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[VNSL] Semifinals #2: ZerO vs EffOrt - Page 12

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
January 18 2016 11:48 GMT
#221
On January 18 2016 20:46 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
Tastosis really brought a LOT of viewers to today's games. So glad to see > 40k viewers for a BW event. BW will never die.


well terror gets shit tons of korean viewers every time.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
January 18 2016 11:48 GMT
#222
On January 18 2016 20:44 GTR wrote:
Hopefully Bisu has patched the flaws that allowed hero to roll over him in the SSL finals.

This ^. I wonder who will be his practice partners.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
January 18 2016 11:49 GMT
#223
On January 18 2016 20:46 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
Tastosis really brought a LOT of viewers to today's games. So glad to see > 40k viewers for a BW event. BW will never die.

tbf most of the Terror's viewers only come to see his antics.
Michael Probu
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
January 18 2016 11:49 GMT
#224
On January 18 2016 20:48 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 20:44 GTR wrote:
Hopefully Bisu has patched the flaws that allowed hero to roll over him in the SSL finals.

This ^. I wonder who will be his practice partners.


Flash's off race.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
January 18 2016 11:49 GMT
#225
On January 18 2016 20:43 B-royal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 20:24 EatingBomber wrote:
On January 18 2016 20:23 B-royal wrote:
On January 18 2016 20:10 Tiaraju9 wrote:
As a SC2 player I'm still waiting to be amazed. Hope it happens soon.


ZvZ definitely isn't close to being the best match-up for casuals like you. I would wait for the finals. However, if you're not impressed by mutalisk micro in brood war (compared to its total absence in sc2), I think you're a lost case anyway

Even in a Brood War tournament, BW fans still find the space to bash SC2. How nice.


Nah, I responded to him with the same insolent tone that he conveyed in his post.


I have to concede that my post was not innocent. But its hard to appreciate the intricacies of the game without having played it.
greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
January 18 2016 11:49 GMT
#226
On January 18 2016 20:40 EatingBomber wrote:
Why is the +1 Carapace emphasised? Is it to neutralise the bounce effect? Wouldn't a +1 Attack be better since it affects all Mutalisk, rather than +1 Carapace which affects only the Mutalisk being attacked and 2 others?

It is indeed to reduce the damage of the bouncing glaive. And it is more effective than going +1 attack.

From Liquipedia
Upgrades are a difficult part of Zerg play. First off, in Mutalisk versus Mutalisk battles, Carapace is always the best upgrade to get. If you can afford it, three carapace upgrades before any attack upgrades is preferred. When a Mutalisk fires, its damage is divided by 3 every bounce. So the first hit would do 9 damage, then bounce to another target and do 3 damage to that target, bounce and do 1, etc.. When you upgrade attack, this becomes 10, 3.33, 1.11, essentially an increase of 1.44 damage; however, when fighting an opponent who instead upgraded carapace, each of those hits gets reduced by 1, meaning it would become 9, 2.33, 0.11. The carapace-upgrade Mutalisks are taking 1.56 less damage per attack. If you don't understand, upgrade carapace. Additionally, Scourge benefit from the carapace upgrade, allowing them to avoid dying from bounce damage while closing in. It should be mentioned that because damage is counted as either an integer or a half, the numbers won't work out exactly as mentioned above, but it was just to give an example.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Mutalisk_Harassment#Upgrades
z0r.de for your daily madness /// Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of men? The Shadow knows!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 18 2016 11:49 GMT
#227
On January 18 2016 20:44 GTR wrote:
Hopefully Bisu has patched the flaws that allowed hero to roll over him in the SSL finals.

Yeah. We need an epic finals. One for the ages.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
January 18 2016 11:49 GMT
#228
people forgetting Zero vs Sharp...
gogo Sharp beat that choker!!
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
January 18 2016 11:50 GMT
#229
Man, I was such a BW hard-out in 2011 after coming to it from SC2, and then I quit. I thought LOTV actually made the other game decent now, but even ZvZ is fucking sick compared to some SC2 shit.

