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[KOR] Announcement/공지 | Schedule/일정 | Results/결과 (search the board for 결과)
None other than the fan favorite and recently mini bio'd Mong steps up to the Game of Leagues with a first season of his own. And guess what? It didn't even start yet! But it would have if it wasn't for prech who let us know 
Mong shows future face of the confused casual clicking an "MSL" titled event as resident BW folks enjoy the party. Mong Starleague Season 1
STATUS 8/14: Delayed indefinitely, Mong dealing with some IRL stuff.
Mong makes it clear that as long as he finds sponsorship among his viewers, he intends to make this a regular thing. Whether the league will eventually grow is yet to be seen, for now it is a smaller 16 players league but boy is it packed. You guessed it! This time, Bisu is still missing.
However, as you can see, PianO isn't and he's cuter AND terran~ As for you protoss scums, there is Movie and he surely wouldn't bail out on his CJ buddy, right? This will be pigtastic so you better tune in on friday!
Players Terran: The Triumph Of War
PianO HiyA Sea Ample Mind
Zerg: Overcome All
Larva hero ZerO Killer
Protoss: Victory After Victory
Shuttle Movie Lazy Pure Tyson Jaehoon
Prizepool Winner: $1000 Runner-Up: $200 3rd Place: Honor Total: $1200 + Honor
Format Round of 16 Double Elimination 1st and 2nd in Bo1 Full League advance. For each group, 3 maps will be randomly picked out of the map pool.
Map Pool ~ Circuit Breaker - New Sniper Ridge - Benzene - New Fortress - Neo Jade
Round of 8 Best of 3 Circuit Breaker Benzene New Sniper Ridge
Semifinals Best of 5 Circuit Breaker Benzene New Sniper Ridge New Fortress Neo Jade
Finals Best of 5 Circuit Breaker Benzene New Sniper Ridge New Fortress Neo Jade
Idk if New Fortress is supposed to be Fortress SE or what. But it says "New Fortress" in Korean. You can try googling for 신 포트리스.
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wow so many tournaments, perfect to generate hype and make a power rank before SSL10!
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Bisutopia19175 Posts
Group B group of death?
Poll: Group of death?A: Shuttle, Movie Ample, Piano (5) 22% B: Hiya, Larva, Sea, Lazy (10) 43% C: hero, sSak, Zero, pure (6) 26% D:Tyson, Jaehoon, killer, mind (2) 9% 23 total votes Your vote: Group of death? (Vote): A: Shuttle, Movie Ample, Piano (Vote): B: Hiya, Larva, Sea, Lazy (Vote): C: hero, sSak, Zero, pure (Vote): D:Tyson, Jaehoon, killer, mind
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BENZENE
and this
Only downside of having a Mong-hosted tournament is not having Mong play 
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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Hoping ZerO starts to really regain his old form. His still hasn't quite found it yet.
Good to see Hoon in action. I'm not sure he is ready to do so...but hope he takes the whole thing
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exciting mappool and playerpool!
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On July 30 2014 11:35 endy wrote:Isn't "New Fortress" actually Fortress SE?
On July 30 2014 00:30 Stratos wrote: Idk if New Fortress is supposed to be Fortress SE or what. But it says "New Fortress" in Korean. You can try googling for 신 포트리스.
So quite possible, I did google a bit and found a post for 신 포트리스 but the link wanted me to sign up somewhere so I gave up. We'll see eventually.
Someone asked if it'll be casted by Mong. I don't expect anything else, if there was another caster he'd link to it or mention it somewhere. He may be joined by other ex-pros in casting as they do that quite often, like Hiya co-casting Starcue's events and actually making them watchable ^^
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Is there a reason that Bisu aint nowere to be seen at BW events ?
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On July 31 2014 05:28 Yemaka wrote:Is there a reason that Bisu aint nowere to be seen at BW events ? 
I'm wondering too.
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Why is there more Protoss scum than Zergs?
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Norway25712 Posts
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This is awsome, hope I get to watch some of the games live.
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nice job, mong 
this is great... but where is bisu?????
and what has happened to SSL 10?
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Damn all those groups are stacked! I personally like A, cheering for Piano in that.
Let's go Sea!!
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Just missing Beesuit. Should be a great tournie nonetheless.
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konadora
Singapore66116 Posts
Why aren't there any new maps :<
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On July 31 2014 19:01 konadora wrote: Why aren't there any new maps :<
We could submit Vendetta to Sonic :D
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United Kingdom12022 Posts
On July 31 2014 19:01 konadora wrote: Why aren't there any new maps :<
Fortress and Benzene haven't been played for a while and they own so atleast that's something!
