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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
December 28 2013 02:01 GMT
#21
Why would you want such a shitty map in the map pool?
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10890 Posts
December 28 2013 03:01 GMT
#22
Luna is a classic map that shows much skill you truley have
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
radley
Profile Joined August 2008
Poland582 Posts
December 28 2013 03:30 GMT
#23
yes, Luna is good , micro-based map!
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SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
December 28 2013 05:47 GMT
#24
lol
don't be ridiculous.
fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States790 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 07:30:49
December 28 2013 07:09 GMT
#25
Well, I voted for Icarus to replace Colloseum. You probably don't want to redo the poll at this point, but since you're considering getting rid FS I think Luna + Toadstone + Icarus would be a pretty nice variety for 4 player map pool.

I think the main concern with maps like Monty Hall and Triathalon is that it's next to impossible to get a meaningful practice game on these maps that don't/rarely see any map of the week action. So people vote for a map that they already know/know they can get practice games on. On the other hand "funky" maps can be a great excuse for a loss so players may want to factor that into their voting as well. Like, "hey i didn't know this map at all hope you lose next round" or "wtf Astral Balance is a better map than this piece of shi.t"

Speaking of funky maps have you considered using the classic blizzard 2 player map "Crystallis." I think it would be a fine addition to this league.
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SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 07:58:45
December 28 2013 07:19 GMT
#26
To help maybe get replace FS with Luna?

Poll: Remove Fighting Spirit?

No! (18)
 
78%

Yes! (5)
 
22%

23 total votes

Your vote: Remove Fighting Spirit?

(Vote): Yes!
(Vote): No!

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fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States790 Posts
December 28 2013 07:30 GMT
#27
I would vote on that poll but I'm not sure if yes is a yes for FS or a yes to replace FS
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chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2614 Posts
December 28 2013 07:47 GMT
#28
On December 28 2013 16:30 fearthequeen wrote:
I would vote on that poll but I'm not sure if yes is a yes for FS or a yes to replace FS


This lol.

At first I was like "Hell yes go FS" and then "lol is it Yes to remove?". now i am mindf**ked
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10890 Posts
December 28 2013 09:37 GMT
#29
On December 28 2013 14:47 SnowFantasy wrote:
lol
don't be ridiculous.


Any decent old school player knows that luna is balanced, generic yet exciting map to play on, it leads to some very nice interesting games. Elaborate on why it shouldn't be in the pool instead of saying something so simple.
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SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 10:25:02
December 28 2013 10:24 GMT
#30
Race Stats (non-mirrors):
TvZ: 99-87 (53.2%)
ZvP: 68-45 (60.2%)
PvT: 63-42 (60%)

dat balance.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
December 28 2013 10:35 GMT
#31
Nostalgia has similar win rates and July vs Iloveoov was SUPER EXCITING!!!!!!!!

We should add that to the map pool.
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
December 28 2013 10:39 GMT
#32
I detect sarcasm.

Also luna is an extremely bland map compared to wide selection of much better designed maps AND more exciting maps made after it. You can always do better than luna.
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fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States790 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 11:10:39
December 28 2013 11:05 GMT
#33
When the choice is FS vs Luna I would much rather have Luna in, because Toadstone is similar enough to FS we don't need 2 very similar maps in the map pool. Not to mention Luna has seen about zero action in foreign leagues. Also, quoting map stats from pro games is not relevant here, this is a C+ max league remember.
On December 28 2013 19:35 SnowFantasy wrote:
Nostalgia has similar win rates and July vs Iloveoov was SUPER EXCITING!!!!!!!!

We should add that to the map pool.

While this was in jest I would rather see Nostalgia in place of FS too. Isn't the point of a map pool to have a variety of maps that require a variety of strategies? FS AND Toadstone is redundant.
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SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
December 28 2013 11:11 GMT
#34
I'm totally serious.

I want Nostalgia in.
fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States790 Posts
December 28 2013 11:19 GMT
#35
Allright it's settled then

Toadstone
Luna
Nostalgia

glhf
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Fear_Chaos
Profile Joined December 2004
United States101 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 13:33:20
December 28 2013 13:31 GMT
#36
I can't believe people want to play on Luna...

It's one of the most bland maps in the history of BW and is extremely dated

Maybe it's because most people didn't have to deal with playing it non-stop when it was released.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
December 28 2013 13:38 GMT
#37
dude, u gotta think about the very nice interesting games
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10413 Posts
December 28 2013 15:42 GMT
#38
Luna's positional imbalance is fucking ridiculous. Defending vs. Mutalisks as P at the 1 o'clock base + nat is way harder than any other base. 5 o'clock has an almost decent nat while others are retarded. Luna is a stupid map compared to modern ones.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
December 28 2013 16:07 GMT
#39
On December 28 2013 22:31 Fear_Chaos wrote:
I can't believe people want to play on Luna...

It's one of the most bland maps in the history of BW and is extremely dated

Maybe it's because most people didn't have to deal with playing it non-stop when it was released.


If people want to play a fucked-up oldschool 4-player map, they should go with Gaia or Python. Or Neo Legacy of Char. The naturals on the left side of Luna are closer than the ones on the right side. DOES ANYONE ELSE NOTICE THIS OR ARE WE ALL TAKING CRAZY PILLS!?

What about Sword In The Moon?

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Or Tears Of The Moon?

[image loading]


THEY BOTH HAVE THE MOON IN THEIR NAME SO THEY'RE JUST AS GOOD AS LUNA.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 19:05:02
December 28 2013 18:52 GMT
#40
On December 28 2013 18:37 GGzerG wrote:
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On December 28 2013 14:47 SnowFantasy wrote:
lol
don't be ridiculous.


Any decent old school player knows that luna is balanced, generic yet exciting map to play on, it leads to some very nice interesting games. Elaborate on why it shouldn't be in the pool instead of saying something so simple.
Balance isnt fixed. This isnt 2005, luna should be ignored. Most people arent familiar with it, wont get games on it, and wont understand the map, which is radically different than any other map in the pool. Yes, in a simplistic way its just a boring macro map, but no boring macro map plays at all the same way; fs/andromeda/luna for ex are all way different.
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