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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
September 26 2017 11:39 GMT
#221
On September 26 2017 20:37 Letmelose wrote:
The players (EffOrt, and BeSt) who enjoyed the greatest success against Flash in sponsored games ever since his return to the Brood War scene are now all out. I wonder if anyone will rise up to the challenge, now that arguably the greatest threats for Flash are all gone.

The greatest threats for Flash are Larva and Rain :-)
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
September 26 2017 11:39 GMT
#222
On September 26 2017 20:27 Foxxan wrote:
zvz is so bullshit.
Patch the game blizzard.

no
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Mrwl
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Sweden339 Posts
September 26 2017 11:40 GMT
#223
Great casting FlashFTW and EsportsJohn, informative and educational
BW heyo
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
September 26 2017 11:41 GMT
#224
effort's mechanics are nuts but he needs to think better on the fly, his decision making got him eliminated. you can't blame it on nerves either imo, he's been around for a while.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10236 Posts
September 26 2017 11:42 GMT
#225
On September 26 2017 20:40 Mrwl wrote:
Great casting FlashFTW and EsportsJohn, informative and educational

thank you <3
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
September 26 2017 11:43 GMT
#226
On September 26 2017 20:37 Letmelose wrote:
The players (EffOrt, and BeSt) who enjoyed the greatest success against Flash in sponsored games ever since his return to the Brood War scene are now all out. I wonder if anyone will rise up to the challenge, now that arguably the greatest threats for Flash are all gone.


Everyone can beat terrans so easily now, except flash, and when threats like effort and best get eliminated before even having a chance to face him, you'll get another easy title for flash. Hero could reach the finals now if he avoids flash, and just face him there with absolutely NO chance of beating him. Ugh.

At least we still have larva, and I also believe in stork to be honest. If he cares, I think he could win, but he needs to care and practice. Other than that, MAYBE shuttle because of how good he is at the moment? But that's a stretch. And as much as I like killer now, I don't think he stands a chance whatsoever vs flash in a bo5.

This is really looking like an easy title for flash.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 26 2017 11:43 GMT
#227
Agree. Eventually nerves are not much of an issue. Maybe it's too early to say but at this point, I think Larva's nerves are mostly gone with how he performed in the Ro24 and today.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
September 26 2017 11:43 GMT
#228
On September 26 2017 20:39 VioleTAK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2017 20:37 Letmelose wrote:
The players (EffOrt, and BeSt) who enjoyed the greatest success against Flash in sponsored games ever since his return to the Brood War scene are now all out. I wonder if anyone will rise up to the challenge, now that arguably the greatest threats for Flash are all gone.

The greatest threats for Flash are Larva and Rain :-)


All-time sponsored match statistics:

EffOrt versus Flash: 114-159 (41.76%)
BeSt versus Flash: 76-108 (41.30%)
Rain versus Flash: 26-37 (41.27%)
Larva versus Flash: 131-295 (30.75%)
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10236 Posts
September 26 2017 11:44 GMT
#229
On September 26 2017 20:43 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2017 20:39 VioleTAK wrote:
On September 26 2017 20:37 Letmelose wrote:
The players (EffOrt, and BeSt) who enjoyed the greatest success against Flash in sponsored games ever since his return to the Brood War scene are now all out. I wonder if anyone will rise up to the challenge, now that arguably the greatest threats for Flash are all gone.

The greatest threats for Flash are Larva and Rain :-)


All-time sponsored match statistics:

EffOrt versus Flash: 114-159 (41.76%)
BeSt versus Flash: 76-108 (41.30%)
Rain versus Flash: 26-37 (41.27%)
Larva versus Flash: 131-295 (30.75%)

who have the highest win percentage against flash?
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 26 2017 11:45 GMT
#230
On September 26 2017 20:43 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2017 20:39 VioleTAK wrote:
On September 26 2017 20:37 Letmelose wrote:
The players (EffOrt, and BeSt) who enjoyed the greatest success against Flash in sponsored games ever since his return to the Brood War scene are now all out. I wonder if anyone will rise up to the challenge, now that arguably the greatest threats for Flash are all gone.

The greatest threats for Flash are Larva and Rain :-)


All-time sponsored match statistics:

EffOrt versus Flash: 114-159 (41.76%)
BeSt versus Flash: 76-108 (41.30%)
Rain versus Flash: 26-37 (41.27%)
Larva versus Flash: 131-295 (30.75%)

Do you have the most recent ones? All-time is probably not a good idea seeing as the players' motivation and skills and such change so drastically.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
September 26 2017 11:46 GMT
#231
We need to be careful complaining too much about casters. Because they do nothing but add content that you don't have to listen to anyway if you don’t like it. There are other options out there and if you really don’t like the official English stream watch the Korean or FlashFTW streams. I understand the criticism of Artosis and Tasteless because they don't always sound very professional. Entertainment is completely subjective so you should just watch what you enjoy in my opinion.

We have had awesome casters quit before because of abuse and complaints when a lot of people really enjoyed their work and many people really missed them when they were gone. We should learn from our mistakes as a community and also the casters themselves should analyze their own performance and consider if they can improve.

I thank everyone that is casting and hope we continue to have good choices in the future.
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1711 Posts
September 26 2017 11:47 GMT
#232
On September 26 2017 20:39 VioleTAK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2017 20:37 Letmelose wrote:
The players (EffOrt, and BeSt) who enjoyed the greatest success against Flash in sponsored games ever since his return to the Brood War scene are now all out. I wonder if anyone will rise up to the challenge, now that arguably the greatest threats for Flash are all gone.

