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Silentenigma
Turkey2037 Posts
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NoS-Craig
Australia3093 Posts
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3999 Posts
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Zealgoon
China187 Posts
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TT1
Canada10000 Posts
On September 19 2017 20:50 Silentenigma wrote: I hate 3 hatch hydra bust.So hard to stop, impossible to scout initial probe has to stay in z's main, at the very least u need a probe out on the map to scout what theyre making out of their hatches | ||
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traxamillion
104 Posts
The bust is stronger vs gate 1st than forge. I think forge 1st is a better open tbh | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10126 Posts
On September 19 2017 20:52 Zealgoon wrote: LOL, FlashFTW got 5/5 with his predictions again :o im the prophet. you mere mortals know nothing. | ||
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TT1
Canada10000 Posts
On September 19 2017 20:53 traxamillion wrote: Well that is why the made a map like gold rush so p can always scout. Toss can also leave a random probe on the map and bring it to the nat/3rd and check the composition after the zealots get pushed back. The bust is stronger vs gate 1st than forge. I think forge 1st is a better open tbh i think its better vs forge because z has a weaker eco if p goes 1 gate zeal harass. theyre more committed to the hydra attack, harder to transition out of it. | ||
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ortseam
996 Posts
On September 19 2017 20:52 TT1 wrote: initial probe has to stay in z's main, at the very least u need a probe out on the map to scout what theyre making out of their hatches You can't scout it with probe, zerg gets speed first against gate expand | ||
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TT1
Canada10000 Posts
On September 19 2017 20:57 ortseam wrote: You can't scout it with probe, zerg gets speed first against gate expand you can check for z's lair timing (if you keep your probe inside their main) and speed timing | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13004 Posts
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
On September 19 2017 20:57 ortseam wrote: You can't scout it with probe, zerg gets speed first against gate expand So what was Snows plan then? To hope Hero did not go hydra busts lol? What is the strength of going gate expand? | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1707 Posts
On September 19 2017 20:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: if that was serious then im sorry,that was not one scout pylon,u see it very often with proxy robot faster reaver harass etc,or just the gateways Yeah even w/no probe there, I think FBH knew it wasn't just a scout pylon. But seemed like he assumed it was a proxy robo since he was trying to get his turret perimeter up asap. Should have just scouted really... although by that time dragoons might have been containing him... | ||
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TT1
Canada10000 Posts
On September 19 2017 21:00 tanngard wrote: So what was Snows plan then? To hope Hero did not go hydra busts lol? What is the strength of going gate opening? zerg has to chase p's zeals with his lings which usually gives p the opportunity to sneak a probe in z's main for a rescout (assuming p's probe left z's main), which he didnt do. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10126 Posts
On September 19 2017 21:00 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote: Yeah even w/no probe there, I think FBH knew it wasn't just a scout pylon. But seemed like he assumed it was a proxy robo since he was trying to get his turret perimeter up asap. Should have just scouted really... although by that time dragoons might have been containing him... i guess. idk i feel like without seeing the probe anywhere near the pylon maybe he just thought that snow was building the robo at home. He definitely tried to meta game read Snow's reaver/carrier build although kinda weird to go mnm vs reaver if he thought thats what snow was going for anyways. | ||
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orvinreyes
577 Posts
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1707 Posts
On September 19 2017 21:02 FlaShFTW wrote: i guess. idk i feel like without seeing the probe anywhere near the pylon maybe he just thought that snow was building the robo at home. He definitely tried to meta game read Snow's reaver/carrier build although kinda weird to go mnm vs reaver if he thought thats what snow was going for anyways. Wasn't watching it closely enough to see when he committed to the bio build. My sense on a bio build / deep six though is that it should be ok vs reaver play. It's meant to hit hard and fast before protoss macro starts to kick in at a timing that couldn't have been hit if it were standard mech. Nevertheless, going bio on 3 bases was weird imo because it's almost like you no longer try to hit that timing | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On September 19 2017 21:00 tanngard wrote: So what was Snows plan then? To hope Hero did not go hydra busts lol? What is the strength of going gate expand? Snow's plan was to avoid zergs like always. | ||
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
On September 19 2017 21:01 TT1 wrote: zerg has to chase p's zeals with his lings which usually gives p the opportunity to sneak a probe in z's main for a rescout (assuming p's probe left z's main), which he didnt do. Thank you. This is what i thought too, but that leaves me perplexed as to why Snow did not immediately send a second probe when his initial one died and when his zealots was keeping the zerglings busy at the ramp. | ||
EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On September 19 2017 21:32 tanngard wrote: Thank you. This is what i thought too, but that leaves me perplexed as to why Snow did not immediately send a second probe when his initial one died and when his zealots was keeping the zerglings busy at the ramp. Protoss players have been failing to scout a lot over the last few months, not sure why. This was an ongoing thing during the last ASL too. | ||
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