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Mong decided to pull a Sonic today and deleted all dates from the schedule. He says a small issue came up and he'll update the schedule with a new one asap, there's going to be a small delay. I marked the calendar events as over for now, will update them later.
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On July 31 2014 06:31 son1dow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 05:28 Yemaka wrote:Is there a reason that Bisu aint nowere to be seen at BW events ?  I'm wondering too.
After winning SSL9, he said he was giving up tournament play as it was too demanding on him, but would still stream fish games. AFAIK he hasn't given any indication when or even if he will come back. There was also talk floating around of him considering the military in a year, so he really could be done (and who knows what BW will be like in 2 years when he might return?).
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TLADT24920 Posts
cool, another league. Not sure how I missed this one but more leagues, the better lol
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On August 04 2014 11:33 shizzz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 06:31 son1dow wrote:On July 31 2014 05:28 Yemaka wrote:Is there a reason that Bisu aint nowere to be seen at BW events ?  I'm wondering too. After winning SSL9, he said he was giving up tournament play as it was too demanding on him, but would still stream fish games. AFAIK he hasn't given any indication when or even if he will come back. There was also talk floating around of him considering the military in a year, so he really could be done (and who knows what BW will be like in 2 years when he might return?).
Sad to hear.
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Some Witty Headline
If I had to describe my endless fascination for Brood War to an outsider with one single word, I would probably pick versatility. It is not the amount of mechanics needed to maximize the damage output of your army, or the many interesting stories of the elite class. It is not even the rather outdated look, which makes the game so easy to understand, or the devotion of its fans over the years. It is not all that, it is that the game never gets stale. It is the constant evolution of strategies that keeps me watching. Interestingly enough, it is not the changes in what people refer to as "meta game“ which make up the biggest part of this evolution. It is, as so often, the small things you learn to appreciate, like Pylons.
Yes, Pylons. I do associate so many things with Pylons, for instance some memorable quote by some random German in the 'general' forums of broodwar.de. He answered the question, "is there a general Build Order I can always pick as Protoss?“ with, "yeah, build your Pylon at 8 Supply somewhere in your base.“ Well, even that was a lie, which he even admitted later. You might want to build a Pylon sooner. Ever since this anitclimatic example, it has been my personal favourite to show a beginner that there is no such thing as a fixed or universal Build Order.
Obviously, the first Pylon is crucial to the Protoss strategy. If you build it at eight supply, you can do it within your base, indicating you will either opt for a rush or a tech. You will either go standard against Terran and Protoss, or you will go for an outdated idea against Zerg. A Pylon in your natural expansion indicates the now popular "Fast Expansion,“ the building block of ANY mid game transition.
It is hard to explain how stunned I was after watching the first First Person VOD around 2002 or 2003 featuring a Nal_rA version of the Fast Expansion on Lost Temple. I remember clearly that I thought, "this won't end well." Back then, every Zerg would just build a dozen Zerglings or so and run over two Photon Cannons, hence: idiotic idea. However, Nal_rA did what feels natural today, he build the first Pylon exactly in a place which would allow a "wall-in“. It felt a little like being present when the alphabet was first explained. Seems like an idea anyone could come up with, when it really is not. It might explain why I was not nearly as mind blown when Bisu fumbled around with some mid-game timings later. It was not nearly as fundamental to me. But that is just me.
Back to the point. The "first Pylon of Men“ might also indicate some fancy Proxy Gate strategy. These can turn out rather funny. It shows where you can hide your Gateways from the get-go, to really fuck over any opponent, regardless of what their race. Most memorable: the Kingdom Pylon in the "KingDumb“ Game.
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It does not end here. The Pylon story continues to grow on you, once you see what an impact they can have. There is more than just one game or one strategy tied to the use of the Pylon. It is magic, since you can place that building anyhwere and anytime. Following early Brood War history, Drone/Eriador's move has to come up next. Theoretically speaking, he is the guy who invented the Pylon Prison. At this point I am forced to add a {{Citation Needed}}, because I can not source this statement. Be that as it may... He went for a one base opening on Lost Temple in the Protoss mirror, spotted the opponent doing a one Gate Build – indicating a fast Dragoon switch – and the rest is history.
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There are dozens of variations of the Pylon Prison and even more related strategies. The Pylon Prison itself was even temporarily tagged as "Protoss Build Order“, even though it is not really one. To keep it short, we also have the "Manner Pylon“ related to the "Pylon Prison.“ This means you build a Pylon next to a gap in the mineral patches to deny enemy workers from accessing them. Everyone knows this, even though nobody understands why this is a "Manner“ Pylon. There was no player called "Manner“, but whatever. The idea itself is another example of creativity. But it goes futher.
