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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 06 2007 18:27 GMT
#441
slided with a trick, not a normal slide @ organ.

TT looks like young nada
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
April 06 2007 18:27 GMT
#442
he used the "return cargo" zero collision scv thing

where you pick up a mineral then spam right click + C and scv will slide through units
UMS map pack http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50442
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 06 2007 18:28 GMT
#443
kespa folks talkin'
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 06 2007 18:28 GMT
#444
"He slided through my probes.. *CRYCRY* " ... -.-v
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
April 06 2007 18:29 GMT
#445
On April 07 2007 03:26 Organ wrote:
What do you mean under "glitched"?


Lets say you are playing TvP and you are terran and you have an SCV in protosses main. Suppose right before your SCV dies, you tell another SCV to mine P's minerals. It obvoiusly will go across the map, pass through whatever dragoon is blocking the ramp and check things out

However, suppose you WERENT scouting in protosses main and protoss blocked the ramp w/ 2 probes or a goon (as TT did in this game). There is a glitch where you can right shift+click a worker 20+ on a geyser, then right click anywhere on the map, and the SCV will pass through all units. Thus, it is possible to move past any block TT had at his ramp.

Some tournaments ban this, as it would be unfair for alot of "hidden" type strategies where you block your ramp w/ 1 dragoon and then DT/robo tech. Theoretically, the terran could simply shift+click right past that 1 dragoon and find out exactly what is up

sorry for the long winded post; i hope it clarifies all questions tho : ]
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
April 06 2007 18:29 GMT
#446
ah, never heard of that before :O
so i mine something and the press the C-key same time as i spam rightklick in my opponents base?
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
April 06 2007 18:30 GMT
#447
TT not only cheeses, he also asks for the win ).
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 06 2007 18:30 GMT
#448
Hm, when I watch starleague always something weird happen.. like disc, pause (pp) or a draw-.-^^ i enjoy it
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Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
April 06 2007 18:30 GMT
#449
question

if you are on the main ramp to a start position on blitz x, do you have vision of the minerals? IE, is it possible that go.go got his SCV partway up the ramp, and then right clicked on the bottom mineral patch to fly through ?
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
April 06 2007 18:31 GMT
#450
On April 07 2007 03:28 G.s)NarutO wrote:
"He slided through my probes.. *CRYCRY* " ... -.-v



it's a serious problem, if it was allowed i would probably do this every game because it makes it much harder to hide shit from terran (they don't even need vision of your main minerals to slide through... and now way you're going to stop it if you're fast teching robo or dt, you need like 3 goons and even then it gets some vision)

opponents sometimes complain though so i just do normal scouting... maybe if it was officially allowed in progames i'd do it anyhow though >:D (that's for your fucking hold lurkers)
UMS map pack http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50442
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
April 06 2007 18:31 GMT
#451
ok ty day, hmm it seems more like a bug and should be banned right?...
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
April 06 2007 18:31 GMT
#452
On April 07 2007 03:30 Organ wrote:
TT not only cheeses, he also asks for the win ).


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HILARIOUS!!!
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 06 2007 18:31 GMT
#453
On April 07 2007 03:30 Day[9] wrote:
question

if you are on the main ramp to a start position on blitz x, do you have vision of the minerals? IE, is it possible that go.go got his SCV partway up the ramp, and then right clicked on the bottom mineral patch to fly through ?


no! not unlike you are at the top of the ramp
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
April 06 2007 18:32 GMT
#454
On April 07 2007 03:29 Day[9] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2007 03:26 Organ wrote:
What do you mean under "glitched"?


Lets say you are playing TvP and you are terran and you have an SCV in protosses main. Suppose right before your SCV dies, you tell another SCV to mine P's minerals. It obvoiusly will go across the map, pass through whatever dragoon is blocking the ramp and check things out

However, suppose you WERENT scouting in protosses main and protoss blocked the ramp w/ 2 probes or a goon (as TT did in this game). There is a glitch where you can right shift+click a worker 20+ on a geyser, then right click anywhere on the map, and the SCV will pass through all units. Thus, it is possible to move past any block TT had at his ramp.

Some tournaments ban this, as it would be unfair for alot of "hidden" type strategies where you block your ramp w/ 1 dragoon and then DT/robo tech. Theoretically, the terran could simply shift+click right past that 1 dragoon and find out exactly what is up

sorry for the long winded post; i hope it clarifies all questions tho : ]

Thanks for explanation. Hmm.. many times i wondered how scv managed to get through my goons when they didn't see my minerals.. Now I see.
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
April 06 2007 18:32 GMT
#455
On April 07 2007 03:30 Day[9] wrote:
question

if you are on the main ramp to a start position on blitz x, do you have vision of the minerals? IE, is it possible that go.go got his SCV partway up the ramp, and then right clicked on the bottom mineral patch to fly through ?


no he definitely passed it by using the return cargo, it's not like peaks
UMS map pack http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50442
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-06 18:33:42
April 06 2007 18:32 GMT
#456
On April 07 2007 03:31 Locked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2007 03:28 G.s)NarutO wrote:
"He slided through my probes.. *CRYCRY* " ... -.-v



it's a serious problem, if it was allowed i would probably do this every game because it makes it much harder to hide shit from terran (they don't even need vision of your main minerals to slide through... and now way you're going to stop it if you're fast teching robo or dt, you need like 3 goons and even then it gets some vision)



opponents sometimes complain though so i just do normal scouting... maybe if it was officially allowed in progames i'd do it anyhow though >:D (that's for your fucking hold lurkers)


It was more irony of me sorry. But its allowed anyway T.T
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 06 2007 18:32 GMT
#457
if gogo did use the shift click, ever deserves to win
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
April 06 2007 18:32 GMT
#458
On April 07 2007 03:31 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2007 03:30 Day[9] wrote:
question

if you are on the main ramp to a start position on blitz x, do you have vision of the minerals? IE, is it possible that go.go got his SCV partway up the ramp, and then right clicked on the bottom mineral patch to fly through ?


no! not unlike you are at the top of the ramp


sorry, what did you mean by this?
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
April 06 2007 18:34 GMT
#459
On April 07 2007 03:30 Day[9] wrote:
question

if you are on the main ramp to a start position on blitz x, do you have vision of the minerals? IE, is it possible that go.go got his SCV partway up the ramp, and then right clicked on the bottom mineral patch to fly through ?


No the minerals are too far away, i've tried it
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
April 06 2007 18:34 GMT
#460
organ there are other ways to slide scvs too

like "stacking" a single scv using a gas geyser... i think that's more commonly banned though (because it uses the stack glitch), which is weird if this is allowed because it has pretty close to the same purpose
UMS map pack http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50442
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