasy moves into the right lane with his army and makes ra back off his ground army.

ra moving his carriers to the right lane, picks off a rallied tank.

ra sandwiching what remainds of fantasy's army with goons from above and carriers from below. as ra kinda sends carriesr into a goli group, one of his carriers gets down to yellow hp.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9022 Posts
July 25 2007 17:53 GMT
#40
lol ez rape
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 17:53 GMT
#41
ra sendsing some zeals down, no speed yet.

ra inside fantasy's main, kills the few goliaths that are there and whatever happns to pop out of hte facts.

gg from fantasy.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 25 2007 17:53 GMT
#42
stupid fantasy
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
July 25 2007 17:56 GMT
#43
rA's builds are awesome. His micro was bad, but he still won easily.

It also helped that Fantasy completely misjudged the situation.^^
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 17:56 GMT
#44
On July 26 2007 02:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
stupid fantasy


ya

i wanted to see his macro in action.
_Grazze_
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
834 Posts
July 25 2007 17:59 GMT
#45
can anyone give a non-buffering stream? sc2 is killing me
zurg
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1923 Posts
July 25 2007 18:01 GMT
#46
On July 26 2007 02:59 _Grazze_ wrote:
can anyone give a non-buffering stream? sc2 is killing me

gomplayer
http://yaoyuan.com/live.php
우리는 대-한민국입니다
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:03 GMT
#47
oh hey gom player stream works for me now :O
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:04 GMT
#48
tyrio you're using gom right? is the top button (red) high Quality and the lower button (orange) lower quality?
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:09 GMT
#49
monty hall

mania at 11
child at 5
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 18:10 GMT
#50
Common mania...
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:11 GMT
#51
I believe so, haji.

though, not being able to read korean, I am not sure XD

child busy looking like GI
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:11 GMT
#52
child does not use the ever-so-popular hatch at terran nat.

instead he hatches at his own center nat, while mania goes double command at the bottom lane.

scouted by drone
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:12 GMT
#53
child pushes a drone into the left lane first to go scout, then another into the center lane to expand there. 12 hatch at center nat.

mania pushes two scv into the left lane, one builds cc and the other fends off a drone that comes up the left lane.

another scv goes down teh center lane, probably wary of the Silver Build, sees child's 12 hatch.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:12 GMT
#54
three hatch before pool, third hatch placed behind center min line

scout drone has got the scv building the cc down to about 30 hp

repaiiir
gas making for child
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:13 GMT
#55
mania repairsing the scv builings his cc in left nat, drone still running around and harassing... now it leaves and goes back.

cc doen for mania, and the mineral wall is opened with perfect timing. 1 rax so far for him.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:13 GMT
#56
child gets his first few lings now, chasing around mania's scouting scv.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:14 GMT
#57
mania mines out his bottom mineral block

both players contenting themselves with scouting and macroing

two lins chasing around scout scv, red hp

six marines for mania guarding south expo
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:14 GMT
#58
oO i missed the fact that it was 3 hatch b4 pool .

lair startss

mania mining away the center mineral wall with 1 scv.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:14 GMT
#59
child gettin evo and second gas

second barracks and acad going up
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:15 GMT
#60
child starts an evo at the 3rd hatch.

ebay and acad up for mania, he's adding raxes, going up to 3 i think.

comsats as well.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:15 GMT
#61
annnnnd I am going to shower an come back for the ra game. ta. thanks to haji for reporting.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:16 GMT
#62
oO wow how did child get a drone through into mania's main...

factory going up for mania, child with hydra den done, and spire almost done as well.

mania mines out the center mineral line. kills child's OL above cliff. Mania mining out the right mineral line as well.

factory lifts and a starport is made below it.

child expanding to his right nat
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:17 GMT
#63
mania sends his infantry to child's center nat, firing at the extractor from ouside the sunken range.

child with lurkers, they burrow in front of the sunks, 2-3 rines die before mania runs them back.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:18 GMT
#64
mania getting a bunker at his left nat. going up to 5 rax, he has fact addon and sci facility going.

first tank is already out.

2 lurekrs come to the right mineral wall, mania was buliding a depot there but has to cancel.

child getting hive as well as some scourge, he's mining 3 gasses.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:19 GMT
#65
child getting more lurkers, he has hive now, starts defiler mound.

mania moving down the center with tanks and infantry as well as 1 vessle.

child with 2 scourge, OMG MANIA LOSES 1st VESSLE
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:19 GMT
#66
child adding sunks as he comes under shiege by mania, mania decides to just kill the lurks since he's not in sunk range, child loses and few and he has to pull back.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:20 GMT
#67
child loses the extractor at his cneter nat.

he's expanding to the 2nd right lane expo.
qutie a few lings out now for child, rallied over to the center nat.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:21 GMT
#68
looks like child waiting for defiler.

MANIA DROPS CHILD"S RIGHT NAT.

child runs his cracks over, mania picks up the units into dropship, but then scourge killthe ships.

mania moves forward, starts sieging into child's lurks. but child gets his defiler just in time, swarm lurker pushes mania back.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:22 GMT
#69
mania expanding to the center nat and the 2nd expo in left lane.
child loses 6 lings and a defiler in the left lane to some mnm.

child's ultra cavern done at the right nat.
child's 2nd right lane expo shoudl be done.

child loses the center nat as mania presses forward with the ball
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 18:23 GMT
#70
LMAO at the ling/marine movements there.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:23 GMT
#71
child pushes mania back agina with lurker ling swarm, child forgot to pull back the lings or something, as he loes 12 unnecessarily to the mnm.

mania loses a stray vessle in the right lane (towards hisnat)
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 18:23 GMT
#72
Mania not dissappointing me so far Child playing like shit though to be honest...
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:24 GMT
#73
mania's attack his been pushed back to around the middle of the center lane.

mania was rallying 10 rines down teh left lane, child had 3 lurks there, mania mangaes to spread them out, killing 2/3 of the lurks before losing his last infantry.

mania defends a small attack on hsi 2nd base in the left lane.
mania drops on child's cliff at 2nd right lane expo, he dropped 1 tank 3 rine 1 med i think.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:25 GMT
#74
child had reclained the cneter nat, mania goes forward again.
child delays with swarm ultra, but mania just irradiates all of them.

however, as a new group of ultras come, mania irradiates them despite the cows being right on top of his infantry.

he loses most of his 2 groups of mnm, but does kill 5 ultras.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:25 GMT
#75
child really likes to suicide ultras by not bringing lings along...
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:26 GMT
#76
mania goes into the center nat again, this time unopposed.

