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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-22 02:15:16
July 22 2015 01:59 GMT
#181
On July 22 2015 10:55 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 08:57 BigFan wrote:
Guys, while I think it's great that you are trying to reach an understanding, please, let's try to stay civil. Nothing wrong with arguing so long as neither individual is hurling any kind of insult at the other

i think we are a bit past that given the above statements.

It's more of a preventive measure; to prevent it from accelerating since I'd rather not see some random poster who strolls by (lol) report them for player insult etc... Also, I've watched both players over the years and know that they are both skilled at starcraft so I figure they can learn from each other if they get along.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19307 Posts
July 22 2015 03:34 GMT
#182
5 years we have struggled since SC2 release. Brood war staff and brood war casters work many hours behind the scenes and live for all of you. There is no prize money at the end for what we do. Yet we pour hours upon hours for half a decade into maintaining a community. We also spent these past 4-6 months planning out something amazing. We will sacrifice weekends for hosting this tournament. Weekdays covering and hyping the ones to follow. Yet you guys complain about something small like this? One player will make you so bitter while no one considers the effort non players must put forward to even make this happen. What if we gave up after all these years? We didn't! And now it's your turn to buck up and play the best damn game out there. It's not about money, it's about playing your best game. Please sign up, practice, and enjoy this because that is the greatest gift you can give us after all these years.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
July 22 2015 04:36 GMT
#183
On December 09 2013 03:43 sas.Sziky wrote:
yes eon can play 10 hours/ day not everyone. and what u think why cant see this format another tours?(1000years) only this and defiler(GJ) and defiler not problem?good joke all time problem its a long(very bad) I gave up, I can not give yours Estonian good start this tour how much wo heres up to now? idk but here +1 take w.o ace im cant play this is gl.


Guys, don't be a bunch of Estonians.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
July 22 2015 04:39 GMT
#184
Man up and let him play. If he lags like crazy, ban him (like you would anyone else). It's that simple. When any other foreigner was in Korea they were allowed to participate in foreign tournaments. I don't know much about Scan but from what I've gathered from reading here, I would consider Scan as much of a foreigner as a Korean can get... something along the lines of a SC1 version of Polt.

The majority of people who seem to actually care about this are the ones who think they can win some $ and see him as a threat. It's only $50 people... this is just a fun event and should be treated as such. Let the guy play and have fun like everyone else. If he takes the $50... who really cares..? If $50 is going to make or brake you, you probably should be focused on getting a job rather than Starcraft.
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1203 Posts
July 22 2015 05:16 GMT
#185
On July 22 2015 13:39 G5 wrote:
Man up and let him play. If he lags like crazy, ban him (like you would anyone else). It's that simple. When any other foreigner was in Korea they were allowed to participate in foreign tournaments. I don't know much about Scan but from what I've gathered from reading here, I would consider Scan as much of a foreigner as a Korean can get... something along the lines of a SC1 version of Polt.

The majority of people who seem to actually care about this are the ones who think they can win some $ and see him as a threat. It's only $50 people... this is just a fun event and should be treated as such. Let the guy play and have fun like everyone else. If he takes the $50... who really cares..? If $50 is going to make or brake you, you probably should be focused on getting a job rather than Starcraft.

G5 hype return?
Flash should fear Sacsri
idegelchik
Profile Joined September 2012
Russian Federation382 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-22 06:11:23
July 22 2015 05:26 GMT
#186
trash talks [image loading] kimchi vs scan vs sziky vs Estonia
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
July 22 2015 06:28 GMT
#187
On July 22 2015 14:26 idegelchik wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

