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Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
September 19 2017 10:52 GMT
#81
I feel so bad for snow. Particularly on such a big stage.

Reminds me of trying to 1 gate open against JulyZerg... T_T at least that only ever happened in practice... and noone knows about it
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
September 19 2017 10:53 GMT
#82
On September 19 2017 19:43 739 wrote:
The zoom out is especially effective in TvT games like Rush vs Mind, so you can see what's going on in different points of the map.

But you cannot focus on more than one thing at the time. Thats why a good observer used to watch the minimap for us and change the screen accordingly to give us a full picture. Now we have to do that work ourselves and this leads the brain to be less focused so as to take in more information at the time.
pinkbowtie1
Profile Joined September 2017
23 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-19 10:54:36
September 19 2017 10:53 GMT
#83
letian I did, I like watching hilarious short games sometimes
soz
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10358 Posts
September 19 2017 10:53 GMT
#84
On September 19 2017 19:51 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2017 19:49 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
(hero is the best Z atm from my understanding so definitely interested)

He isn't even in the top 4.

yeah i was about to say... snow literally made hero look like 2009-2010 jaedong lol.

Jaedong, Soulkey, Larva, Effort are all better zergs than hero right now. His ZvT is crap again, ZvZ is a coin flip, and his ZvP isn't even a sure win anymore against protoss.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10033 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-19 10:56:51
September 19 2017 10:54 GMT
#85
On September 19 2017 19:50 tanngard wrote:
How nervous is snow playing offline? He completely fell apart to 3 zerglings..


It's not that he fell apart to the lings, usually when z has 3 speedlings in ur main that early the game's over. The problem was he looked unbelievably sloppy leading up to that point.

His first 3 zeals weren't micro'd well at all, his cannon was way too late and he didnt even block his front to deny the lings from running in. Add to that the fact that he an idle probe at the start of the game (when tastosis said the probe was spotting the ovi as a joke) and he lost like 3 workers (with 2 idle workers next to his nexus) to 1 slow ling.. wasn't pretty at all.
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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4070 Posts
September 19 2017 10:55 GMT
#86
On September 19 2017 19:53 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2017 19:51 Ej_ wrote:
On September 19 2017 19:49 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
(hero is the best Z atm from my understanding so definitely interested)

He isn't even in the top 4.

yeah i was about to say... snow literally made hero look like 2009-2010 jaedong lol.

Jaedong, Soulkey, Larva, Effort are all better zergs than hero right now. His ZvT is crap again, ZvZ is a coin flip, and his ZvP isn't even a sure win anymore against protoss.


what about Killer and Shine?
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10358 Posts
September 19 2017 10:56 GMT
#87
I would disagree that 3 speedlings in your main at that point in the game being game over. we've seen pro games where zerg has like 4-5 lings and the protoss knows how to probe micro way better than that. obviously its not good for protoss but i think you might be exaggerating.
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oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
September 19 2017 10:56 GMT
#88
Snow just wanted to avoid shuttle in the winners game imo
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
September 19 2017 10:57 GMT
#89
Btw whatever happened to Zero?
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
September 19 2017 10:57 GMT
#90
On September 19 2017 19:54 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2017 19:50 tanngard wrote:
How nervous is snow playing offline? He completely fell apart to 3 zerglings..


It's not that he fell apart to the lings, usually when z has 3 speedlings in ur main that early the games over. The problem was he looked unbelievably sloppy leading up to that point.

His first 3 zeals weren't micro'd well at all, his cannon was way too late and he didnt even block his front to deny the lings from running in. Add to that the fact that he an idle probe at the start of the game (when tastosis said the probe was spotting the ovi as a joke) and he lost like 3 workers (with 2 idle workers next to his nexus) to 1 slow ling.. wasn't pretty at all.

Yeah, its a real shame his nerves is showing like this because from watching his stream he is able to play a mean pvz for sure.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10358 Posts
September 19 2017 10:58 GMT
#91
On September 19 2017 19:55 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2017 19:53 FlaShFTW wrote:
On September 19 2017 19:51 Ej_ wrote:
On September 19 2017 19:49 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
(hero is the best Z atm from my understanding so definitely interested)

He isn't even in the top 4.

yeah i was about to say... snow literally made hero look like 2009-2010 jaedong lol.

Jaedong, Soulkey, Larva, Effort are all better zergs than hero right now. His ZvT is crap again, ZvZ is a coin flip, and his ZvP isn't even a sure win anymore against protoss.


what about Killer and Shine?

Killer doesn't have enough games for me to make a solidified judgement. if it was 2014-15 killer, then yes he would be better than current form hero.

Shine is another weird one, I think hes about even with hero. his bag of builds is great but overall his mechanics arent as good as heros.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 19 2017 10:58 GMT
#92
On September 19 2017 19:57 Arvendilin wrote:
Btw whatever happened to Zero?

Army service.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 19 2017 10:58 GMT
#93
Shuttle avenging Snow
The heart's eternal vow
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
September 19 2017 10:59 GMT
#94
On September 19 2017 19:58 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2017 19:57 Arvendilin wrote:
Btw whatever happened to Zero?

Army service.

Ahh too bad, hope he will be back soon, his games were always super fucking fun! :D
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 19 2017 10:59 GMT
#95
At least hero not expanding to the front natural like Where did.
The heart's eternal vow
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 19 2017 11:01 GMT
#96
lol hero
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 19 2017 11:03 GMT
#97
Looks like hero's dead.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 19 2017 11:05 GMT
#98
Hero reclaiming his back base again and going Spire.

Shuttle will counter it with 2 star corsairs
The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 19 2017 11:06 GMT
#99
supplies 34 v 71
The heart's eternal vow
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-19 11:09:38
September 19 2017 11:08 GMT
#100
Man Corsairs are a pain in the A$$

Great win for Shuttle though. I'm expecting great things from him in the Ro16.
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