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BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria492 Posts
October 17 2020 17:27 GMT
#21
On October 17 2020 18:31 ZZZero.O wrote:
We will cast all the matches in 5 days. Its 28 bo3. Just for your love guys.


rofl, my math is s**t, forgot to divide them by 2 as one match covers two match ups, 28 bo3's is still an awesome number of games <3
music is the best thing in the world
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7577 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 17:49:51
October 17 2020 17:39 GMT
#22
Koget bottom left
Oya top right

Proxy-gateway outside of nat
Koget stops gateway with scv,
gas gets stolen,
second barracks in the center. scv marine attack coming

Zealot sees the attack comming, zealot dies,

Oya has 2 zealots vs 7 marines 4 scv,
Nexus dies, bunker up.

Koget presses and loses scvs and marines except four in bunker.
Koget expo-teching
Koget looks dead.

Factory very late.
Crazy bunker hold.

Dragoons back. Bust bunker, 1 tank out no seige,
I'm wrong, siege out. Tank dies.

2 factorys with add-ons , 8 or so goons in natural.
29 supply vs 62

Attempted roxy stim-firebat in oya main.
Oya kills it. and catches barracks.

This game is so one-side, I feel like it would take 30 minutes for Terran to find a win here,
maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

It is tiny terran vs half map protoss, I'm not gonna lr the rest of this one.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7577 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 18:09:43
October 17 2020 18:08 GMT
#23
I f5'ed my report.
Game 2, cross map macro game.

Reaver shows up and murders 2 scv lines right as kogeT took his third.

Somehow he ends up almost even on scvs in a few minutes.

5 base v 4 base

Recall in the center of kogets base, both armories killed.
Somehow Koget is climbing in supply and is within 20 as he his 175.

Koget batches gollies and snipes a central arb

Oya is going up to 7 bases

Both armories die to a recall at the natural of koget
Koget ninja expo in the bottom left corner

Vults kill 1 expo, oya mining on 3 bases despite having 4 expos

200/200 koget push, carrier-goon-zealot-templar-shuttle-obs vs vult/tank and a control group of golies

Oya is hitting him head on.

Big fight, Koget wins, but then is instantly down 20 supply from the protoss re-up.
Koget now has a better economy, as carriers begin to stack.

200 protoss attacks 163 terran

Terran supply plummets, Tanks dead almost no army for koget

Protoss is getting broke, Maybe I was wrong and koget didn't have enough scvs at his ninja expo.
They just showed, only gas mining really.

200 vs 100

Koget gg's.

2/0 Oya

AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7577 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 18:36:59
October 17 2020 18:35 GMT
#24
Dewalt v Eon g1 recap

map eclispe

Top right dewalt
Bottom left Eonzerg

Dewalt FE - scout on forge
Overpool- drone scout

Standard play.
First Zealot sneaks around the map and kills 3 drones at eonzerg natural, 2 zealots attack eonzergs third which is only defended by 2 hydra,

Eon goes for 4 hat hydra-bust, sairs kill tons of lords
Eonzerg on tiny eco push dewalts natural

Eonzerg on 4 hat hydra forever
Dewalt holds until storm, thins out army and makes archons, zealots out number hydra as dewalt pushes out, wins a few imbalanced skirmishes and Eon taps out.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7577 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 19:01:30
October 17 2020 18:48 GMT
#25
Dewalt v Eon g2 recap

Map sylphid

Eonzerg at 8 Dewalt at 4

Repeat openings as game 1 except eonzerg doesn't drone scout
and send his drone to his third, the mineral only.
Eonzergs overlord scouts dewalt first and is posted over dewalts nexus.

3 hat gas,
Hero probe see everything

3 hat lair v fe - starport
Hero probe continues, see spire and dies then after.

Eonzerg attempts an illogical looking runby and loses 9 lings, 1 gets into dewalts main.
Eonzergs on 4 hat, has hydra den.
Dewalt moves out with five zealots as 3 sairs return home
Speed is done

HOLYFUCKING SHIT SOMEONE JUST DONATED $1000
What a fucking legend, You fucking rock.
I didn't catch their name.
Edit - mulahay is reported to be the legend who support the bsl!

Dewalt has hyper prepared for hydras, sairs kill all the overlords right after eonzergs bust is aborted after serious loses.

39 to 77 supply, still 5 hats low drones.