ERASERR IN MAINNNNN CHILD SUX AT AWARENESS, LIKE 10 DRONES DIE.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:27 GMT
#77
mania expanding to the right nat.
child loses his 2nd expansion in the right lane, as well as his center nat (i think)

he's down to 2 bases.

mania is on... 2 mining bases i think? i think his main and left nat are out.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:28 GMT
#78
mania sends 4 vults downt eh left lane and begins takign down teh left nat of child.

swarm lings buys some time for child but the defiler dies to irrad.

2 dropships head to child's right nat and drop, as mania sends his main army into child's min.

domination.

child gg's and mania makes his way to winner's finals
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 18:29:43
July 25 2007 18:28 GMT
#79
Childs multitask is sooo lacking. But I like how good it makes mania look
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
July 25 2007 18:30 GMT
#80
Child just cannot amount to anything, ever.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 18:33:25
July 25 2007 18:32 GMT
#81
The model in the samsung printer commercial is rediculously hot to me, even though shes all covered up by clothes. Just thought I'd share. Anyone (koreans?) know who she is?
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 25 2007 18:33 GMT
#82
Hurry and Die please, I missed the first game of Ra.
I wanna him hurry up and get his 2-0 so I can sleep.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Da_PlayerX
Profile Joined January 2006
Bulgaria1304 Posts
July 25 2007 18:34 GMT
#83
On July 26 2007 03:32 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
The model in the samsung printer commercial is rediculously hot to me, even though shes all covered up by clothes. Just thought I'd share. Anyone (koreans?) know who she is?
imagine how hot will be if you see her naked .... but i guess u already did that
tvt msg me anytime
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 25 2007 18:35 GMT
#84
wth is the chic doing with the lightening ball......
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
July 25 2007 18:35 GMT
#85
Thanks for reports guys.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:35 GMT
#86
Let's go NALRA
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 18:37:00
July 25 2007 18:36 GMT
#87
I claim that some (even good looking) women look better with cloths on rather than off...

feel free to disagree
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 18:37:36
July 25 2007 18:37 GMT
#88
lol LR has 8000 posts, and just a few months ago you were at like 2500

<3
Da_PlayerX
Profile Joined January 2006
Bulgaria1304 Posts
July 25 2007 18:37 GMT
#89
On July 26 2007 03:36 thedeadhaji wrote:
I claim that some (even good looking) women look better with cloths on rather than off...

feel free to disagree
yeah but with only a few clothes
tvt msg me anytime
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:38 GMT
#90
On July 26 2007 03:37 Da_PlayerX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 03:36 thedeadhaji wrote:
I claim that some (even good looking) women look better with cloths on rather than off...

feel free to disagree
yeah but with only a few clothes


nono i even mean fully clothed :O:O
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:40 GMT
#91
python.

ra at 1
mania at 3

hmm close positions.
Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
July 25 2007 18:40 GMT
#92
Nal_rA <Python> TheManiaMST - GAME 3, Winner's Match

Ra WHITE at 1
Mania PURPLE at 2

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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:40 GMT
#93
ra top position

mania right position
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:42 GMT
#94
You'll NEVER WALK ALONE.

rA makes his gate in base, above his ramp

mania raxes beside his minerals
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Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:42 GMT
#95
ra goes 10 gate near his ramp, mania goes for a standard rax gas, with rax a bit below the cc.

ra scouts the wrong way, as he goes to 8 first.
core starts next to ra's gas.
Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
July 25 2007 18:42 GMT
#96
Ra gates on 10, scouts the wrong way to 8.

Mania rax on 10, no wallin.

Ra gets gas. Mania scouts the right way to his base.

Ra starts his core and Mania gets his gas.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:43 GMT
#97
both players construct their gas building after basic military building

rA scouts incorrectly twice

Mania scouts later, but correctly -_-;

rA gets his cybernetics core

some guy and his kid in audience.
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4119 Posts
July 25 2007 18:43 GMT
#98
is it me or 50% of the python games are on these positons
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:43 GMT
#99
mania finds ra on teh first try.
mania factory after 1 marine.

ra's probe arrives and cant see shite b/c of rine.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:43 GMT
#100
no rines being made by mania, O_O 2 fact.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:44 GMT
#101
they start early with making bw fans.

fac above ramp

two facs above ramp!

rA's scout probe denied entry

dragoon chasing scv

SCOUTS ROBO LOL
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Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:44 GMT
#102
ra goes 1 gate robo, and M2, no most games are not close positions on python.
Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
July 25 2007 18:44 GMT
#103
Commentators are biased, they stick to Ra's base for like 2 minutes and only flash Mania's >_>

Mania getting two factories, blocks his ramp with a scv to stop Ra's probe.

Ra getting a robo facility. Probably reavers, Ra isn't getting goon range. Mania scouts the facility.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:44 GMT
#104
2 goons come shuffling forward for ra.
mania has 4 rines now, 2 fact 2 addon. (vults?)
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:44 GMT
#105
rA is so unlucky today

two dragoons headed out

so 1gate robo vs 2fac

2 shops

2 goon vs 4 marine/scv now

rA not pressing the issue
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Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:44 GMT
#106
2 goons approach the ramp, mania places a scv in front of the 4 rines.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:45 GMT
#107
rA puts the tank to 1/2 hp

reaabooo

the barracks scouts reaver

ra please don't fuck up reaver control

three tank four marine push

ahhh scary
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Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
July 25 2007 18:45 GMT
#108
Ra moving out with 2 goons. Mania has 4 marines to defend. Mania addoning to two factories. First tank rolls of the line.

Ra with 3 goons at Mania's nat. Mania moves out a bit, gets his tank shot before retreating.

Robo support finished for Ra, shuttle loads something, but not a reaver.

Ra warps a nexus at his nat.
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 25 2007 18:46 GMT
#109
On July 26 2007 03:44 Last Romantic wrote:
rA is so unlucky today


Why?
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:46 GMT
#110
mania moves forward with 4 rine 1 tank, but ra with 3 goons, he goes straight for the tank, the 2nd volley may have killed the tank but hte tank JUST goes above the ramp and some shots miss.

3 tanks out now for mania.

mania knows that the reaver is coming, his rax saw the tech.

rax sees the shuttle coming, mania pulls his 4 rine 3 tanks into the main chasing the shuttle around
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:46 GMT
#111
dude there are like five tanks

marines chase shuttle

rA isn't goint o drop into that

okebay making
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:46 GMT
#112
mania makes an ebay, then a cc near the ramp.

ra manages to get a long-range scarab to kill 2/4 of the rines
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:47 GMT
#113
first rA's scout goes wrong way twice

then rA's dragoon acts up on him and doesn't shoot the last shot against scv scout, so his robo gets scouted

now scarab AI is being a fickle mistress
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:47 GMT
#114
ra pinning down mania to his spot, expanding to the nat.

