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Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
February 13 2007 20:13 GMT
#621
the question is whether savior will make all this irrelevent or not

nada was so close to beating savior on arkanoid in the superfight, and the other maps are very pro-terran. who will win?

(obviously i am giving iris 0% odds of winning)
Memory lane in nice
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
February 13 2007 20:14 GMT
#622
If Nada plays a respectable series against Savior, he's definitely #2.

Stop being bitter and twisting things.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
February 13 2007 20:15 GMT
#623
What are you talking about?
This OSL is all Iris.
CJ! CJ! CJ!

CJ HWAITING.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-13 20:18:27
February 13 2007 20:16 GMT
#624
On February 14 2007 05:14 Orome wrote:
If Nada plays a respectable series against Savior, he's definitely #2.

Stop being bitter and twisting things.


Art
Out of your mouth the sentence : Stop being bitter and twisting things. Im really laughing my ass of right now. The guy who says Casy was better, NaDa was lucky, Casy deserved to win. Casy understand TvT better than Nada, THe guy who said Nadas strategic skills are bad compared to casys, the guy who basicaly cant accept NaDa > Casy in this series and almost pretends as if Casy won the series says this sentence. This is pure sarcasm i guess..

^^
hatred outlives the hateful
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
February 13 2007 20:18 GMT
#625
LOL . I can imagine what will happen if NaDa wins Saviour in the final.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-13 20:22:04
February 13 2007 20:20 GMT
#626
In the last game, Casy worked his magic, but couldn't outmacro Nada on 5 gas vs himself on 3


You say this as if the fates themselves conspired to put Nada on 5 gas to start off with and Casy 3. Who do you think was responsible for NaDa holding onto 5 gas while Casy only had 3?

Honestly, all of you guys are being blinded by fanboyism. Not just MagicPhil, but Orome and Day too. Casy won 2/3 of the games that made it to midlate game, but that's only because he sucked hard in game 2 and couldn't even make it to a level midgame. NaDa won 2/3 of his games based on his early aggression, something that only proves that he is a better microer and simply better decisionmaker early game. And please don't say "Well NaDa won game 2 only because Casy sucked, and Casy won game 4 when Nada played well." That sounds like something out of the mouth of a shitty USEast pub.

NaDa played better game 1 & 2 (Casy definitely could have defended better game 1 and microed better game 2); Casy played better game 3 & 4; NaDa played better game 5. That's all there is to it. Drawing comparisons between games and extrapolating performances is silly and meaningless. Especially in TvT, where minute little things have such huge ramifications later in the game, it's hard to compare these performances and you can twist it any way you want and provide a million different interpretations.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
February 13 2007 20:20 GMT
#627
On February 14 2007 05:11 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
So u said i got fanboyish and too emotional. So again the question arises : Are u some kind of magician who can see me now typing this ? DO you have any clue which expression im having on my face while writing this ? Do you really think i get angry or mad if someone writes an other opinion than i do ? Im not emotional at all, i m just stating some opinions.


Read your posts on the last few pages again, you get sarcastic, instead of arguing back you start to exaggerate what I'm saying.

Anyway, I'm through arguing with you, you do not even make an effort to actually argue about the games in detail, your argument is confined mostly to 'Nada won, so he must be the better player'.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
February 13 2007 20:20 GMT
#628
If you are gonna argue, do it straight and don't attack the character or distort things.
Think of what the PR is, how players are ranked, and why his statement that Nada can become #2 is not stupid given his information.

There are so many thoughts in between you are missing just to slam the dude...

I believe in forum language they call it trolling or ogreing or somethign and it's considered assinine.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
February 13 2007 20:21 GMT
#629

If NaDa wins vs Savior in the finals , then it was Savior wanting to put NaDa at 4 OSL titles, because they are good buddies, after all..


PhiL
edit : 2000 D:
hatred outlives the hateful
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 13 2007 20:22 GMT
#630
On February 14 2007 05:16 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2007 05:14 Orome wrote:
If Nada plays a respectable series against Savior, he's definitely #2.

Stop being bitter and twisting things.


Art
Out of your mouth the sentence : Stop being bitter and twisting things. Im really laughing my ass of right now. The guy who says Casy was better, NaDa was lucky, Casy deserved to win. Casy understand TvT better than Nada, THe guy who said Nadas strategic skills are bad compared to casys, the guy who basicaly cant accept NaDa > Casy in this series and almost pretends as if Casy won the series says this sentence. This is pure sarcasm i guess..

^^


....Casy IS better at TvT

this was a great series but he's pretty much right, Nada got build order lucky on Arkanoid in game 1, outmicrod Casy in game 2 with a surprise attack. Game 3, Casy made the most of a dire situation and pulled out a win through overall superior play. Game 4, Casy absolutely destroyed Nada in every sense of the word. Game 5 was a close battle, but Casy is not as good at expo timing on Arkanoid as Nada is.

It's completely fair to say that Nada's win was made easier by having Arkanoid twice, and its completely fair to say Casy's TvT is better, because it is. Both players played exceedingly well in this series, but that doesn't make certain truths untrue.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
1tym
Profile Joined April 2005
Korea (South)2425 Posts
February 13 2007 20:22 GMT
#631
Nada >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Casy in every aspect.

