EPTOSL Semifinal #1 - Page 33
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On February 14 2007 05:33 1tym wrote: Do you guys pronounce Casy as K C or cassie? kc. like casey. haha. like..case-ee. | ||
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_Grazze_
834 Posts
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
On February 14 2007 05:29 CTStalker wrote: Agreed with GI's post, also, it's absurd to say that one player was lucky to draw a particular map in a mirror matchup. The implied advantage here stems not from luck, but from skill if this map played such a decisive role. Style. Even mirrors have style. Certain maps bring out the best in certain players. Arkanoid, as we all know, is a very slow map. There are buildings in the way, lots of terrain that is easily and passively defended, many easy siege and stay spots, and despite that, Casy managed to exploit the terrain to his style, and was that cross wall siege a cool arkanoid first or what? Even after 2 seasons, I'm glad the semis showed me a new trick on Arkanoid, even though the map sucks. The map had more to offer a player like Nada than Casy. | ||
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WhatisProtoss
Korea (South)2325 Posts
On February 14 2007 05:16 MaGic~PhiL wrote: Art Out of your mouth the sentence : Stop being bitter and twisting things. Im really laughing my ass of right now. The guy who says Casy was better, NaDa was lucky, Casy deserved to win. Casy understand TvT better than Nada, THe guy who said Nadas strategic skills are bad compared to casys, the guy who basicaly cant accept NaDa > Casy in this series and almost pretends as if Casy won the series says this sentence. This is pure sarcasm i guess.. ^^ Orome occasionally makes some bad statements. It's all a part of being young and 17, or something like that. But I think we can all admit that most of us are hypocrites and say things out of frustration or fanaticism. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On February 14 2007 05:33 Orome wrote: If Federer played Nadal on a randomly chosen surface, would Nadal not be lucky if sand was the picked one? It's clay, not sand; moreover, Federer and Nadal's styles are so different that it is as if they are playing different Starcraft races. Casy and NaDa's styles differ in very small aspects; overall, they still build tanks and goliaths and vultures. Federer and Nadal is like the difference between GoRush and Boxer - two completely different players that the map/surface affects in two different ways. The analogy might hold if you asked what would it be like if Nadal played Moya on clay or grass; but in that situation, it is still much more the player than the surface. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13038 Posts
Better than Boxer vs Yellow. | ||
KizZBG
u gotta skate8152 Posts
 He wins once again, the damn bugger just wont die. Congrats Nada you can kiss your ass goodbye right now.  | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
-_-;; Bad analogy. I try to understand my point, but I think you do not understand the impact maps have on stylistic players, especially such a strong defensive map like Arkanoid, obviously, favors a more defensive player. | ||
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polarwolf
924 Posts
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WhatisProtoss
Korea (South)2325 Posts
NaDa won. Losers have no words to say. The only things that are possible are past statistics or excuses or placing the blame on "luck". The winner only has to state: "I have won. That is final." GG NaDa | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On February 14 2007 05:35 GrandInquisitor wrote: It's clay, not sand; moreover, Federer and Nadal's styles are so different that it is as if they are playing different Starcraft races. Casy and NaDa's styles differ in very small aspects; overall, they still build tanks and goliaths and vultures. Federer and Nadal is like the difference between GoRush and Boxer - two completely different players that the map/surface affects in two different ways. The analogy might hold if you asked what would it be like if Nadal played Moya on clay or grass; but in that situation, it is still much more the player than the surface. Casy's and Nada's styles differ a lot. If you don't realize that, I don't think you can talk. Aren't you the one who's never watched a live game or vod? | ||
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Totoro
France479 Posts
Nada played better TvT than Casy overall? We cant say that today. But what matters is to win when it is important. THAT is great champions's trademark. Nada sure is a great champion and i hope Casy will too. | ||
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On February 14 2007 05:37 SuperJongMan wrote: Federer and Nadal do fores and backs. -_-;; Bad analogy. I try to understand my point, but I think you do not understand the impact maps have on stylistic players, especially such a strong defensive map like Arkanoid, obviously, favors a more defensive player. And Boxer and GoRush both build workers. They're called the same thing but are in reality completely different. Federer slices and wants his balls to skid on the slippery grass; Nadal relies on topspin and wants his balls to bite into the tough clay and pop up. Just as there are 3 styles of Starcraft play (T, P, Z) and substyles within each (Tornado Terran, Sauron Zerg), there are 3 main styles of tennis play (baseline, allaround, and serve/volley) and substyles within each (slice serve/volley style, big serve baseline). Maps and surfaces affect the main styles to a huge degree; but substyles much less so. | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On February 14 2007 05:35 WhatisProtoss wrote: Orome occasionally makes some bad statements. It's all a part of being young and 17, or something like that. But I think we can all admit that most of us are hypocrites and say things out of frustration or fanaticism. Is this just intended to be a personal attack on me? You might notice I'm not alone with my opinion, and that the people who know what they're talking about, Day and Steve, agree with me. | ||
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On February 14 2007 05:38 Orome wrote: Casy's and Nada's styles differ a lot. If you don't realize that, I don't think you can talk. Aren't you the one who's never watched a live game or vod? Is this just intended to be a personal attack on me? I watched today's games, and was under the impression we were talking about whose TvT was better today as opposed to historically. And honestly, you think the difference between casy and nada is comparable to the difference between federer and nadal? | ||
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berated-
United States1134 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On February 14 2007 05:42 GrandInquisitor wrote: Is this just intended to be a personal attack on me? I watched today's games, and was under the impression we were talking about whose TvT was better today as opposed to historically. And honestly, you think the difference between casy and nada is comparable to the difference between federer and nadal? Not quite as big, but big enough for Arkanoid twice to favour Nada. Edit: I'm not blaming Arkanoid twice for Casy's loss btw. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
This was a great series, tvt gods battling it out. Nada maybe showed a tad more experience or sense for winning. Both would have been worthy opponents for savior. | ||
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On February 14 2007 05:45 Orome wrote: Not quite as big, but big enough for Arkanoid twice to favour Nada. The hallmark of a good player is being able to adapt in the face of pressure. Moreover, only NaDa's game 5 victory is directly attributable to the map. Casy went 2-2 otherwise, so it's hard to argue that adjusting for Arkanoid results in Casy playing better TvT than NaDa. | ||
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