1 turret up for mania with a tank next to it.

obs is in mania's main as well.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:47 GMT
#115
siege finished, second command making. turrets going up
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Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
July 25 2007 18:47 GMT
#116
Ra's shuttle moves into Mania's base, but he has 4 marines and 3 tanks chasing after the shuttle. Ra does a quick drop, kills a marine and a tank.

Mania setting up turrets.

My stream starts slideshowing =/

Mania has siege now, Ra will be hardpressed to do damage.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:48 GMT
#117
ra maynards to his nat.

mania floating cc into his nat, turret makign below his ramp with a tank sieged up.
mania will start ming about 15 seconds after ra.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 18:48:32
July 25 2007 18:48 GMT
#118
On July 26 2007 03:34 Da_PlayerX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 03:32 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
The model in the samsung printer commercial is rediculously hot to me, even though shes all covered up by clothes. Just thought I'd share. Anyone (koreans?) know who she is?
imagine how hot will be if you see her naked .... but i guess u already did that

No Which is why I must find out what her name is To get on topic...lets go Mania! Although I want ra to advance more I'm sure he can advance even if he loses this game Thats how much faith I have.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:48 GMT
#119
did reaver just die to tank fire at mania's nat?
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:48 GMT
#120
mania making pure tanks so far, no vults.

ra with about 8 goons outside mania's nat.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
July 25 2007 18:48 GMT
#121
It's strange, every game I've been seeing of rA using reavers live he always seems to have terrible, terrible luck with the scarab AI. Ah well, I hope he overcomes it.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:49 GMT
#122
back.

ra take top left gas

observer dies needlessly to turret

lots of siegetanks defending mania's nat, he should be pretty safe

another reaver out
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:49 GMT
#123
ra loses his 1st obs to turret, 2nd reaver is out and picked up by shuttle.

mania unsieges his tanks and is rearranging? vults out.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:50 GMT
#124
mania pushign forward, reaver is dropped on the tanks, 3 tanks go POOM, goons overwhelm mania's setup.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:50 GMT
#125
RA's control is AMAZING

he killed big siegetank army with about equal number of goons, as well as a reaver in shuttle
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:50 GMT
#126
mania secapse sthe remaining tanks, (like 3)

he sends 3 vults up the map into ra's nat, kilsl maybe 2 probes as they run, mines up the ramp so temporarily ra can't mine from nat.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:51 GMT
#127
ra with a 3rd reaver now, mania off of 4 facts.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:51 GMT
#128
vulture sneak seems to have done some damage to ra's econ

clears vults and mines, re-maynards

rA inexplicably drops on low ground
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 18:52:25
July 25 2007 18:51 GMT
#129
Push carefully mania or Ill kill you...GOD DAMN YOU MANIA YOU FUCKIN MORON lol although that was sexy as hell by ra. Ra in te clear advantage now...can't see mania coming back. His push was absoulutely raped.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:51 GMT
#130
ra drops a goon and a probe into the 1 island.
ra then drops reaver into mania's main, kils a turret and then picks it back up as mania comes back with units.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:52 GMT
#131
ra making a wall of pylons at his nat so that his probes cant get raped.
ra starts nexus at 1 island.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:52 GMT
#132
rA getting speedlots

he also gets top right island expo

another vulture sneak denied by pretty pylon wall and goons
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:52 GMT
#133
mania goes into ra's nat with 3 vults, the above mentioned pylon wall prevents them from doing anything
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:53 GMT
#134
6 factories now for mania, ra pressures the front, and ra simultaneously does a 2 zeal 1 reaver dop in teh main, mania has to pull back units yet again to defend.

a few scvs and a tnak die
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:53 GMT
#135
sacrifice 2 zeals to kill a handful of scvs and a turret

STARGATEU

armory, researching.

mania preparin to push out
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:53 GMT
#136
mania buidls cc in hismain to flat to the min only. ra with a ton of goons though
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 25 2007 18:53 GMT
#137
Ra is walking a very thin line atm.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 18:54 GMT
#138
Ballsy move by ra expanding to the top right island expo. If t scouts it and starts drop ship he can abuse this...but I doubt he will.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:54 GMT
#139
mania making a slow crwal towards teh min only. ra roudning up his units, zeals have speed now,

2 stargates and fleet beacon for ra.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:54 GMT
#140
rA has so many dragoons Oo

two reavs now

Mania is trying to take the min only between his base and ra's

slowly floating it over, with slowpush underneath
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:55 GMT
#141
ra comign again with shuttle, wow it is outside mania's turret range lol.

2 reaver dropped, they kill 1 turret and 1 scv, he loses 1 reaver to a tank, scvs do escape while scarabs were comfused.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:55 GMT
#142
rA needlessly loses a reaver .. BOTH REAVERS AND SHUTTLE WTF

ugly control there

only kills two scvs

the min only cc landed

rA doesn't challenge it yet
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:56 GMT
#143
mania finishes starport.

hmm mania unsieges his tanks and is moving away from his main cliff.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:56 GMT
#144
mania comes with 2 golis and kills the shuttle, it looked like ra tried to move shuttle away adn u click on teh shuttle and missed, considering teh way the shuttle spun around
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:57 GMT
#145
ra has mined out his main, he is expanding to the 11 expo, mania's vult sees.

mania begins to tornado forward, ra is caught not paying full attention, zeals takign heavy fire from vults before they can get inside the tanks.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 18:57 GMT
#146
Gosu shuttle micro ra -_- He misclicks shuttle dancing it just in range of goliaths as it gets shot down with a reaver in it.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:57 GMT
#147
tarchives making.

rA gets top left multi

rA botches up his control and sends groups piecemeal
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:58 GMT
#148
ra just has so much shit though, he does do pretty good damage to the tanks despite the initail slip up. however, he does come out behind, mania begins to lay siege on ra's nat, 3 goons fire at the 2 carriers, all golis die now, tanks have to unisege and head back.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:58 GMT
#149
WTF PROBES??

rA is playing very inexplicably today
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 18:58 GMT
#150
Moment of truth...can mania get to ras nat before carrier power kicks in!?
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:58 GMT
#151
mania sent 1 tank to the 11 expo, and it's firing at the nexus. ra brings his carries over to kill that off.

mania making many golis, he has expanded tot he 5 expo
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 25 2007 18:58 GMT
#152
Ahaahahaha, how the fuck did Ra live?
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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 25 2007 18:59 GMT
#153
bad attak :X
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 18:59 GMT
#154
mania moves forward with a very goliath heavy army, he snipes off 1 carrier, backs off with ra comes with his ground force, moves back forward when teh carriers come and does some mvoing shot, but then backs off yet agian when teh gorund army catches up.