The greatest threats for Flash are Larva and Rain :-)

I would say Bisu JD SK.. Larva maybe
Rain loves Flash too much to beat him
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-26 11:53:44
September 26 2017 11:49 GMT
#233
On September 26 2017 20:44 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2017 20:43 Letmelose wrote:
On September 26 2017 20:39 VioleTAK wrote:
On September 26 2017 20:37 Letmelose wrote:
The players (EffOrt, and BeSt) who enjoyed the greatest success against Flash in sponsored games ever since his return to the Brood War scene are now all out. I wonder if anyone will rise up to the challenge, now that arguably the greatest threats for Flash are all gone.

The greatest threats for Flash are Larva and Rain :-)


All-time sponsored match statistics:

EffOrt versus Flash: 114-159 (41.76%)
BeSt versus Flash: 76-108 (41.30%)
Rain versus Flash: 26-37 (41.27%)
Larva versus Flash: 131-295 (30.75%)

who have the highest win percentage against flash?


EffOrt.

Even if it is not all-time, this month's statistics is not all that good for Larva.

Larva versus Flash this month: 9-26 (25.71%)
EffOrt versus Flash this month: 17-18 (48.57%)
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-26 11:50:18
September 26 2017 11:50 GMT
#234
Last was the last person to destroy Flash 3-0 in a BO5.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 26 2017 11:50 GMT
#235
On September 26 2017 20:46 Greg_J wrote:
We need to be careful complaining too much about casters. Because they do nothing but add content that you don't have to listen to anyway if you don’t like it. There are other options out there and if you really don’t like the official English stream watch the Korean or FlashFTW streams. I understand the criticism of Artosis and Tasteless because they don't always sound very professional. Entertainment is completely subjective so you should just watch what you enjoy in my opinion.

We have had awesome casters quit before because of abuse and complaints when a lot of people really enjoyed their work and many people really missed them when they were gone. We should learn from our mistakes as a community and also the casters themselves should analyze their own performance and consider if they can improve.

I thank everyone that is casting and hope we continue to have good choices in the future.

I believe the criticism so far may be warranted if they are indeed ignoring the games as is implied, however I also agree that entertainment is subjective so if someone doesn't like a casting style, best to just move to another stream then.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1711 Posts
September 26 2017 11:50 GMT
#236
On September 26 2017 20:46 Greg_J wrote:
We need to be careful complaining too much about casters. Because they do nothing but add content that you don't have to listen to anyway if you don’t like it. There are other options out there and if you really don’t like the official English stream watch the Korean or FlashFTW streams. I understand the criticism of Artosis and Tasteless because they don't always sound very professional. Entertainment is completely subjective so you should just watch what you enjoy in my opinion.

We have had awesome casters quit before because of abuse and complaints when a lot of people really enjoyed their work and many people really missed them when they were gone. We should learn from our mistakes as a community and also the casters themselves should analyze their own performance and consider if they can improve.

I thank everyone that is casting and hope we continue to have good choices in the future.

Well said.. I like tastosis too so it is subjective
It is fine though to share one's opinion in a forum, just dont harass the casters
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10236 Posts
September 26 2017 11:50 GMT
#237
On September 26 2017 20:49 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2017 20:44 FlaShFTW wrote:
On September 26 2017 20:43 Letmelose wrote:
On September 26 2017 20:39 VioleTAK wrote:
On September 26 2017 20:37 Letmelose wrote:
The players (EffOrt, and BeSt) who enjoyed the greatest success against Flash in sponsored games ever since his return to the Brood War scene are now all out. I wonder if anyone will rise up to the challenge, now that arguably the greatest threats for Flash are all gone.

The greatest threats for Flash are Larva and Rain :-)


All-time sponsored match statistics:

EffOrt versus Flash: 114-159 (41.76%)
BeSt versus Flash: 76-108 (41.30%)
Rain versus Flash: 26-37 (41.27%)
Larva versus Flash: 131-295 (30.75%)

who have the highest win percentage against flash?


EffOrt.

rip hes out. flash vs rain/larva right now for the best shot of taking him out.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1601 Posts
September 26 2017 12:35 GMT
#238
Nooo, EffOrt!

eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
September 26 2017 12:36 GMT
#239
On September 26 2017 20:46 Greg_J wrote:
We need to be careful complaining too much about casters. Because they do nothing but add content that you don't have to listen to anyway if you don’t like it. There are other options out there and if you really don’t like the official English stream watch the Korean or FlashFTW streams. I understand the criticism of Artosis and Tasteless because they don't always sound very professional. Entertainment is completely subjective so you should just watch what you enjoy in my opinion.

We have had awesome casters quit before because of abuse and complaints when a lot of people really enjoyed their work and many people really missed them when they were gone. We should learn from our mistakes as a community and also the casters themselves should analyze their own performance and consider if they can improve.

I thank everyone that is casting and hope we continue to have good choices in the future.


Word, man.

I usually enjoy Tastosis (actually, ASL S2 and their casting is what brought me back to watching Broodwar - I had stopped for like 8 years), but I see where people have grounds for complaint. They sometimes don't really pay attention to the games and miss important stuff, like scouts spotting backstabbing squads and such. But that is no reason to be abusively criticizing, so I guess criticism should be just informative - "these guys do this and that, so if that's your style, give them a go, otherwise watch FlaShFTW or korean casting like I do". There is an off chance that Tastosis might even need the feedback, though they've been around for so long I don't really think they would change their style now.

On this note, the dissociation between obsing and casting is sometimes freaking me out. There's dozens of times I was shouting "COME ON TASTELESS SHOW ME WHAT YOU MEAN DON'T JUST SHOW ME PLAYER A's MINERAL LINE" and then I realize the obs is someone else and has something different in mind. :D
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Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-26 12:55:02
September 26 2017 12:54 GMT
#240
VODs of today's zergfest available in the Small VOD Thread.
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