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ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
August 14 2013 03:42 GMT
#741
On August 14 2013 12:22 L_Master wrote:
Only question is, do we dare do a 16 week season to make it neat...or do we incorporae bys?


Not sure what the question is o0

Also, 16 weeks sounds kind of long, although I personally would not mind.
btw, how many teams are there?
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 03:43:47
August 14 2013 03:43 GMT
#742
On August 14 2013 12:22 L_Master wrote:
Only question is, do we dare do a 16 week season to make it neat...or do we incorporae bys?

Make byes despite having an even number of teams that could be finished within 7 weeks? o.O I think putting byes will be pushing it to the point where it'll get to the point where players are gonna start getting busy with exams and be leaving for the holidays, and we'll want it to finish the season ASAP.

Edit: Venci, there's 8 teams participating.
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ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 04:27:36
August 14 2013 04:02 GMT
#743
If there is an even number of teams, I don't see why there should be any byes.
16 weeks means 14 weeks of group stages and 2 weeks of playoffs, right? Sounds acceptable to me.

edit: On a side note, I think it's worth considering changing the structure of the playoffs in such a way that every team has the incentive to give their best till the end. For example, letting 6 instead of 4 teams reach the playoffs. Maybe with the first 2 teams being seeded one round ahead of the other 4 or the last 3 teams having to fight for the 4th spot in the elimination bracket with 5th vs 6th -> winner vs 4th -> winner takes the last spot in the playoff elimination bracket.
Something like this would reduce the possibility of a team having no chance for the playoffs mid-season, and thus have no more incentive to play. I think, the league would benefit from this especially if it the group stages go for 14 weeks.

edit2:
On August 14 2013 12:43 SynC[gm] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 12:22 L_Master wrote:
Only question is, do we dare do a 16 week season to make it neat...or do we incorporae bys?

Make byes despite having an even number of teams that could be finished within 7 weeks? o.O I think putting byes will be pushing it to the point where it'll get to the point where players are gonna start getting busy with exams and be leaving for the holidays, and we'll want it to finish the season ASAP.

Edit: Venci, there's 8 teams participating.


If we start next Saturday, 16 weeks later would be the first Saturday of December. I guess this would be before holiday season for everybody.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
August 14 2013 04:51 GMT
#744
Yea, that should be fairly clear that I meant 14 weeks, not 16. Teams don't play themselves
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
August 14 2013 07:11 GMT
#745
Or we could do Playoffs STX-Soul tournament style.
Bottom vs 2nd last.
Winner vs 3rd Last.
So on and so fourth, but that'd take forever for a play-off lol.
darkness overpowering
CrystalDrag
Profile Joined July 2010
173 Posts
August 14 2013 13:01 GMT
#746
if problem with vin is the low ground mains, I can reverse the terrain level..
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 14 2013 14:19 GMT
#747
I'm against a 6 team playoff. Already have the league makes it to them with 4, making it 6 almost means "as long as you aren't the shittiest team in the league, you can make it".
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
August 14 2013 16:02 GMT
#748
14 week, no byes, 4team playoff
Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
August 14 2013 16:21 GMT
#749
I'm fine with whatever, though byes can get pretty lame. Players not showing up/getting walked over because their team lost or can't make the playoffs or other late-season motivation problems... also lame.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Magreidis
Profile Joined May 2013
Lithuania146 Posts
August 14 2013 16:26 GMT
#750
When teams with drafts lineups will be ready?
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SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 16:59:06
August 14 2013 16:44 GMT
#751
DRTL5 Schedule

Week 1
Banana Split vs SunKhan
Airforce Ace of Spades vs Courage
TAKK vs mSj
DeSPA vs Stealth Bunnies

Week 2
mSj vs Courage
DeSPA vs Airforce Ace of Spades
Stealth Bunnies vs SunKhan
Banana Split vs TAKK

Week 3
TAKK vs Stealth Bunnies
Banana Split vs Airforce Ace of Spades
SunKhan vs Courage
mSj vs DeSPA

Week 4
Banana Split vs Stealth Bunnies
Courage vs DeSPA
TAKK vs Airforce Ace of Spades
SunKhan vs mSj

Week 5
Airforce Ace of Spades vs Stealth Bunnies
TAKK vs Courage
Banana Split vs mSj
SunKhan vs DeSPA