trash talks [image loading] kimchi vs scan vs sziky vs Estonia


Even if you get warned, it will have been worth it.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-22 08:40:10
July 22 2015 08:20 GMT
#188
I suggest you award the winner with 2nd place and see what Scan has to say about it. Because that's how foreigners feel when going into a tournament against Scan - they can't beat him realistically. Basically what Wallce said is what it's about. As regards Scan's remarks, they're cute and all (especially comparing his classes with Sziky busting his ass off as a woodcutter), but what's with this then? http://maxgosu.blogspot.de/2011/05/interwiev-with-lastscan-by-iccupcom.html
Of course he's korean when it comes to playing Starcraft and of course it pisses many people off, seeing as how he collects ez money from all foreigner tournaments. Like this one: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Defiler_Tour_70
Yeah that's real exciting to watch, 2-0 everyone. Sometimes he would lose a game or two choosing non-main race. Which is considered bm by the tournament admin because Scan usually rapes everyone regardless of that.
Michael Probu
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
July 22 2015 08:58 GMT
#189
Yoda considers off racing as BM?

Again, it shouldn't be about what the viewers want. They don't play. Even if it was, what makes you think that a somewhat one sided TvZ is "more" boring than a series of ZvZ starting with the Semis? Because that's what you usally get if you have Bo1 until Ro8 and with the current scene - see most of the tournaments so far.

Pissing me off would be a class of players who can only be lured into playing due to money, see G5's post. I'd love more people with the attitude of a Lancerx, who play w/e the circumstances are. It's not like half of the players complaining in here wouldn't sign up either way, it's very few who just don't want to post: "I got old and moved on". That happens, it's not bad at all, but save yourself some dignity and say it. Making it sound as if it's either Scan's, Brain's or the organizer's fault you're not that motivated anymore is just ridiculous and at some level insulting the work these put into this project. I wonder if 2pac et al. already regret trying to come up with that series. Stop being a negative nancy and start having fun. I mean seriously, this thread became a joke, we even get Eywa giving lectures of organizing. This. has. to. stop.
BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria490 Posts
July 22 2015 09:26 GMT
#190
On July 22 2015 12:34 BisuDagger wrote:
5 years we have struggled since SC2 release. Brood war staff and brood war casters work many hours behind the scenes and live for all of you. There is no prize money at the end for what we do. Yet we pour hours upon hours for half a decade into maintaining a community. We also spent these past 4-6 months planning out something amazing. We will sacrifice weekends for hosting this tournament. Weekdays covering and hyping the ones to follow. Yet you guys complain about something small like this? One player will make you so bitter while no one considers the effort non players must put forward to even make this happen. What if we gave up after all these years? We didn't! And now it's your turn to buck up and play the best damn game out there. It's not about money, it's about playing your best game. Please sign up, practice, and enjoy this because that is the greatest gift you can give us after all these years.



Actually this is a pretty good point.
music is the best thing in the world
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
July 22 2015 09:49 GMT
#191
Hype!

Joining for #2, can't play this weekend :X


iNs Fighting! (monkey)

Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
neteX
Profile Joined April 2015
Sweden285 Posts
July 22 2015 09:58 GMT
#192
what's all this fuss about? Let scan play ffs. People are just scared of him winning the entire tournament. I'm also playing so yeh
http://www.twitter.com/neteXLoL flw pls
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
July 22 2015 10:05 GMT
#193
I get what you're saying GeckoXp. Is it Scan's fault? Of course not. He should just say "you're all easy mode but I don't care, let me win anyway", instead of pretending to be a legit foreigner. While owning Savior in 2v2 tournaments and being a sparring partner for active progamers to help them out with SSL.
Michael Probu
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-22 12:30:43
July 22 2015 12:23 GMT
#194
On July 22 2015 17:58 GeckoXp wrote:
Yoda considers off racing as BM?

Again, it shouldn't be about what the viewers want. They don't play. Even if it was, what makes you think that a somewhat one sided TvZ is "more" boring than a series of ZvZ starting with the Semis? Because that's what you usally get if you have Bo1 until Ro8 and with the current scene - see most of the tournaments so far.