carriers attacking mania's min only, but meanwhile mania has pushed into ra's nat with a goli tank army, only 2 tanks and heavy on golis.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 18:59 GMT
#155
ugh ra

rA loses a carrier and almost another one for about 12 golis

now he's raping some scvs at mania's min only

mania trying to push ra's nat

very successful in this endeavor even though ra ha dthe forces to stop
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:00 GMT
#156
mani has like no turrets, as ra starts killing stuff in mania's main.

ra makign dts to combat mania's attack.

observer sees mania's expo at 5. ra loses his nat nexus, mania now sends his units over to the 11 expo.

mania chasing ra's carriers with goliaths inside his main.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 19:01:17
July 25 2007 19:00 GMT
#157
Ya ....Mania's failure to use mines properly cost him huge On the other hand, can you guys see why i like him?
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:00 GMT
#158
ra loses teh 11 expo, he's on 1 mining base.
ra taking out mania's min only cc, mania lifts it fof but cc dies.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 19:01 GMT
#159
starports for cloak wraith building at bottom right
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Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:01 GMT
#160
mania returns to ra's nat after he took down the 11 expo. he starts 2 starports at the 5 expo.

ra successful at pushign back the attack with some dts.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:02 GMT
#161
ra kills mania's ebay, mani places his goliaths inside his main to protect hsi buidlings.

mani has expanded to the 6 main!
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 19:02 GMT
#162
P cannot play 2 base against 4 wtf
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:02 GMT
#163
ra with 5-6 carriers, but his stars arent making more atm.

ra sends 2 dts to the 11 expo to kill off anythign that was there, dts now heading to the 6 main.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:03 GMT
#164
dts begin to slash at the scvs mining at 6 main expo, mania gives it a scan to see how many were there, sending some of his army down there now.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:04 GMT
#165
mania rallying his wraiths to the 5 expo, but ra does have a obs there and he may notice the wraiths, not sure if it's within vision.

mania clears the dts from 6 main.

ra with many ht in his main he definietly knows that the wraitsh are there?

ra for some reason sends his carreis acrsos the middl eo the map, NO OBSERVERSSS
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:04 GMT
#166
mania very close by with his wraiths, ra has ONE osb with his carries.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:04 GMT
#167
Looks REALLY good for mania
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 19:05 GMT
#168
MY GOD That was cloes

rA moves to rendezvous with observer just has cloakwraith pass by him

ok never mind he loses all his carrs to wraiths

GG

fuck
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:05 GMT
#169
mania cloaks, 1 carrier down, scan goes off, 2 carries down, 1 carrier left, ra ggs.

mania wins and makes his debut in the major leagues
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42864 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 19:06:54
July 25 2007 19:05 GMT
#170
I don't want to believe that rA sucks, I really don't. But somewhere between the 1000 minerals of protoss hardware getting a total kills of a single missile turret (tank range > reaver range anyone (no worries, we'll just lift the other one back up and fly over a turret)), the stacked probe vs tank attack (so tanks do splash damage?!?!) and the no interceptors vs goliath trick (carrier didn't last long) I'm having my doubts. So please, tell me rA. What's up?
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:05 GMT
#171
congrats to mania, I think he really deserved this after teh way he played this game.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 25 2007 19:05 GMT
#172
rA SCOUTED the wraiths with an obs

and didn\'t think to put obs with his carr fleet

he had like six or seven obs total around the map -_-;
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Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
July 25 2007 19:05 GMT
#173
So....rA can still redeem himself, yes?
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:06 GMT
#174
BWAHAHAHA man I'm good luck Ra played uncharacteristically bad....but props to you mania.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
July 25 2007 19:07 GMT
#175
He played well early game, and then completely forgot to expand late game...
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:07 GMT
#176
i feel like the most significant part of that game was the 2nd(?) pusht aht mania made, where ra didnt react fast enough, and mania got his vults right in front of ra's zealot army, blocking the path to the tanks and also taking out a bunch of them before the zeals could start doing anything.

that delay of maybe 2 seconds made him lose the battle, and then that lead to losing his nat, which lead to losing his 11 expo, and downhill from there.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:08 GMT
#177
If I liquibetted I'm sure I would've been the only one to pick mania winning his games 2-0
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
July 25 2007 19:09 GMT
#178
On July 26 2007 04:08 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
If I liquibetted I'm sure I would've been the only one to pick mania winning his games 2-0


But hindsight is always 20/20 (:
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:09 GMT
#179
On July 26 2007 04:05 Daranee wrote:
So....rA can still redeem himself, yes?

Yes, and given his competition, most likely will.
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:10 GMT
#180
On July 26 2007 04:09 Daranee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 04:08 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
If I liquibetted I'm sure I would've been the only one to pick mania winning his games 2-0


But hindsight is always 20/20 (:

Yes but I was clearly rooting for mania from the beggining
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HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
July 25 2007 19:10 GMT
#181
Ugh, that was terrible to watch as a rA fan.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:11 GMT
#182
Ok I admit it, I payed Ra to lose.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:11 GMT
#183
On July 26 2007 04:09 Daranee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 04:08 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
If I liquibetted I'm sure I would've been the only one to pick mania winning his games 2-0


But hindsight is always 20/20 (:


I voted

fantasy > ra
mania > child

and mania/fantasy advancing. :O

so i'm correct on the mania votes i guess.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 25 2007 19:12 GMT
#184
On July 26 2007 04:07 thedeadhaji wrote:
i feel like the most significant part of that game was the 2nd(?) pusht aht mania made, where ra didnt react fast enough, and mania got his vults right in front of ra's zealot army, blocking the path to the tanks and also taking out a bunch of them before the zeals could start doing anything.

that delay of maybe 2 seconds made him lose the battle, and then that lead to losing his nat, which lead to losing his 11 expo, and downhill from there.


How about the shuttle and 2 reavers that shouldn't have died. If it lives, it makes it hard for the terran to leave his base due to guerilla shuttle play. Instead, Ra trades his stall, invaluable in cost, for 3 scvs before deciding to shuttle dance like a parapelegic and loses it to a few goliaths.

It's ok, I love Ra. It's so easy to believe in Ra. ~_~ I hope Child wins so they can play on Desperado. I'd rather avoid T ~_~
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Grizmor
Profile Joined July 2007
United States28 Posts
July 25 2007 19:12 GMT
#185
Nal_Ra is so bad at PvT now its unbelievable. Every game of his the same. He gets the early advantage and I begin to think maybe the old Ra is back, but then he squanders his advantage through poor play and predictably techs to carriers, at which point he lets the Terran player walk all over him.

