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On September 26 2017 20:37 Letmelose wrote:
The players (EffOrt, and BeSt) who enjoyed the greatest success against Flash in sponsored games ever since his return to the Brood War scene are now all out. I wonder if anyone will rise up to the challenge, now that arguably the greatest threats for Flash are all gone.
The greatest threats for Flash are Larva and Rain :-)
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On September 26 2017 20:27 Foxxan wrote:
zvz is so bullshit.
Patch the game blizzard.
no
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effort's mechanics are nuts but he needs to think better on the fly, his decision making got him eliminated. you can't blame it on nerves either imo, he's been around for a while.
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United States10569 Posts
On September 26 2017 20:40 Mrwl wrote:Great casting FlashFTW and EsportsJohn, informative and educational 
thank you <3
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On September 26 2017 20:37 Letmelose wrote:
The players (EffOrt, and BeSt) who enjoyed the greatest success against Flash in sponsored games ever since his return to the Brood War scene are now all out. I wonder if anyone will rise up to the challenge, now that arguably the greatest threats for Flash are all gone.
Everyone can beat terrans so easily now, except flash, and when threats like effort and best get eliminated before even having a chance to face him, you'll get another easy title for flash. Hero could reach the finals now if he avoids flash, and just face him there with absolutely NO chance of beating him. Ugh.
At least we still have larva, and I also believe in stork to be honest. If he cares, I think he could win, but he needs to care and practice. Other than that, MAYBE shuttle because of how good he is at the moment? But that's a stretch. And as much as I like killer now, I don't think he stands a chance whatsoever vs flash in a bo5.
This is really looking like an easy title for flash.
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Agree. Eventually nerves are not much of an issue. Maybe it's too early to say but at this point, I think Larva's nerves are mostly gone with how he performed in the Ro24 and today.
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On September 26 2017 20:39 VioleTAK wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2017 20:37 Letmelose wrote:
The players (EffOrt, and BeSt) who enjoyed the greatest success against Flash in sponsored games ever since his return to the Brood War scene are now all out. I wonder if anyone will rise up to the challenge, now that arguably the greatest threats for Flash are all gone. The greatest threats for Flash are Larva and Rain :-)
All-time sponsored match statistics:
EffOrt versus Flash: 114-159 (41.76%)
BeSt versus Flash: 76-108 (41.30%)
Rain versus Flash: 26-37 (41.27%)
Larva versus Flash: 131-295 (30.75%)
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United States10569 Posts
On September 26 2017 20:43 Letmelose wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2017 20:39 VioleTAK wrote:On September 26 2017 20:37 Letmelose wrote:
The players (EffOrt, and BeSt) who enjoyed the greatest success against Flash in sponsored games ever since his return to the Brood War scene are now all out. I wonder if anyone will rise up to the challenge, now that arguably the greatest threats for Flash are all gone. The greatest threats for Flash are Larva and Rain :-) All-time sponsored match statistics: EffOrt versus Flash: 114-159 (41.76%) BeSt versus Flash: 76-108 (41.30%) Rain versus Flash: 26-37 (41.27%) Larva versus Flash: 131-295 (30.75%)
who have the highest win percentage against flash?
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On September 26 2017 20:43 Letmelose wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2017 20:39 VioleTAK wrote:On September 26 2017 20:37 Letmelose wrote:
The players (EffOrt, and BeSt) who enjoyed the greatest success against Flash in sponsored games ever since his return to the Brood War scene are now all out. I wonder if anyone will rise up to the challenge, now that arguably the greatest threats for Flash are all gone. The greatest threats for Flash are Larva and Rain :-) All-time sponsored match statistics: EffOrt versus Flash: 114-159 (41.76%) BeSt versus Flash: 76-108 (41.30%) Rain versus Flash: 26-37 (41.27%) Larva versus Flash: 131-295 (30.75%)
Do you have the most recent ones? All-time is probably not a good idea seeing as the players' motivation and skills and such change so drastically.
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We need to be careful complaining too much about casters. Because they do nothing but add content that you don't have to listen to anyway if you don’t like it. There are other options out there and if you really don’t like the official English stream watch the Korean or FlashFTW streams. I understand the criticism of Artosis and Tasteless because they don't always sound very professional. Entertainment is completely subjective so you should just watch what you enjoy in my opinion.
We have had awesome casters quit before because of abuse and complaints when a lot of people really enjoyed their work and many people really missed them when they were gone. We should learn from our mistakes as a community and also the casters themselves should analyze their own performance and consider if they can improve.
I thank everyone that is casting and hope we continue to have good choices in the future.