Pissing me off would be a class of players who can only be lured into playing due to money, see G5's post. I'd love more people with the attitude of a Lancerx, who play w/e the circumstances are. It's not like half of the players complaining in here wouldn't sign up either way, it's very few who just don't want to post: "I got old and moved on". That happens, it's not bad at all, but save yourself some dignity and say it. Making it sound as if it's either Scan's, Brain's or the organizer's fault you're not that motivated anymore is just ridiculous and at some level insulting the work these put into this project. I wonder if 2pac et al. already regret trying to come up with that series. Stop being a negative nancy and start having fun. I mean seriously, this thread became a joke, we even get Eywa giving lectures of organizing. This. has. to. stop.

Start a poll and let the community vote, it will become clear in one day what the viewers want.
If this conflict continues it will push away both players and viewers.
Luv ya BroodWar!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19307 Posts
July 22 2015 12:54 GMT
#195
On July 22 2015 21:23 _Animus_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 17:58 GeckoXp wrote:
Yoda considers off racing as BM?

Again, it shouldn't be about what the viewers want. They don't play. Even if it was, what makes you think that a somewhat one sided TvZ is "more" boring than a series of ZvZ starting with the Semis? Because that's what you usally get if you have Bo1 until Ro8 and with the current scene - see most of the tournaments so far.

Pissing me off would be a class of players who can only be lured into playing due to money, see G5's post. I'd love more people with the attitude of a Lancerx, who play w/e the circumstances are. It's not like half of the players complaining in here wouldn't sign up either way, it's very few who just don't want to post: "I got old and moved on". That happens, it's not bad at all, but save yourself some dignity and say it. Making it sound as if it's either Scan's, Brain's or the organizer's fault you're not that motivated anymore is just ridiculous and at some level insulting the work these put into this project. I wonder if 2pac et al. already regret trying to come up with that series. Stop being a negative nancy and start having fun. I mean seriously, this thread became a joke, we even get Eywa giving lectures of organizing. This. has. to. stop.

Start a poll and let the community vote, it will become clear in one day what the viewers want.
If this conflict continues it will push away both players and viewers.

The bottom line is we discussed this as tournament organizers and made a decision. If this turns out to be a bad decision then is something we will have re-evaluate in the future. If we take a poll for this, then I guess we should have a poll for maps in the tournament to make that more fair or a poll for the tournament format or maybe a poll for what day the tournaments should be played on.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
13Julia
Profile Joined November 2004
Canada231 Posts
July 22 2015 13:11 GMT
#196
There is a point to that.

Personally dislike his participation because of the lags. You're looking at zvt (since there are no good terran and protoss now), where zerg can't micro. Add maps like pa, mp - you choose a winner before the tournament started.

His daily amount of games is 30+, which he streams like everyday for the last year. You sure this amateur tournament? 30+ daily seems like full-time work, with overtime hours added. Let other koreans play, and some random kr that makes 40+ games a day will simply rape him. What you're doing is discouraging ppl from participating - none will match that no-life amount of games.

This will be a tournament for 3rd place - who want's to play for 3rd place? Sziky will probably take 2nd, so the rest plays for 3rd spot.

This looks like FIFA commitee, all top places fixed already, you sure you need a tournament for that? xd
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-22 13:48:17
July 22 2015 13:43 GMT
#197
On July 22 2015 22:11 13Julia wrote:
There is a point to that.

Personally dislike his participation because of the lags. You're looking at zvt (since there are no good terran and protoss now), where zerg can't micro. Add maps like pa, mp - you choose a winner before the tournament started.

His daily amount of games is 30+, which he streams like everyday for the last year. You sure this amateur tournament? 30+ daily seems like full-time work, with overtime hours added. Let other koreans play, and some random kr that makes 40+ games a day will simply rape him. What you're doing is discouraging ppl from participating - none will match that no-life amount of games.

This will be a tournament for 3rd place - who want's to play for 3rd place? Sziky will probably take 2nd, so the rest plays for 3rd spot.