He needs to completely re-evaluate his PvT and stop relying on his tech to carriers so frickin' much. He has no defense versus any decent terran push, its sad. It seems has no confidence in the ground battle vs Terran, even when he convincingly wins the first major ground clash, he backs off and lets the Terran regroup. He needs to work on this area of his game if he wants to stop this horrible slump of his.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 25 2007 19:13 GMT
#186
What?
Ra is in a slump now? ???
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
July 25 2007 19:13 GMT
#187
rA won't lose to a rookie Terran no matter the map.^^
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 19:16:29
July 25 2007 19:15 GMT
#188
Ra needs to stop depending on reavers...they really don't ever work out well for him. If he would start simply playing straight up I think hed be a lot more successful. And you guys also failed to mention Ras HUGE mistake of over committing to carriers on really close spots. Going 3 star gate carriers when you barely have an advantage,if any, is a huge mistake when youre 12/3 on python.
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
July 25 2007 19:16 GMT
#189
What are you talking about? Maybe the whole world's turned upside down in the 4 months I haven't been following progaming, but rA's reavers have always been very, very good.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:17 GMT
#190
On July 26 2007 04:13 Orome wrote:
rA won\'t lose to a rookie Terran no matter the map.^^

Orome, what do you think Mania is?
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 25 2007 19:17 GMT
#191
12/3 on Python isn't fuckin 12/3 on LT. The push isn't flash blitzkrieg in your face.

Carriers make sense because if Ra had held and not lost Reavers all day, He would be able to sit at home and nail away at the mineral natural which is what most T's get since it is strategically towards the P and a good recon point on the map.

Why wouldn't you go Reavers 12/3?
I thought Ra's build was ok, he just really didn't play the best shuttle play that game.
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:18 GMT
#192
On July 26 2007 04:16 Orome wrote:
What are you talking about? Maybe the whole world's turned upside down in the 4 months I haven't been following progaming, but rA's reavers have always been very, very good.

Umm...ya actually it has Hes been sucking TvP and his reavers have been getting owned by bad scarab ai.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:19 GMT
#193
reaver is very standard in python I feel.

anyways, game starting
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:19 GMT
#194
child at 8
fantasy at 3.

child scouts to 6 first
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:20 GMT
#195
fantasy with 10 rax near his ramp, chidl 12 hatch at nat.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:20 GMT
#196
mmm, this is looking like child is going to do 3 hatch before pool again?
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 25 2007 19:21 GMT
#197
HE owned with ravers once in that game. Totally owned that push, but yeah his ravers were :[ His units were placed really poorly when Mania/Memory went to attack though. Zealots vs vults and goons vs tanks? :X
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:21 GMT
#198
child goes out and sends drone to 3.
oh okay child did do 12 pool after hatch.

drone scout repelled by rine that comes out.

fantasy cc at nat after 1 marine??!?!
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:21 GMT
#199
child 3rd hatch at ramp, man what a macro terran fantasy is :O
PuertoRican
Profile Joined April 2004
United States5709 Posts
July 25 2007 19:22 GMT
#200
On July 26 2007 04:13 SuperJongMan wrote:
What?
Ra is in a slump now? ???


Ra is 2-7 in his last 9 pvt's.
Still has 1 more game to go, I won't be surprised if he makes it 2-8.
If anyone orders any merlot Im leaving. I am NOT drinking any fucking merlot.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:22 GMT
#201
fantasy budliing bunker belwo his ramp, as 6 lings run towards the nat.

nat cc finsihes, and fantasy maynards with perfect timing.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:23 GMT
#202
btw child's lair is morhphing at his nat.

scv scout reaches child's main, sees the lair done.
spire for child.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:24 GMT
#203
fantasy starts ebay after 1 rax?? quick +1 i guess?
lair starts for child, as fantasy adds 2nd rax and acad.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:24 GMT
#204
On July 26 2007 04:21 nemY wrote:
HE owned with ravers once in that game. Totally owned that push, but yeah his ravers were :[ His units were placed really poorly when Mania/Memory went to attack though. Zealots vs vults and goons vs tanks? :X

You can blame that on mania not expecting Ra to make another reaver so soon and having horrible tank position because of it though.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:24 GMT
#205
ebay done, acad done, comsats going up, and +1 beign researched.

1 ling is assinged to take care of fantasy's scouting scv.
fantasy still no meds out.

child makes 1 sunk
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:24 GMT
#206
Ouch...huge overlord kill from fantasy...and with 1 marine cc, hes probably going to cruise this game.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:25 GMT
#207
child expanding to the 11 expo, fantasy moves out a bit and kilsl af ew lings.

wtf a moth is circling around wildinly in my room.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:25 GMT
#208
fantasy going up to 4 rax, mtuas out from child.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:26 GMT
#209
mutas go straight towards fantasy's nat, 3 turrets going up at the south edge of the min lin ethere, where child goes to.

2 turrets at the raxes, 2 at the main minline.

child with not horribel muta micro, but uninspiring nonetheless.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 25 2007 19:27 GMT
#210
GJ Child
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Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:27 GMT
#211
fantasy mvoing his mnm towards 11, but b/c child shows some pretty nice muta control, he is forced to bring back his mnm.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:28 GMT
#212
child actually doing a very solid job at pinning fantasy to his base with his mutas, picking off a good number of rines an dturrets.... and just as i say that, he lapses in control and loses like 3 mutas at once.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 19:29:42
July 25 2007 19:28 GMT
#213
Huge mistake from fantasy...way too much faith in the 2 turrets by his rax...by the way he seeems to still be at 3 rax? Now starting 4th and starting sci fac.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:29 GMT
#214
anddddd child gets overzealous with his muta micro and loses liek 3 more, and now he's in deep shit.

2nd ebay going up, tanks out, queen's nest going up, fantasy grouping up his units at the middle.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:29 GMT
#215
sci facnlity is done and vessle is being made.

