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yuzix
Profile Joined July 2015
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-30 06:06:36
October 30 2015 06:03 GMT
#221
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
October 30 2015 06:03 GMT
#222
On October 30 2015 03:20 Shimy wrote:
Team Bureaucracy is looking for players! If anyone is interested, be sure to sign up.

EDIT: + Show Spoiler +
Name is still subject to change too

go WWE and become The Corporation or The Authority.

And of course Shimy's iccup name ought to be Vince or else McMahon.
ModeratorWake me up when Trump's term is finished. Slava Ukraini.
yuzix
Profile Joined July 2015
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-30 06:03:59
October 30 2015 06:03 GMT
#223
(Wiki)
yuzix
Profile Joined July 2015
4 Posts
October 30 2015 06:04 GMT
#224
On October 30 2015 15:03 yuzix wrote:
Name: samsung865
Race(define if Race Picker):TERRAN
Max iCCup Rank: C+
Country: South Korea

Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
October 30 2015 06:14 GMT
#225
You got it the first time.
ModeratorWake me up when Trump's term is finished. Slava Ukraini.
SWAT-Kat
Profile Joined July 2011
United States311 Posts
October 30 2015 15:10 GMT
#226
On October 30 2015 03:18 Shimy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2015 00:25 SWAT-Kat wrote:
Please add

us zs-Adun

to Rising C's.

Thank you!

---- EDIT ----

We would like to officially make our team name WeMadeC. Please also add

us evilEye

to our roster.

Thanks again!


If you guys add players, can you please make a new post? Edits don't update the thread and it's difficult for me to go back and check every post to see if people have edited it.


Sorry about that. And speaking of adding players, please add

mx Master_soul

to WeMadeC. Thank you again!
Siz)Beggar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States339 Posts
October 30 2015 17:05 GMT
#227
Sign me up as a free agent.

Name: Talent
Race(define if Race Picker): Toss
Max iCCup Rank: C+
Country: USA

Want to play working on getting internet and stable setup to play at school
Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
October 30 2015 18:17 GMT
#228
People were joking before about allowing Nina to play in this because she'd dominate, but now there's plenty of players better than her who've signed up. Even Talent playing doesn't seem unfair now, but if he signed up weeks ago it would have been ridiculous.
<3 FlaSh HiyA Stats HoeJJa
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
October 30 2015 19:19 GMT
#229
On October 31 2015 03:17 Sero wrote:
People were joking before about allowing Nina to play in this because she'd dominate, but now there's plenty of players better than her who've signed up. Even Talent playing doesn't seem unfair now, but if he signed up weeks ago it would have been ridiculous.

It seems slightly unfair, but I mean...

+ Show Spoiler +
Actually, I've got nothing, + Show Spoiler +
our team is going to get demolished.


That's fine though.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Shimy
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States771 Posts
October 31 2015 00:40 GMT
#230
On October 31 2015 03:17 Sero wrote:
People were joking before about allowing Nina to play in this because she'd dominate, but now there's plenty of players better than her who've signed up. Even Talent playing doesn't seem unfair now, but if he signed up weeks ago it would have been ridiculous.

The league was never made for specifically D ranks, that was obvious from the get go. I just made a tournament for lower ranked people and it turned out most of the interested audience was C ranks. The format being decided upon will not reward teams that have only C ranks. People may whine about who gets to play and who doesn't, but the only outcomes are:

1) Only D rankers: Maybe 3 teams sign up?
2) D ranks and C ranks: Our current position
3) All ranks: Who the heck knows. It would be so one sided it wouldn't even be worth organizing.

@Siz)Beggar Didn't you reach B- back in the day?

@Team Sexy Gladiators http://iccup.com/en/starcraft/gamingprofile/MX[raGe].html mx[rage] and
http://iccup.com/en/starcraft/gamingprofile/Eptenax.html Epetenax will not be able to play in the tournament. You may have signed them up as coaches or coordinators,I just wanted to be sure that everyone was on the same page.

@samsung865 Just being completely honest here, your iCCup account seems really sketchy. Also the fact that you posted from a 4 post account. Anyway, we're just double checking your status.

@Everyone The format will be posted tomorrow after we finalize some things. I'm having help from the amazing ggrrg so that things will be as balanced as possible. Teams that have 1 or 2 D rankers, I'm giving you a fair and final warning: Recruit more D ranks or you will receive a W.O. in that tier.

Eywa-: "What would it take in order for there to be an upset?" Largo: "The players of sas got cancer and died, what else could happen?"
Shimy
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States771 Posts
October 31 2015 00:44 GMT
#231
On October 31 2015 04:19 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2015 03:17 Sero wrote:
People were joking before about allowing Nina to play in this because she'd dominate, but now there's plenty of players better than her who've signed up. Even Talent playing doesn't seem unfair now, but if he signed up weeks ago it would have been ridiculous.

It seems slightly unfair, but I mean...

+ Show Spoiler +
Actually, I've got nothing, + Show Spoiler +
our team is going to get demolished.


That's fine though.