1. achievement
2. skill
3. looks ( Not sure about this one actually)
4. teeth
5. height
6. number of fans
7. salary
8. personality
9. sex

Losers remain silent.

FIN
1tym is one time for your mind
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 13 2007 20:22 GMT
#632
NADA WE LOVE YOU!
I NEVER DOUBT ABOUT YOUR WIN!!

But... please! Next time do 3-0... and don't give me a heartattack 3-2 T.T!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
February 13 2007 20:23 GMT
#633
On February 14 2007 05:18 mdb wrote:
LOL . I can imagine what will happen if NaDa wins Saviour in the final.

He'll have 4 badges.
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 13 2007 20:24 GMT
#634
On February 14 2007 05:22 1tym wrote:
4. teeth
5. height


hahahaha
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
February 13 2007 20:25 GMT
#635
On February 14 2007 05:22 1tym wrote:
Nada >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Casy in every aspect.

1. achievement
2. skill
3. looks ( Not sure about this one actually)
4. teeth
5. height
6. number of fans
7. salary
8. personality
9. sex

Losers remain silent.

FIN


Hahaha, Casy fans got owned T.T
#2 is arguable, but at best, we win 2 out of 9 -_-;;
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-13 20:30:58
February 13 2007 20:25 GMT
#636
On February 14 2007 05:22 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2007 05:16 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
On February 14 2007 05:14 Orome wrote:
If Nada plays a respectable series against Savior, he's definitely #2.

Stop being bitter and twisting things.


Art
Out of your mouth the sentence : Stop being bitter and twisting things. Im really laughing my ass of right now. The guy who says Casy was better, NaDa was lucky, Casy deserved to win. Casy understand TvT better than Nada, THe guy who said Nadas strategic skills are bad compared to casys, the guy who basicaly cant accept NaDa > Casy in this series and almost pretends as if Casy won the series says this sentence. This is pure sarcasm i guess..

^^


....Casy IS better at TvT

this was a great series but he's pretty much right, Nada got build order lucky on Arkanoid in game 1, outmicrod Casy in game 2 with a surprise attack. Game 3, Casy made the most of a dire situation and pulled out a win through overall superior play. Game 4, Casy absolutely destroyed Nada in every sense of the word. Game 5 was a close battle, but Casy is not as good at expo timing on Arkanoid as Nada is.

It's completely fair to say that Nada's win was made easier by having Arkanoid twice, and its completely fair to say Casy's TvT is better, because it is. Both players played exceedingly well in this series, but that doesn't make certain truths untrue.


The ability to end a game quickly shouldn't reflect poorly upon a person's TvT skill.

Maybe you can say that Casy's TvT appeared to be more impressive than that of NaDa's, but there is no real basis to say that Casy's TvT is better based on today's games - and a little unfair to NaDa, who after all won the TvT series.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
February 13 2007 20:26 GMT
#637
Hey Orome i never said NaDa is the better player. But NaDa was just the better player in this bo5 series otherwise he obviously wouldnt have won, would he ?

And i dont really care , if NaDa won it or if Casy lost it , because u can always say it wasnt the skills of the guy who won, but the faults of the guy who lost. If just find it ridicolous that u basicaly say im not bringing any facts, while you are making statements which are just totally unproven and strange..

Like saying Casy understand TvT better than NaDa ( plz explain me how u come to that conclusion)

Nadas strategic skills are not as good as Cas'ys ( plz explain me how u come to that conclusion)

I will stop posting any sarcastic statements as soon as u provide me with answer that at least show some contet of truth, because i know u cant really answer these statements , because they are simply not true and IF , then no one could ever now except god.
hatred outlives the hateful
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
February 13 2007 20:29 GMT
#638
Agreed with GI's post, also, it's absurd to say that one player was lucky to draw a particular map in a mirror matchup. The implied advantage here stems not from luck, but from skill if this map played such a decisive role.
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
sephiroth85
Profile Joined January 2007
New Zealand87 Posts
February 13 2007 20:31 GMT
#639
honestly throughout the match, i thought casy played better.. decision wise.. da positioning of tanks an timing of attacks.. seriously u cant argue with that.. nada's initial swarm of wraiths didn even touch casy's dropships until they finished unloading all the units.. (i'm talking about the final match here..) but in the end, nada proves why it is him that is worthy of being in the final.. i know most of you think casy's strategy was better but there goes a saying, "good offence wins the crowd, while good defence wins the game.." so yea.. hardluck casy.. you were my favourite terran pgmer by far this season but better luck next time i guess..
What is difference between ignorance and apathy?? i dont know and i dont care..
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
February 13 2007 20:33 GMT
#640
On February 14 2007 05:29 CTStalker wrote:
Agreed with GI's post, also, it's absurd to say that one player was lucky to draw a particular map in a mirror matchup. The implied advantage here stems not from luck, but from skill if this map played such a decisive role.


If Federer played Nadal on a randomly chosen surface, would Nadal not be lucky if sand was the picked one?
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
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