4 lrukers for child, we'll see what he can do with them.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:30 GMT
#216
fantasy being indecisive with his units, he was waiting for his vessle. once it's out, he is able to move safely with his ball w/o fear of lurkers, pushing back child's lurks, he has about 7
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:30 GMT
#217
hive starts for child, he is on 3 gas.
fantasy goin up to 7 rax.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:31 GMT
#218
ermmm did tantasy fuckign lose his vessle? he's using scan to push back lurkers now.

okay new vessle out, child with a lealthy number of lurker ling now.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:31 GMT
#219
Good lcuk stoping this child, youll need it
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Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:31 GMT
#220
mania pushign straight up to the 11 expo, child flanks from above the wide ramp and from the left, mnm are in this huge cluster.

all units other than vessle die, 3 lurkers left for child.

mania still on 2 base.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:32 GMT
#221
defiler mound up for child, mania has 1.5 groups of mnm, 2 vessle and 1 tank.

he has 1 dropship as well at his nat.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:32 GMT
#222
dropship moving to the 1 main where child was expanding to, hatch... DIES WTF YOU MORON
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 19:44:11
July 25 2007 19:33 GMT
#223
Wow that was really horrible fantasy....to clarify, ALL his marines were clumped and slaughtered in a few lurker volleys. He was so disorganized he didnt spread them at all.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:33 GMT
#224
CHILD YOU CANT EVEN CANCEL A HATCH THAT"S BEING FIRED AT FOR 10 SECONDS??
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:34 GMT
#225
same dropship is heading to child's main, it narrowly avoids child's scourge, the scourge kilthe ship after 5 units are droppe,d and lings fiinish the job.

child goes into fantasy's amry in teh middle of the map with lurker ling swarm, He is quite successful in teh attack, pushes fantasy back a bit.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:34 GMT
#226
err is child ... yea he's double expanding to the 5 expo and the 6 nat.
6 nat is done, a lurker burrows there.

nydus going up.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:35 GMT
#227
fantasy with 3 groups of mnm, 2 vessles and 5 tanks. child halts the progress with swarm lurker, army is about two screen away from the wide ramp towards 11 expo.
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
July 25 2007 19:35 GMT
#228
Wow. the same fantasy that Draco beat....is playing SO well
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:36 GMT
#229
child tries to go in with lurekr ling swarm, but the swarm just doesnt happen.

fantasy drops child's main agian, oh man FF on the defiler mound, it dies.

fantasy runs up the 11 expo ramp, uses a dmatrixed rine to outmicro the 2 lurkers and takes the expo down.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:36 GMT
#230
child with some ultras...

to borrow hotbid's words from orion yesterday: WHY.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:37 GMT
#231
This is pretty ugly...lol
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:37 GMT
#232
ultras getting irradiated, as there arent lings to support. ultras killa small attack ont eh 6 ant, but another small attack goes to 5 expo, and the main army kills off those ultras at 6.

5 expo is down, all the sudden child's once booming economy is reduced to jack shit.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:38 GMT
#233
On July 26 2007 04:35 Daranee wrote:
Wow. the same fantasy that Draco beat....is playing SO well

Are you serious? I hate to be negative but its more like a battle of who can play worse...
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:38 GMT
#234
mania had extablished the min only as well as the 1 main.

ultras attack the mi only, cc lifts.

rines guarding the ramp at 1 main, ultra was attacking it, not sure what happened to it? i guess it broke the ramp, mania sends his ramy up there.
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
July 25 2007 19:38 GMT
#235
TvZ is imba.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:38 GMT
#236
mania opting to use mmf instead of mnm, it's being very effective so far.

child has his ols at the 7 island i think.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 25 2007 19:39 GMT
#237
damn how could i have ever voted for this tard............ child is so dead
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:39 GMT
#238
2 dropship drop in child's main.

Fantasy is playing prety well towards the end of this game with good multitask and harass, but Child's absolute collapse is a much bigger factor this game.

I mean HE JUST FELL APART
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
July 25 2007 19:39 GMT
#239
Haji is it 2v1? Fantasy and mania against child?
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:40 GMT
#240
a 4x eraser in child's main, everythign is dying, for some reason he sint tying out, and now gg.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:40 GMT
#241
On July 26 2007 04:38 Organ wrote:
TvZ is imba.

Unless the Z is actually good, yes.
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
July 25 2007 19:40 GMT
#242
On July 26 2007 04:17 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 04:13 Orome wrote:
rA won\'t lose to a rookie Terran no matter the map.^^

Orome, what do you think Mania is?


He's CJ, that's different. :p
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:40 GMT
#243
yea... i knew i was getting the two names mixed up

i mean "mania" is so much easier to type than "fantasy"
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
July 25 2007 19:41 GMT
#244
On July 26 2007 04:40 thedeadhaji wrote:
yea... i knew i was getting the two names mixed up

i mean "mania" is so much easier to type than "fantasy"

What about typing "free" instead? All letters are in the same place here :p
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:41 GMT
#245
Child threw away countless units while at the same time barely utilizing defiliers. He failed to cast a single plague all game, then proceeded to throw away ultras like they were zerglings.
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Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
July 25 2007 19:42 GMT
#246
On July 26 2007 04:38 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 04:35 Daranee wrote:
Wow. the same fantasy that Draco beat....is playing SO well

Are you serious? I hate to be negative but its more like a battle of who can play worse...



His late game management and the amount of actions he's doing is what is really impressive. He controlled his large force very well. He maneurvered them across the map, while dropping and finishing off expos with his idle troops. His play really impressed me =T
zurg
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1923 Posts
July 25 2007 19:42 GMT
#247
wo "early" gg....lol
우리는 대-한민국입니다
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
July 25 2007 19:44 GMT
#248
On July 26 2007 04:40 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 04:38 Organ wrote:
TvZ is imba.

Unless the Z is actually good, yes.

Did you see the statistics from MSL prelims? TvZ was about 80-50, while ZvP 42-40 and PvT - 49-40. Horrible imbalance. And ZvP is considered to be the less balanced matchup.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:45 GMT
#249
seems liek fantasy ups his game when he's in the lead and has control, rather than when he is placed in a tough spot and needs that extra umph?

dunno it just kinda seemed that way from the difference in his play b/w the first half and 2nd half of that game.
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
July 25 2007 19:46 GMT
#250
So now Ra has to beat fantasy the 2nd time to make it to MSL.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:46 GMT
#251
On July 26 2007 04:44 Organ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 04:40 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On July 26 2007 04:38 Organ wrote:
TvZ is imba.

Unless the Z is actually good, yes.

Did you see the statistics from MSL prelims? TvZ was about 80-50, while ZvP 42-40 and PvT - 49-40. Horrible imbalance. And ZvP is considered to be the less balanced matchup.

There aren't many good zergs
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Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
July 25 2007 19:46 GMT
#252
On July 26 2007 04:45 thedeadhaji wrote:
seems liek fantasy ups his game when he's in the lead and has control, rather than when he is placed in a tough spot and needs that extra umph?

dunno it just kinda seemed that way from the difference in his play b/w the first half and 2nd half of that game.