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On September 26 2017 20:39 VioleTAK wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2017 20:37 Letmelose wrote:
The players (EffOrt, and BeSt) who enjoyed the greatest success against Flash in sponsored games ever since his return to the Brood War scene are now all out. I wonder if anyone will rise up to the challenge, now that arguably the greatest threats for Flash are all gone. The greatest threats for Flash are Larva and Rain :-)
I would say Bisu JD SK.. Larva maybe
Rain loves Flash too much to beat him
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On September 26 2017 20:44 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2017 20:43 Letmelose wrote:On September 26 2017 20:39 VioleTAK wrote:On September 26 2017 20:37 Letmelose wrote:
The players (EffOrt, and BeSt) who enjoyed the greatest success against Flash in sponsored games ever since his return to the Brood War scene are now all out. I wonder if anyone will rise up to the challenge, now that arguably the greatest threats for Flash are all gone. The greatest threats for Flash are Larva and Rain :-) All-time sponsored match statistics: EffOrt versus Flash: 114-159 (41.76%) BeSt versus Flash: 76-108 (41.30%) Rain versus Flash: 26-37 (41.27%) Larva versus Flash: 131-295 (30.75%) who have the highest win percentage against flash?
EffOrt.
Even if it is not all-time, this month's statistics is not all that good for Larva.
Larva versus Flash this month: 9-26 (25.71%)
EffOrt versus Flash this month: 17-18 (48.57%)
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Last was the last person to destroy Flash 3-0 in a BO5.
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On September 26 2017 20:46 Greg_J wrote:
We need to be careful complaining too much about casters. Because they do nothing but add content that you don't have to listen to anyway if you don’t like it. There are other options out there and if you really don’t like the official English stream watch the Korean or FlashFTW streams. I understand the criticism of Artosis and Tasteless because they don't always sound very professional. Entertainment is completely subjective so you should just watch what you enjoy in my opinion.
We have had awesome casters quit before because of abuse and complaints when a lot of people really enjoyed their work and many people really missed them when they were gone. We should learn from our mistakes as a community and also the casters themselves should analyze their own performance and consider if they can improve.
I thank everyone that is casting and hope we continue to have good choices in the future.
I believe the criticism so far may be warranted if they are indeed ignoring the games as is implied, however I also agree that entertainment is subjective so if someone doesn't like a casting style, best to just move to another stream then.
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On September 26 2017 20:46 Greg_J wrote:
We need to be careful complaining too much about casters. Because they do nothing but add content that you don't have to listen to anyway if you don’t like it. There are other options out there and if you really don’t like the official English stream watch the Korean or FlashFTW streams. I understand the criticism of Artosis and Tasteless because they don't always sound very professional. Entertainment is completely subjective so you should just watch what you enjoy in my opinion.
We have had awesome casters quit before because of abuse and complaints when a lot of people really enjoyed their work and many people really missed them when they were gone. We should learn from our mistakes as a community and also the casters themselves should analyze their own performance and consider if they can improve.
I thank everyone that is casting and hope we continue to have good choices in the future.
Well said.. I like tastosis too so it is subjective
It is fine though to share one's opinion in a forum, just dont harass the casters
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On September 26 2017 20:49 Letmelose wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2017 20:44 FlaShFTW wrote:On September 26 2017 20:43 Letmelose wrote:On September 26 2017 20:39 VioleTAK wrote:On September 26 2017 20:37 Letmelose wrote:
The players (EffOrt, and BeSt) who enjoyed the greatest success against Flash in sponsored games ever since his return to the Brood War scene are now all out. I wonder if anyone will rise up to the challenge, now that arguably the greatest threats for Flash are all gone. The greatest threats for Flash are Larva and Rain :-) All-time sponsored match statistics: EffOrt versus Flash: 114-159 (41.76%) BeSt versus Flash: 76-108 (41.30%) Rain versus Flash: 26-37 (41.27%) Larva versus Flash: 131-295 (30.75%) who have the highest win percentage against flash? EffOrt.
rip hes out. flash vs rain/larva right now for the best shot of taking him out.
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Nooo, EffOrt! 
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On September 26 2017 20:46 Greg_J wrote:
We need to be careful complaining too much about casters. Because they do nothing but add content that you don't have to listen to anyway if you don’t like it. There are other options out there and if you really don’t like the official English stream watch the Korean or FlashFTW streams. I understand the criticism of Artosis and Tasteless because they don't always sound very professional. Entertainment is completely subjective so you should just watch what you enjoy in my opinion.
We have had awesome casters quit before because of abuse and complaints when a lot of people really enjoyed their work and many people really missed them when they were gone. We should learn from our mistakes as a community and also the casters themselves should analyze their own performance and consider if they can improve.
I thank everyone that is casting and hope we continue to have good choices in the future.
Word, man.
I usually enjoy Tastosis (actually, ASL S2 and their casting is what brought me back to watching Broodwar - I had stopped for like 8 years), but I see where people have grounds for complaint. They sometimes don't really pay attention to the games and miss important stuff, like scouts spotting backstabbing squads and such. But that is no reason to be abusively criticizing, so I guess criticism should be just informative - "these guys do this and that, so if that's your style, give them a go, otherwise watch FlaShFTW or korean casting like I do". There is an off chance that Tastosis might even need the feedback, though they've been around for so long I don't really think they would change their style now.
On this note, the dissociation between obsing and casting is sometimes freaking me out. There's dozens of times I was shouting "COME ON TASTELESS SHOW ME WHAT YOU MEAN DON'T JUST SHOW ME PLAYER A's MINERAL LINE" and then I realize the obs is someone else and has something different in mind. :D
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