If only my modem wasn't fucking shit here, otherwise I'd be all over iccup. Can't host :<<. And I'm too shit for Fish now.
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
January 18 2016 11:52 GMT
#230
On January 18 2016 20:49 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 20:43 B-royal wrote:
On January 18 2016 20:24 EatingBomber wrote:
On January 18 2016 20:23 B-royal wrote:
On January 18 2016 20:10 Tiaraju9 wrote:
As a SC2 player I'm still waiting to be amazed. Hope it happens soon.


ZvZ definitely isn't close to being the best match-up for casuals like you. I would wait for the finals. However, if you're not impressed by mutalisk micro in brood war (compared to its total absence in sc2), I think you're a lost case anyway

Even in a Brood War tournament, BW fans still find the space to bash SC2. How nice.


Nah, I responded to him with the same insolent tone that he conveyed in his post.


I have to concede that my post was not innocent. But its hard to appreciate the intricacies of the game without having played it.

now this is more like it! Yeah, it is impossible to see what's so special about muta micro without knowing the details. 2 blobs flying around and half the time they even fail to attack each other - big deal. To me the best thing about ZvZ is the tension, every move matters, every drone counts and there's always potential for sick micro based comebacks.
Michael Probu
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5203 Posts
January 18 2016 11:52 GMT
#231
On January 18 2016 20:48 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 20:44 GTR wrote:
Hopefully Bisu has patched the flaws that allowed hero to roll over him in the SSL finals.

This ^. I wonder who will be his practice partners.

I'd say Bisu will have at least Larva and ZerO
And EffOrt will have Movie guaranteed.
FBH #1!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 18 2016 11:53 GMT
#232
On January 18 2016 20:50 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
Man, I was such a BW hard-out in 2011 after coming to it from SC2, and then I quit. I thought LOTV actually made the other game decent now, but even ZvZ is fucking sick compared to some SC2 shit.

If only my modem wasn't fucking shit here, otherwise I'd be all over iccup. Can't host :<<. And I'm too shit for Fish now.

Have you tried this? mca64 Launcher
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 18 2016 11:53 GMT
#233
Yooo, Big shoutout to the 40 viewers that tuned in for me and BD's cast. We love you guys <3
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
January 18 2016 11:54 GMT
#234
On January 18 2016 20:53 amazingxkcd wrote:
Yooo, Big shoutout to the 40 viewers that tuned in for me and BD's cast. We love you guys <3


your peak was 46 today.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 18 2016 11:54 GMT
#235
On January 18 2016 20:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 20:53 amazingxkcd wrote:
Yooo, Big shoutout to the 40 viewers that tuned in for me and BD's cast. We love you guys <3


your peak was 46 today.


\o/
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5203 Posts
January 18 2016 11:55 GMT
#236
EffOrt has a PvZ coming up tomorrow btw! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/501595-41-sl4-ro32-group-h
FBH #1!
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4186 Posts
January 18 2016 11:55 GMT
#237
On January 18 2016 20:53 amazingxkcd wrote:
Yooo, Big shoutout to the 40 viewers that tuned in for me and BD's cast. We love you guys <3

Yo! I chose the in-studio production over you guys, but I'll for sure listen to the cast later, you and BD have good banter I listen to while working. I'm hoping there's a rant on the disappointing status of NA CS:GO.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 18 2016 11:58 GMT
#238
On January 18 2016 20:54 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 20:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 18 2016 20:53 amazingxkcd wrote:
Yooo, Big shoutout to the 40 viewers that tuned in for me and BD's cast. We love you guys <3


your peak was 46 today.


\o/

It would have been 47 if it worked on livestreamer :/
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
January 18 2016 11:59 GMT
#239
On January 18 2016 20:54 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 20:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 18 2016 20:53 amazingxkcd wrote:
Yooo, Big shoutout to the 40 viewers that tuned in for me and BD's cast. We love you guys <3


your peak was 46 today.


\o/


You guys rock!
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
January 18 2016 12:01 GMT
#240
On January 18 2016 20:58 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 20:54 amazingxkcd wrote:
On January 18 2016 20:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 18 2016 20:53 amazingxkcd wrote:
Yooo, Big shoutout to the 40 viewers that tuned in for me and BD's cast. We love you guys <3


your peak was 46 today.


\o/

It would have been 47 if it worked on livestreamer :/


livestreamer doesn't add viewer count.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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