This looks like FIFA commitee, all top places fixed already, you sure you need a tournament for that? xd


I don't play every day. I'm very surprised that most of the people are just saying "oh, Scan just plays 24/7" or "30 ++ games daily."

Prove to people with an evidence where I play 30 ++ games per day instead of shouting out random stuff to make it into real and pushing me towards to accept and say, "Yes, I play 30 ++ games every day." I'm almost done getting school, I managed my time well to practice also. Stop looking for a way or ways to bullshit something about me and saying "Scan no life user" or "Scan 30 ++ games every day."

People who've been following and talking to me nicely on my stream channel or through Skype chat, they know it well. You guys can search up my DoB. You can make a prediction that I'm in school in the U.S., and I've also said nicely that I'm taking summer classes also while I'm in Korea earlier.

By the way, random Korean that makes 40 ++ games a day will not able to rape me that simply as you think. Why?
Everyone has different talents. I'm pretty sure you are smart enough to understand my meaning without any explanation.

I still get to see how some people are still posting false story to become true. Hmm. Not sure what to say about this problem.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
13Julia
Profile Joined November 2004
Canada231 Posts
July 22 2015 14:22 GMT
#198
Oh lol, never seen him be so manner like in this thread, guess people change for 50$.

Your stream was 24/7 for the past year, and the amount of daily games was in the description of each broadcast. That's good evidence.

By the way, random Korean that makes 40 ++ games a day will not able to rape me that simply as you think.


Touched a nerve there.

+ Show Spoiler +
You can't win vs active koreans, so you try to bash people who don't play 24/7 like you.


I still get to see how some people are still posting false story to become true. Hmm. Not sure what to say about this problem.


Nice try. Maybe start with yourself there.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 22 2015 14:29 GMT
#199
On July 22 2015 17:58 GeckoXp wrote:
Yoda considers off racing as BM?

Again, it shouldn't be about what the viewers want. They don't play. Even if it was, what makes you think that a somewhat one sided TvZ is "more" boring than a series of ZvZ starting with the Semis? Because that's what you usally get if you have Bo1 until Ro8 and with the current scene - see most of the tournaments so far.

Pissing me off would be a class of players who can only be lured into playing due to money, see G5's post. I'd love more people with the attitude of a Lancerx, who play w/e the circumstances are. It's not like half of the players complaining in here wouldn't sign up either way, it's very few who just don't want to post: "I got old and moved on". That happens, it's not bad at all, but save yourself some dignity and say it. Making it sound as if it's either Scan's, Brain's or the organizer's fault you're not that motivated anymore is just ridiculous and at some level insulting the work these put into this project. I wonder if 2pac et al. already regret trying to come up with that series. Stop being a negative nancy and start having fun. I mean seriously, this thread became a joke, we even get Eywa giving lectures of organizing. This. has. to. stop.

Sorry for trying to be a well mannered contributor to the discussion ~ my posts were less about organization and more about people criticizing the players for what is a natural reaction.

+ Show Spoiler +
Try to not insult the players you're going to need to run a successful tournament


Good luck with the event guys.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-22 14:43:12
July 22 2015 14:42 GMT
#200
On July 22 2015 23:22 13Julia wrote:
Oh lol, never seen him be so manner like in this thread, guess people change for 50$.

Your stream was 24/7 for the past year, and the amount of daily games was in the description of each broadcast. That's good evidence.

Show nested quote +
By the way, random Korean that makes 40 ++ games a day will not able to rape me that simply as you think.


Touched a nerve there.

+ Show Spoiler +
You can't win vs active koreans, so you try to bash people who don't play 24/7 like you.


Show nested quote +
I still get to see how some people are still posting false story to become true. Hmm. Not sure what to say about this problem.


Nice try. Maybe start with yourself there.


I'll just start ignoring these kinds of people. Pointless to argue.

Believe what you guys would like to and have fun with it.
You are just simply troll user to me after your reply. No evidence still shown, just typing all day.

You are just keyboard-warrior. Good luck in living with those prejudice in the future.
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