Seconded. Hard to say though, the amount spectators have seen his play is pretty limited. Maybe it is just rookie nerves.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:46 GMT
#253
On July 26 2007 04:44 Organ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 04:40 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On July 26 2007 04:38 Organ wrote:
TvZ is imba.

Unless the Z is actually good, yes.

Did you see the statistics from MSL prelims? TvZ was about 80-50, while ZvP 42-40 and PvT - 49-40. Horrible imbalance. And ZvP is considered to be the less balanced matchup.


current maps are P favoring, pros are consistently saying this.
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
July 25 2007 19:48 GMT
#254
Cheese builds anyone?
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:48 GMT
#255
on desperado? only thing i can think of would be a fast gas dt drop.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:49 GMT
#256
which i feel like ra himself did and failed in last msl? (something liek proxying his templar tech at 6 expo)
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:50 GMT
#257
desperado.

ra at 5
fantasy at 11
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:50 GMT
#258
fantasy needs to learn to mine from teh most efficient positions
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
July 25 2007 19:51 GMT
#259
pp?
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:51 GMT
#260
On July 26 2007 04:42 Daranee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 04:38 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On July 26 2007 04:35 Daranee wrote:
Wow. the same fantasy that Draco beat....is playing SO well

Are you serious? I hate to be negative but its more like a battle of who can play worse...



His late game management and the amount of actions he's doing is what is really impressive. He controlled his large force very well. He maneurvered them across the map, while dropping and finishing off expos with his idle troops. His play really impressed me =T

Child is really good at making T's look good. Notice how mania seemed to effortlessly roll over him as well? Fantasys macro was strong though, i'll give you that. Consistant pump. And his "timing" vs ultras was good too, I suppose. But it had more to do with Child losing all his units before ultras came...then when ultras where out, tossing them at fantasy with little back up. Considering how far ahead child was after he completely destroyed fantasy's first ball of mnm/tank, he should have had a lot better mid/late game performance. I mean he had what 8+ lurkers after that fight? Maybe fantasy had a significant upgrade lead as I couldn't see child's upgrades, but even then, child completely failed to control fantasy's vessel count and get defliers into play effectively. When a zerg doesnt even take advantage of the power of plague even once you know something is wrong with his game management.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:51 GMT
#261
both palyers standard, and

Ra asks for pause
Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
July 25 2007 19:51 GMT
#262
RA HAS TO BLOW HIS NOSE?!
[NA] Tyrio.486 / Ahsh
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:52 GMT
#263
harrr exactly what i was thinking
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
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Last Edited: 2007-07-25 19:53:18
July 25 2007 19:53 GMT
#264
+1 Tyrio. hahaha

any korean care to translate what's going on?
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Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:53 GMT
#265
On July 26 2007 04:51 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 04:42 Daranee wrote:
On July 26 2007 04:38 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On July 26 2007 04:35 Daranee wrote:
Wow. the same fantasy that Draco beat....is playing SO well

Are you serious? I hate to be negative but its more like a battle of who can play worse...



His late game management and the amount of actions he's doing is what is really impressive. He controlled his large force very well. He maneurvered them across the map, while dropping and finishing off expos with his idle troops. His play really impressed me =T

Child is really good at making T's look good. Notice how mania seemed to effortlessly roll over him as well? Fantasys macro was strong though, i'll give you that. Consistant pump. And his "timing" vs ultras was good too, I suppose. But it had more to do with Child losing all his units before ultras came...then when ultras where out, tossing them at fantasy with little back up. Considering how far ahead child was after he completely destroyed fantasy's first ball of mnm/tank, he should have had a lot better mid/late game performance. I mean he had what 8+ lurkers after that fight? Maybe fantasy had a significant upgrade lead as I couldn't see child's upgrades, but even then, child completely failed to control fantasy's vessel count and get defliers into play effectively. When a zerg doesnt even take advantage of the power of plague even once you know something is wrong with his game management.


he had 3 lurkers left.

child was definitely ahead until that one attack that utterly failed (looked liek a swarm just didnt go off at all)

which lead him to lose 11 expo, then 6, then 5. then GG
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:53 GMT
#266
looksl ike it's ra's sound.
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
July 25 2007 19:54 GMT
#267
lol two probe scout...hmm
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:54 GMT
#268
game resumes!

wtf ra gets the lower geyser? why?

both players standard openings, ra starts his core.

OOOOOOOOOO ra with a probe at the 7 main's north corner, as he double scouts to 7 and 1
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
July 25 2007 19:54 GMT
#269
CHEESE ^^;
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
July 25 2007 19:54 GMT
#270
On July 26 2007 04:51 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 04:42 Daranee wrote:
On July 26 2007 04:38 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On July 26 2007 04:35 Daranee wrote:
Wow. the same fantasy that Draco beat....is playing SO well

Are you serious? I hate to be negative but its more like a battle of who can play worse...



His late game management and the amount of actions he's doing is what is really impressive. He controlled his large force very well. He maneurvered them across the map, while dropping and finishing off expos with his idle troops. His play really impressed me =T

Child is really good at making T's look good.

ROFL.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:55 GMT
#271
priobe starts a pylon at the 7 main, ra looking to proxy robo.....
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:55 GMT
#272
moment of truth, as fantasy scouts the 7 main... nope he turns around immidiately.

ra starts the robo~
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:55 GMT
#273
1 goon at ra's ramp, so fantasy wont be able to see the tech.

3 rines on fantasy's ramp so far, 1 fact addon.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:56 GMT
#274
robo done, ra sends 1 goon towards fantasy's main.

support bay starts, as fantasy starts cc at his main.
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
July 25 2007 19:57 GMT
#275
I think rA's reaver control is going to be godly and just completely dismantle the young By.FanTaSy
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:57 GMT
#276
ra brings a goon over to the 7 main so that he can drop goon-reaver. observatory starts in ra's main now.

ebay going up for fantasy, it's almost done!
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:58 GMT
#277
reaver out, fantasy maynarding to his nat, reaver droppedddd, 3 scvs in first shot, ebay lifts, 4 rines and 2 tanks come.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:58 GMT
#278
shuttle heads to fantasy's nat, reaver kills 1 scv there, scvs run back to the main. turret cancelled at the nat.

ra's shuttle leaves towards teh 12 expo.

ra expands to his nat, maynards.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:59 GMT
#279
ra drops the goon in the island at 9.
picks up 2nd reave.r
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:59 GMT
#280
fantasy with 1 tank sieged and 1 turret at his main.