Week 6
Stealth Bunnies vs mSj
Banana Split vs Courage
SunKhan vs Airforce Ace of Spades
DeSPA vs TAKK

Week 7
Courage vs Stealth Bunnies
Airforce Ace of Spades vs mSj
TAKK vs SunKhan
Banana Split vs DeSPA

Week 8
Stealth Bunnies vs mSj
Banana Split vs Courage
SunKhan vs Airforce Ace of Spades
DeSPA vs TAKK

Week 9
Banana Split vs Stealth Bunnies
Courage vs DeSPA
TAKK vs Airforce Ace of Spades
SunKhan vs mSj

Week 10
mSj vs Courage
DeSPA vs Airforce Ace of Spades
Stealth Bunnies vs SunKhan
Banana Split vs TAKK

Week 11
Courage vs Stealth Bunnies
Airforce Ace of Spades vs mSj
TAKK vs SunKhan
Banana Split vs DeSPA

Week 12
TAKK vs Stealth Bunnies
Banana Split vs Airforce Ace of Spades
SunKhan vs Courage
mSj vs DeSPA

Week 13
Airforce Ace of Spades vs Stealth Bunnies
TAKK vs Courage
Banana Split vs mSj
SunKhan vs DeSPA

Week 14
Banana Split vs SunKhan
Airforce Ace of Spades vs Courage
TAKK vs mSj
DeSPA vs Stealth Bunnies
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DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 16:56:39
August 14 2013 16:56 GMT
#752
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 15 2013 01:44 SynC[gm] wrote:
DRTL5 Schedule

Week 1
Banana Split vs SunKhan
Airforce Ace of Spades vs Courage
TAKK vs mSj
DeSPA vs Stealth Bunnies

Week 2
mSj vs Courage
DeSPA vs Airforce Ace of Spades
Stealth Bunnies vs SunKhan
Banana Split vs TAKK

Week 3
TAKK vs Stealth Bunnies
Banana Split vs Airforce Ace of Spades
SunKhan vs Courage
mSj vs DeSPA

Week 4
Banana Split vs Stealth Bunnies
Courage vs DeSPA
TAKK vs Airforce Ace of Spades
SunKhan vs mSj

Week 5
Airforce Ace of Spades vs Stealth Bunnies
TAKK vs Courage
Banana Split vs mSj
SunKhan vs DeSPA

Week 6
Stealth Bunnies vs mSj
Banana Split vs Courage
SunKhan vs Airforce Ace of Spades
DeSPA vs TAKK

Week 7
Courage vs Stealth Bunnies
Airforce Ace of Spades vs mSj
TAKK vs SunKhan
Banana Split vs DeSPA

Week 8
Stealth Bunnies vs mSj
Banana Split vs Courage
SunKhan vs Airforce Ace of Spades
DeSPA vs TAKK

Week 9
Banana Split vs Stealth Bunnies
Courage vs DeSPA
TAKK vs Airforce Ace of Spades

Week 10
mSj vs Courage
DeSPA vs Airforce Ace of Spades
Stealth Bunnies vs SunKhan
Banana Split vs TAKK

Week 11
Courage vs Stealth Bunnies
Airforce Ace of Spades vs mSj
TAKK vs SunKhan
Banana Split vs DeSPA

Week 12
TAKK vs Stealth Bunnies
Banana Split vs Airforce Ace of Spades
SunKhan vs Courage
mSj vs DeSPA

Week 13
Airforce Ace of Spades vs Stealth Bunnies
TAKK vs Courage
Banana Split vs mSj
SunKhan vs DeSPA

Week 14
Banana Split vs SunKhan
Airforce Ace of Spades vs Courage
TAKK vs mSj
DeSPA vs Stealth Bunnies


Why does week9 not have Khan vs MSJ?

Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
August 14 2013 16:59 GMT
#753
On August 15 2013 01:56 DarkNetHunter wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 15 2013 01:44 SynC[gm] wrote:
DRTL5 Schedule

Week 1
Banana Split vs SunKhan
Airforce Ace of Spades vs Courage
TAKK vs mSj
DeSPA vs Stealth Bunnies

Week 2
mSj vs Courage
DeSPA vs Airforce Ace of Spades
Stealth Bunnies vs SunKhan
Banana Split vs TAKK

Week 3
TAKK vs Stealth Bunnies
Banana Split vs Airforce Ace of Spades
SunKhan vs Courage
mSj vs DeSPA

Week 4
Banana Split vs Stealth Bunnies
Courage vs DeSPA
TAKK vs Airforce Ace of Spades
SunKhan vs mSj

Week 5
Airforce Ace of Spades vs Stealth Bunnies
TAKK vs Courage
Banana Split vs mSj
SunKhan vs DeSPA

Week 6
Stealth Bunnies vs mSj
Banana Split vs Courage
SunKhan vs Airforce Ace of Spades
DeSPA vs TAKK

Week 7
Courage vs Stealth Bunnies
Airforce Ace of Spades vs mSj
TAKK vs SunKhan
Banana Split vs DeSPA

Week 8
Stealth Bunnies vs mSj
Banana Split vs Courage
SunKhan vs Airforce Ace of Spades
DeSPA vs TAKK

Week 9
Banana Split vs Stealth Bunnies
Courage vs DeSPA
TAKK vs Airforce Ace of Spades

Week 10
mSj vs Courage
DeSPA vs Airforce Ace of Spades
Stealth Bunnies vs SunKhan
Banana Split vs TAKK

Week 11
Courage vs Stealth Bunnies
Airforce Ace of Spades vs mSj
TAKK vs SunKhan
Banana Split vs DeSPA

Week 12
TAKK vs Stealth Bunnies
Banana Split vs Airforce Ace of Spades
SunKhan vs Courage
mSj vs DeSPA

Week 13
Airforce Ace of Spades vs Stealth Bunnies
TAKK vs Courage
Banana Split vs mSj
SunKhan vs DeSPA

Week 14
Banana Split vs SunKhan
Airforce Ace of Spades vs Courage
TAKK vs mSj
DeSPA vs Stealth Bunnies


Why does week9 not have Khan vs MSJ?


I do not know what you are talking about. You must be on some drugs. Please leave me alone, stranger.
twitch.tv/dizzywee
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
August 14 2013 20:02 GMT
#754
14 weeks seems way too ambitious. Considering the dropout rate in the past, it wouldn't be unusual for a team to be unable to play halfway through the season due to lack of players. What happens if a team goes 0-6, trashing player morale and decimating the team's motivation to show up? What happens if a team disappears entirely similar to NW Power of last season?

The length of this season risks exacerbating existing problems within the league for very little gain. If you really want more games, just run two DRTL seasons in succession.
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ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
August 14 2013 21:00 GMT
#755
On August 15 2013 05:02 Spazer wrote:
14 weeks seems way too ambitious. Considering the dropout rate in the past, it wouldn't be unusual for a team to be unable to play halfway through the season due to lack of players. What happens if a team goes 0-6, trashing player morale and decimating the team's motivation to show up? What happens if a team disappears entirely similar to NW Power of last season?

The length of this season risks exacerbating existing problems within the league for very little gain. If you really want more games, just run two DRTL seasons in succession.


I agree. I feel like 14 weeks of group stages has a very high chance of not working out...
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
August 14 2013 21:12 GMT
#756
Well I'll be out of town the first 2-3 weeks so more weeks is better for me

Spazer may have a point though. Back to back seasons or a multi-round season ala BW SPL may be preferable due to fluctuations in player interest. New seasons/rounds can provide more frequent recruiting periods too.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
August 14 2013 21:16 GMT
#757
try it out~ go for the gold~
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
KaiGreene
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
233 Posts
August 14 2013 21:17 GMT
#758
I would like to reschedule my match on the 24th. I really have to work then because I owed a colleague a big favor. Thanks in advance
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
August 14 2013 21:35 GMT
#759
On August 15 2013 06:17 KaiGreene wrote:
I would like to reschedule my match on the 24th. I really have to work then because I owed a colleague a big favor. Thanks in advance

Uh, can't someone else on TAKK sub for you? It's not like lineups were due yet or anything.
Not that I care, you're playing vs mSj D:


Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 14 2013 22:01 GMT
#760
If things remain as they have been, a 16 week season will almost mean 16 weeks till the next DRIT. So I'd rather the season not be 16 weeks. Spazer's post has a lot of merit, as well.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
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