Against Terrans you can block add-ons from being constructed, most importantly a Machine Shop when doing a Dragoon heavy pressure build. Investing in a Pylon might delay the Siege Mode upgrade long enough to break a wall-in, or to deny the Wall-In in the first place. This can really be a game deciding move. Just sit back and enjoy.
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Do you know this shit joke where a mathematician "constructs“ a trap by drawing a circle, stepping inside of it and then saying "I define the inside as outside“? Yes you do, you are nerds like me. This logic applied to Prisons can be used in several ways. The most boring example would be the Pylon Wall-ins used to deny access to freshly built expansion against Dragoon attacks or Vulture raids. It is so common we should not waste much space here.
However, since we are still in the oldest days of Brood War, the cannon rush should not be neglected. Back in 2004, a relatively unknown Austrian called TiQ.Dany qualified for the World Cyber Games. On broodwar.de he was dicussed in terms of "yeah, he's one of us, even better than almost all of us, but he stands no chance against the really big names in his group like Strafe." Turns out, all Dany needed to do was to define the inside as outside and completely overwhelm Strafe. You know where this leads, do you not? On the silly map of Korhal of Ceres the main mineral line is exactly one Pylon gap apart from the map's borders. So, just build two Pylons there and one cannon et voilá – you have a cannon rush that cannot be stopped. Today it is rather easy to block such a rush, but back then Strafe really did not know how to react and lost. Dany did not advance, but he easily made it into the best moves of the entire tournament, a tournament featuring the international elite.
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Over the years it was figured out how to completely hard counter such a rush, we just mentioned that. One method, a rather complicated one, involves a mix of Manner Pylon and a glitch – you build a Pylon near Minerals and spam the move command behind the minerals shortly after warping in the Pylon. This is a rather common trick to bypass Minerals on maps like Outsider or Heartbreak Ridge. Obviously, it is easier to just gather two workers on the same mineral patch and spam the stop command to have one of the workers glitch over the obstacle. However, the logic of abusing the collision of Brood War's AI in combination with Brood War leads to yet another entry in the book of the Pylon: the Pylon Prison 2.0.
Some really unknown player either staged or bashed a newby on Lost Temple with this trick. He build so many buildings at the low level near his opponent's starting position, that the freshly trained Dragoon was spawned on top of the cliff and inside his opponent's base. Shieeeeet.
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I could probably rant on a lot longer about the many other Pylons and Pylon related tricks. We totally left out the "Artosis Pylon," because that one really does not matter. Actually, it does, a little. Did you know it is one of the most idiotic bugs effected by the Pylon? In the very old days, it was very possible that your first or second Pylon warped in (or any other for that matter) gave you supply, but did not power up. This happened when you selected it a lot during the warp-in phase. In the end, it popped up, but you could not build anything, as the blue radius just did not work. I lost a lot of games due to this. It should be fixed by now.
I hope you got my point and were entertained for a bit. Next time remember the Napoleon effect: A small thing can have a large influence.
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United Kingdom12022 Posts
On August 04 2014 18:22 fearthequeen wrote:Group C looks fun. I'm hoping hero and zero advance so that Arcania will cry. 
lol mate no chance sSak won't advance. He's no.1
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On August 04 2014 18:22 fearthequeen wrote:Group C looks fun. I'm hoping hero and zero advance so that Arcania will cry.  wat da fuck
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Let's go Sea! Is Jangbi still playing in tourneys?
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On August 04 2014 20:31 Epithet wrote: Let's go Sea! Is Jangbi still playing in tourneys?
Jangbi has been absent for sometime. He left afreeca/bw for personal reasons months ago, and has yet to indicate anything about returning from what I've heard. I could have old info though as I really haven't heard a lot about him since he stopped playing but I hope he comes back at some point, protoss power!
Oh and predictions.. Movie shuttle, sea larva, ssak hero, killer mind
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Bisutopia19175 Posts
Still no results on these games?
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On August 01 2014 14:40 Stratos wrote: Mong decided to pull a Sonic today and deleted all dates from the schedule. He says a small issue came up and he'll update the schedule with a new one asap, there's going to be a small delay. I marked the calendar events as over for now, will update them later. Still no update since then. Don't worry guys I'm checking daily
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Mong just shared some irl stuff came up and he's going to take some time to think stuff over. That means further delay for this league and possibly lack of Mong in tournaments/streaming altogether
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TLADT24920 Posts
On August 15 2014 01:57 Stratos wrote:Mong just shared some irl stuff came up and he's going to take some time to think stuff over. That means further delay for this league and possibly lack of Mong in tournaments/streaming altogether  dang. Well, I think his irl is more important but hopefully things are fine and we get this tournament and him streaming/participating again.
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sSak has dis in a nutsack!
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