It's only because no one on our team is recruiting anyone. We just need two decent C ranks and we're solid.
Eywa-: "What would it take in order for there to be an upset?" Largo: "The players of sas got cancer and died, what else could happen?"
Siz)Beggar
Profile Joined May 2008
United States339 Posts
October 31 2015 02:28 GMT
#232
No I haven't hit b- on iccup I mostly played on Korean servers brain/fish
iCCup.JiN
Profile Joined July 2014
Russian Federation51 Posts
October 31 2015 09:22 GMT
#233
Shimy its just after new ladder sistemy all ranks up after season 36 because C ranks(C-CC+) have vs D rank(D-DD+) +97 on motw many player get A-B ranks only vs D :D So what we will ban active players ?
Eptenax C- and C only in season 20 and MX C+ in 24 season its Yellow ranks man ;o
okee
iCCup.JiN
Profile Joined July 2014
Russian Federation51 Posts
October 31 2015 09:40 GMT
#234
look Eptenax match list games vs D/C- users http://iccup.com/en/starcraft/matchlist/583826/1x1.html same MX only 1 macro game vs C ranks win http://iccup.com/en/starcraft/matchlist/3278996/1x1.html

okee
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3408 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-31 11:54:06
October 31 2015 10:51 GMT
#235
Are you forgetting to include this profile that is B- now?

http://iccup.com/en/starcraft/gamingprofile/Art_Of_Eptenax.html (B- on Oct 10th which is 4 days before Shimy opened this thread)

Also, another player that you put as 'C': msj[clickmer] was B- a few seasons back.

http://iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/[SC1f]ClickMer.html [copy and paste url to make it work]

That's 3 different people in your team that you added that you 'claim' are C+ or lower...

김택용 Fighting!
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-31 16:25:59
October 31 2015 15:02 GMT
#236
On October 31 2015 11:28 Siz)Beggar wrote:
No I haven't hit b- on iccup I mostly played on Korean servers brain/fish


whats your max on fish then? I recall you as strong player from 2009 or so, confused to see you sign up here tbh. Maybe my memory doesn't serve me well though.
Broodwar for life!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10396 Posts
October 31 2015 17:20 GMT
#237
On October 31 2015 18:22 iCCup.JiN wrote:
Shimy its just after new ladder sistemy all ranks up after season 36 because C ranks(C-CC+) have vs D rank(D-DD+) +97 on motw many player get A-B ranks only vs D :D So what we will ban active players ?
Eptenax C- and C only in season 20 and MX C+ in 24 season its Yellow ranks man ;o

So you're saying the rule should be "Never hit B until season 36, ranks after that don't matter" ?

What's the point of rank constraints? What's the point of the new ICCup system at all then?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
October 31 2015 17:30 GMT
#238
On November 01 2015 02:20 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2015 18:22 iCCup.JiN wrote:
Shimy its just after new ladder sistemy all ranks up after season 36 because C ranks(C-CC+) have vs D rank(D-DD+) +97 on motw many player get A-B ranks only vs D :D So what we will ban active players ?
Eptenax C- and C only in season 20 and MX C+ in 24 season its Yellow ranks man ;o

So you're saying the rule should be "Never hit B until season 36, ranks after that don't matter" ?

What's the point of rank constraints? What's the point of the new ICCup system at all then?

Yeah, after Season 36, ranks don't matter. The new iCCup system is to encourage a high number of games played on the server. You simply rank up by playing a lot of games, which no longer reflect skill level at all. D- and B+ are equivalent.
<3 FlaSh HiyA Stats HoeJJa
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3408 Posts
October 31 2015 17:48 GMT
#239
@Sero:

Some people might not be able to see the sarcasm lol
김택용 Fighting!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-31 17:56:30
October 31 2015 17:54 GMT
#240
On November 01 2015 02:30 Sero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2015 02:20 Jealous wrote:
On October 31 2015 18:22 iCCup.JiN wrote:
Shimy its just after new ladder sistemy all ranks up after season 36 because C ranks(C-CC+) have vs D rank(D-DD+) +97 on motw many player get A-B ranks only vs D :D So what we will ban active players ?
Eptenax C- and C only in season 20 and MX C+ in 24 season its Yellow ranks man ;o

So you're saying the rule should be "Never hit B until season 36, ranks after that don't matter" ?

What's the point of rank constraints? What's the point of the new ICCup system at all then?

Yeah, after Season 36, ranks don't matter. The new iCCup system is to encourage a high number of games played on the server. You simply rank up by playing a lot of games, which no longer reflect skill level at all. D- and B+ are equivalent.

Makes sense for raising activity. Decrease point losses, increase point gains, decrease ladder anxiety, increase player population.

Makes no sense for a competitive ranking system. Let's say I was C- back then and I am worse now but I play 100 games against D ranks, according to what I've heard I'll hit B-. But a person who was C- back then, improved to the point of being around B- by the old standards, they can play 50 games and also hit B- like they would have under the old system. This makes it impossible to differentiate between the two. The only real difference is activity level in the current seasons. Am I understanding this correctly?

If it's impossible to differentiate between former C- players who are still C- (by the old ranking) and C- players who are now B- players (again, by the old ranking), then rank restrictions have become irrelevant. People who might still qualify for the tournament based on skill are disallowed because they are active and have hit B-, people who would not qualify based on skill are allowed because they aren't active enough. I guess it's the same issue as in prior leagues, just with another wrench thrown in the works.

It just all seems so goddamn stupid :/

EDIT: @Yaqoob: If he was being sarcastic, I didn't get that impression. Hyperbole maybe (D- and B+ being equivalent, obviously an exaggeration). But the truth is the new system IS skewed, no? Ranks have been inflated? Even mishin hit C-.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
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