4 lurkers morphing as zealot templar sair show up
templar near lurker eggs
Eggs stormed but only once, 2 lurkers burrow zealots run past into eonz main

45/5, Eonzerg is overlordless.
This isn't even close, dewalt has completed midgame tech with obs, Eonzerg taps out as dewalt runs him over

2/0 Dewalt
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-17 18:59:31
October 17 2020 18:56 GMT
#26
great battle reports thanks

that was an absolutely insane and legendary donation by mulahay..

1000$ wow.. Excellent
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7577 Posts
October 17 2020 19:00 GMT
#27
On October 18 2020 03:56 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
great battle reports thanks

that was an absolutely insane and legendary donation..

1000$ wow.. Excellent

Thank you, I hope it helps people with less time to follow the event.

Yeah, that hero donator got bsl11 like 27% funded in one go.

I am going to take a break and play some quake.
I hope to time it right to catch the last match of the day.
skycycle
Profile Joined April 2016
Netherlands36 Posts
October 17 2020 19:40 GMT
#28
I stepped away for a game and came back to find the donation goal almost at 50%
Mar Sara Separatist
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
October 17 2020 20:04 GMT
#29
Could you please upload the streams to utube.

Why you ask? Because casting twitch is a horrible experience but utube a breeze as its built into the chromecast.

Twitch relies on data going through your phone causing quality to be poor + battery drain in half an hour.

Thx in advance if possible. Another idea could be using restream.io for utube users.
-.-
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7577 Posts
October 17 2020 20:11 GMT
#30
He dewaltzed across the zergs.

Dewalt just looks imba.
Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-18 15:35:42
October 18 2020 01:56 GMT
#31
On October 18 2020 05:04 MeSaber wrote:
Could you please upload the streams to utube.

Why you ask? Because casting twitch is a horrible experience but utube a breeze as its built into the chromecast.

Twitch relies on data going through your phone causing quality to be poor + battery drain in half an hour.

Thx in advance if possible. Another idea could be using restream.io for utube users.


Twitch works with chromecast.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7577 Posts
October 18 2020 19:01 GMT
#32
Thread bump, games are live and nobody is talking.

First off, So many awesome people have contributed in the last 2 days.
It was 300/3900 two days ago, now it was 2700/3900 - what great progress.

Really bummed that Eonzerg has decided to play every zvp game so aggro, just seems very half hearted.
Sorry but if you can play lategame zvt with defilers, you can take a forth and hold vs protoss.

Bonyth v Eonzerg g1 recap

Eonzerg goes 5 hat hydra bust, Bonyth makes cannons and some pretty blocking pylons,
Eon eats a storm and dodges nicely two others. Cannons Finish, Bonyth is safe.

As Eonzerg sets up a wide lurker contain, a sair, dropship,zealot,templar and 1 dt manage to wreck all the drones at eonzergs natural and main. Eonzerg with a fullcontain, resigns with less then 20 drones on 3 bases.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3433 Posts
October 18 2020 19:15 GMT
#33
Protoss 16-0 so far in games.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7577 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-18 19:20:53
October 18 2020 19:19 GMT
#34
Bonyth v Eonzerg g2 recap

Eonzerg, played a nice 6 hat hydra build vs Bonyths +1 armor zealot/sair/templar

Bonyth takes a third while getting 2 lurkers dropped in his main and one at his natural. Things look strong for eonzergon.

Giant hydra army is slowly killed by a much larger protoss army.

Bonyth grabs a 4th, and put his army on the space outside of Eonzergs third.
Eonzerg moves out with 25-30 hydras to attack Bonyths third, Bonyth at the same time attacks Eonzergs third and just wrecks house.

The theme of this game was, Hydras can't attack larger armies across bridges after storm.

Glad to have gotten to see a midgame fight.

Bonyth the super-slow speed protoss wins 2/0.
...onmYwaY
Profile Joined August 2018
99 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-19 10:20:41
October 19 2020 10:15 GMT
#35
On October 19 2020 04:15 True_Spike wrote:
Protoss 16-0 so far in games.


It's kind of interesting to see how non-korean Broodwar seems to have a more developed Protoss than the other races. Are we stuck in a Protoss favoured meta? or is it just the myth of "The Legend of the Fall"

I don't think the Protoss players work harder or have more talent (except for Bonyth...). Even in my low ranks I feel that a -200 MMR Protoss is still deadly... while Terran and Zerg MMR seem more even.