2 reavers dropped, kills the turret.

fantasy brings his 4 rines over to try to get hits on the shuttle but doesn.t
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
July 25 2007 19:59 GMT
#281
OMG rA so lucky that his shuttle didn't die
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
July 25 2007 20:00 GMT
#282
On July 26 2007 04:58 thedeadhaji wrote:
shuttle heads to fantasy's nat, reaver kills 1 scv there, scvs run back to the main. turret cancelled at the nat.

ra's shuttle leaves towards teh 12 expo.

ra expands to his nat, maynards.

Wow pros are so fast. Expands then immediately maynards.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 20:00 GMT
#283
ra ALMOST lost shuttle and 2 reavers to a turret, shuttle with red hp.

ra breaks into fantasy's nat with goons, 2 reavers dropped, kilsl off the turret, now scvs being targetted.
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
July 25 2007 20:00 GMT
#284
On July 26 2007 04:57 Daranee wrote:
I think rA's reaver control is going to be godly and just completely dismantle the young By.FanTaSy



hahaha, completely true
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 20:02:14
July 25 2007 20:01 GMT
#285
Not exactly great reaver micro Fantasy was really unprepared for reaver at first.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 20:01 GMT
#286
1 tank dies to 2 reaver shots, ra drops 2 reavers on a sieged tank, but a mine kills 1 of the reavers (as well as the tank) and the 2nd reaver dies to a 2nd tank.

ra comes bnack though with 5 goons, they shove tehir way up the ramp, kills 2 tanks right away, a 3rd dies, scvs called to fight, vults made b/c he is short on time.
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-25 20:05:58
July 25 2007 20:01 GMT
#287
SEXY SHUTTLE CONTROL! Maneuvering through the two turrets was just too awesome.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 20:02 GMT
#288
vults clear the goons?

anotehr reaver is dropped in teh main, 1 tank dies to it, reaver killing turrets in fantasy's main.

another reaver out, this is the 4th reaver.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 20:02 GMT
#289
3rd reaver dies, but 4th is dropped an dkiling scvs, and now 2 goons an d1 zeal comes to fantasy's nat, reaver contines to kill scvs in the main.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 20:03 GMT
#290
tantasy escapes scvs into the main from his nat, 3 goons come into the main and snipe off tanks, fantasy tries to lay mines on teh goons but goons go out of range.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 20:04 GMT
#291
ra with two shuttles now, 2 reavers.

gg from fantasy.

themaniamst and nal_ra advance to MSL
Tyrio
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3248 Posts
July 25 2007 20:04 GMT
#292
Haha, poor fantasy manhandled by Ra in two games =P
[NA] Tyrio.486 / Ahsh
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 20:04 GMT
#293
Yay..just what I wanted.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Passenger
Profile Joined March 2007
Korea (South)387 Posts
July 25 2007 20:05 GMT
#294
This is Nal_ra's 11th MSL advance.
임, 콩, 광, 벼, 팥
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
July 25 2007 20:07 GMT
#295
Well done rA. Now DO something with this appearance.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
nysikto
Profile Joined March 2005
Norway337 Posts
July 25 2007 20:07 GMT
#296
marvellous played by rA fantasy got owned like he was a 12 year old noob
istealhotelsoap
Profile Joined February 2007
United States514 Posts
July 25 2007 20:07 GMT
#297
ra's red HP shuttle =O
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
July 25 2007 20:08 GMT
#298
thanks for reporting haji (:
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 20:10 GMT
#299
Given Ra's recent playing patterns and the nature of Desperado (Only gas at the main) I CANT BELIEVE that fantasy would open 1 fact cc? (this is what he opened right?). 2 fact tank into cc would be so much stronger. Specially sense you could compensate for the tank heavy build with a slightly faster secon gas before the min only cc was done.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
July 25 2007 22:43 GMT
#300
rA got lucky, like always.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 26 2007 01:37 GMT
#301
On July 26 2007 07:43 FirstBorn wrote:
rA got lucky, like always.


Yeah -_-;; 11th time luck is a charm.

POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
July 26 2007 02:15 GMT
#302
can't wait to watch the final game

also, is it me or do all of child's games suck? its just ugly to watch, win or lose
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yakii *
Profile Joined June 2006
Korea (South)1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-26 03:03:31
July 26 2007 02:57 GMT
#303
VODs!

MSL Survivor Group C
2007-07-26 (Thursday), 18:30, 02:30 Tl.net

Game 1
Nal_rA < Monty Hall > by.fantasy
Part 1 / Part 2


Game 2
Child < Monty Hall > TheManiaMST
Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3


Game 3 - Winner's Match
+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +

Nal_rA < Python > TheManiaMST
Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3


Game 4 - Loser's Match
+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +

Child < Python > by.fantasy
Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3


Game 5 - Loser's Final
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +

Nal_rA < Desperado > by.fantasy
Part 1 / Part 2
사마난
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
July 26 2007 03:26 GMT
#304
On July 26 2007 07:43 FirstBorn wrote:
rA got lucky, like always.

lol.... rA's forte is the MSL, and you're saying he got lucky? He's one of the most successful MSL players in history.
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 26 2007 04:55 GMT
#305
Thanks Yakii!!
Karma is a bitch
.dragoon
Profile Joined May 2007
United States749 Posts
July 26 2007 05:22 GMT
#306
On July 26 2007 12:26 WhatisProtoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 07:43 FirstBorn wrote:
rA got lucky, like always.

lol.... rA's forte is the MSL, and you're saying he got lucky? He's one of the most successful MSL players in history.

In that case, he better practice his pvp like crazy. His last 2 MSL exits are due to vP.
If you can, then do. If I can, I will.
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
July 26 2007 07:40 GMT
#307
at least ra go trhough..

no z on mbc starleague still?
I Love Hyori Lee =* icq: 41760400 / msn: kayen_chn at hotm
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
July 26 2007 07:43 GMT
#308
woot 4/4 today!!
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 26 2007 07:47 GMT
#309
rA is so inconsistent but i still <3 him
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 26 2007 08:03 GMT
#310
On July 26 2007 11:15 Hot_Bid wrote:
can't wait to watch the final game

also, is it me or do all of child's games suck? its just ugly to watch, win or lose

It's not just you.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 26 2007 08:04 GMT
#311
On July 26 2007 16:40 Kacas wrote:
at least ra go trhough..

no z on mbc starleague still?

I know Orion qualified off the top of my head, so there's one at least.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
therockpwns
Profile Joined July 2007
73 Posts
July 26 2007 09:01 GMT
#312
TheManiaMST


now i know why anytime with such imba power... almost defeated him.
insane gosu skills.
therockpwns you heard me the first time. some people started to curse me and call me "carlodajin" after i said this: --WCG OWNS ALL EZ--
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 26 2007 09:38 GMT
#313
Not really following the point of your post?
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
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