This is kind of unparalleled in Broodwar history, never have a race been this dominant. We might have hit some 40-45% win rate at some point in time…

https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/522876-brood-war-balance-research-here-is-mine

Why do we have 16-0 protoss?! Discuss...
elpolloloco31
Profile Joined April 2018
145 Posts
October 19 2020 10:23 GMT
#36
great games this weekend. eon my friend please please get in shape. you do so well, than you do something so meaningless you lose the game. you could have won both of them so easy
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
October 19 2020 10:36 GMT
#37
On October 19 2020 19:15 ...onmYwaY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2020 04:15 True_Spike wrote:
Protoss 16-0 so far in games.


It's kind of interesting to see how non-korean Broodwar seems to have a more developed Protoss than the other races. Are we stuck in a Protoss favoured meta? or is it just the myth of "The Legend of the Fall"

I don't think the Protoss players work harder or have more talent (except for Bonyth...). Even in my low ranks I feel that a -200 MMR Protoss is still deadly... while Terran and Zerg MMR seem more even.

This is kind of unparalleled in Broodwar history, never have a race been this dominant. We might have hit some 40-45% win rate at some point in time…

https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/522876-brood-war-balance-research-here-is-mine

Why do we have 16-0 protoss?! Discuss...



Around 2013 the top 3 of almost all tournaments were zerg, with Sziky often being nr. 1. These are natural shifts, i would not read anything into it.
Broodwar for life!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
October 19 2020 13:49 GMT
#38
hopefully next week of games will be better

GGs
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
October 19 2020 13:52 GMT
#39
On October 19 2020 19:36 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2020 19:15 ...onmYwaY wrote:
On October 19 2020 04:15 True_Spike wrote:
Protoss 16-0 so far in games.


It's kind of interesting to see how non-korean Broodwar seems to have a more developed Protoss than the other races. Are we stuck in a Protoss favoured meta? or is it just the myth of "The Legend of the Fall"

I don't think the Protoss players work harder or have more talent (except for Bonyth...). Even in my low ranks I feel that a -200 MMR Protoss is still deadly... while Terran and Zerg MMR seem more even.

This is kind of unparalleled in Broodwar history, never have a race been this dominant. We might have hit some 40-45% win rate at some point in time…

https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/522876-brood-war-balance-research-here-is-mine

Why do we have 16-0 protoss?! Discuss...



Around 2013 the top 3 of almost all tournaments were zerg, with Sziky often being nr. 1. These are natural shifts, i would not read anything into it.

I would say that zergs completely dominated the foreign scene from around 2013 to around 2017. It's time for protoss to step in now. The protoss players are just in much better form at the moment and that's pretty much it
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
October 19 2020 16:42 GMT
#40
On October 19 2020 22:52 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2020 19:36 Cele wrote:
On October 19 2020 19:15 ...onmYwaY wrote:
On October 19 2020 04:15 True_Spike wrote:
Protoss 16-0 so far in games.


It's kind of interesting to see how non-korean Broodwar seems to have a more developed Protoss than the other races. Are we stuck in a Protoss favoured meta? or is it just the myth of "The Legend of the Fall"

I don't think the Protoss players work harder or have more talent (except for Bonyth...). Even in my low ranks I feel that a -200 MMR Protoss is still deadly... while Terran and Zerg MMR seem more even.

This is kind of unparalleled in Broodwar history, never have a race been this dominant. We might have hit some 40-45% win rate at some point in time…

https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/522876-brood-war-balance-research-here-is-mine

Why do we have 16-0 protoss?! Discuss...



Around 2013 the top 3 of almost all tournaments were zerg, with Sziky often being nr. 1. These are natural shifts, i would not read anything into it.

I would say that zergs completely dominated the foreign scene from around 2013 to around 2017. It's time for protoss to step in now. The protoss players are just in much better form at the moment and that's pretty much it


I agree. I wrote the above from the top of my head, we had TLS 1-3, which were 1) all win by a Z and 2) all had 3 Z in the top 4. Thats a pretty big statement if we consider TLS was the major foreign tournament back then.

I could look up the data, but the era of dominance excerted by Sziky-->trutacz/technics/eonzerg stretched far longer as you pointed out. My subjective pov is that it [era of dominance of foreign zergs] ended 2016ish.
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