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SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
April 11 2013 11:54 GMT
#1361
On April 11 2013 19:35 Cpt.beefy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 16:26 Sinedd wrote:
amazing hate guys

Thank you so much, I had a good laugh reading all your posts ! :D


Quit it now.


-quits-
twitch.tv/dizzywee
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10117 Posts
April 11 2013 12:15 GMT
#1362
On April 11 2013 16:26 Sinedd wrote:
amazing hate guys

Thank you so much, I had a good laugh reading all your posts ! :D

Hey keep taking wins you don't deserve and dodging like the coward you are ^^

http://ru.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/BSL-Maciej.html

OOPS
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
t0ssboy
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria681 Posts
April 11 2013 12:58 GMT
#1363
On April 11 2013 21:15 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 16:26 Sinedd wrote:
amazing hate guys

Thank you so much, I had a good laugh reading all your posts ! :D

Hey keep taking wins you don't deserve and dodging like the coward you are ^^

http://ru.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/BSL-Maciej.html

OOPS

Whopsie Daysiess...When you're player is higher ranked,atleast tell them to ladder on Smurfs xD.
Courage is doing what you are afraid to do.There can be no courage if there is no fear.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
April 11 2013 15:21 GMT
#1364
On April 11 2013 21:15 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 16:26 Sinedd wrote:
amazing hate guys

Thank you so much, I had a good laugh reading all your posts ! :D

Hey keep taking wins you don't deserve and dodging like the coward you are ^^

http://ru.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/BSL-Maciej.html

OOPS


Wait I don't see the problem here.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
April 11 2013 15:24 GMT
#1365
On April 12 2013 00:21 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 21:15 Jealous wrote:
On April 11 2013 16:26 Sinedd wrote:
amazing hate guys

Thank you so much, I had a good laugh reading all your posts ! :D

Hey keep taking wins you don't deserve and dodging like the coward you are ^^

http://ru.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/BSL-Maciej.html

OOPS


Wait I don't see the problem here.


3800 pts.

EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 15:26:39
April 11 2013 15:24 GMT
#1366
So? o_O It's not really conclusive evidence about anything.

It's not like you can see his match history...or if he just played straight up D+/C- players the entire time. Plus he's Protoss. You're making it seem like it's hard to get to 3800 as Protoss.

jk Protoss underpowered
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
April 11 2013 15:28 GMT
#1367
Not like it's hard to get 4000 as Terran either.

jk Terran underpowered
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 15:29:02
April 11 2013 15:28 GMT
#1368
On April 12 2013 00:28 EchOne wrote:
Not like it's hard to get 4000 as Terran either.

jk Terran underpowered


Exactly! I hit 4000 with a sub-50% win ratio.

It's okay. If I try now I might be able to hit it again. Or I could just be lazy and pay attention to getting a job or something rather than browsing TL.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
April 11 2013 15:30 GMT
#1369
On April 12 2013 00:24 Zergneedsfood wrote:
So? o_O It's not really conclusive evidence about anything.

It's not like you can see his match history...or if he just played straight up D+/C- players the entire time. Plus he's Protoss. You're making it seem like it's hard to get to 3800 as Protoss.

jk Protoss underpowered


Ah, but I can from this season. He cleared it once but both are suspiscious.

In his previous one he was like 11-7, with losses only to players ranked C or better, and numerous wins. His current one is 7-4, but has losses only against C ranked players, and like 5 of his 7 wins over C-/C players.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
April 11 2013 15:32 GMT
#1370
On April 12 2013 00:30 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 00:24 Zergneedsfood wrote:
So? o_O It's not really conclusive evidence about anything.

It's not like you can see his match history...or if he just played straight up D+/C- players the entire time. Plus he's Protoss. You're making it seem like it's hard to get to 3800 as Protoss.

jk Protoss underpowered


Ah, but I can from this season. He cleared it once but both are suspiscious.

In his previous one he was like 11-7, with losses only to players ranked C or better, and numerous wins. His current one is 7-4, but has losses only against C ranked players, and like 5 of his 7 wins over C-/C players.


I can't see his match history then. ;;
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
April 11 2013 15:36 GMT
#1371
On April 12 2013 00:32 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 00:30 L_Master wrote:
On April 12 2013 00:24 Zergneedsfood wrote:
So? o_O It's not really conclusive evidence about anything.

It's not like you can see his match history...or if he just played straight up D+/C- players the entire time. Plus he's Protoss. You're making it seem like it's hard to get to 3800 as Protoss.

jk Protoss underpowered


Ah, but I can from this season. He cleared it once but both are suspiscious.

In his previous one he was like 11-7, with losses only to players ranked C or better, and numerous wins. His current one is 7-4, but has losses only against C ranked players, and like 5 of his 7 wins over C-/C players.


I can't see his match history then. ;;


The account I'm looking at is plain maciej.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
April 11 2013 15:45 GMT
#1372
Serious talk: is there a punishment forthcoming for this "Maciej" player?
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
t0ssboy
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 18:03:17
April 11 2013 17:45 GMT
#1373
Courage is doing what you are afraid to do.There can be no courage if there is no fear.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
April 11 2013 18:30 GMT
#1374
On April 12 2013 00:45 EchOne wrote:
Serious talk: is there a punishment forthcoming for this "Maciej" player?


TBD.

I would like to hear what Maciej has to say on the matter himself before I even consider banning him from the league.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 19:06:11
April 11 2013 18:52 GMT
#1375
On April 12 2013 03:30 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 00:45 EchOne wrote:
Serious talk: is there a punishment forthcoming for this "Maciej" player?


TBD.

I would like to hear what Maciej has to say on the matter himself before I even consider banning him from the league.

Was pretty obvious weeks ago when someone mentioned it he's over D+
Closer to C/C+ actually. Personally been wondering why he's even still playing

We even went over his match history on skype rofl. All wins vs C or higher players, only losses to like A- players
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 19:48:09
April 11 2013 19:43 GMT
#1376
Sorry for revealing prematurely, L_Master, just couldn't read Sinedd's self-satisfied posts when he pushes another C-+ player (like Solmyr last season) without the appropriate replays or max rank stated (I assume - I certainly didn't see any qualifying evidence).

The rules in the OP state:

"You may ask to to play if you don't fit the criteria and we will review the case. IF you attempt to sign-up without notifying me of having achieved a higher rank on the listed account of any other account YOU WILL NOT PLAY. There are no exceptions to this. Don't fuck up here or you will just get banned."

I might not know the whole story, but it seems as if Maciej/NW is in clear violation of this -_-; I sent a rep pack and specifically asked if I could play, I don't see why other players should be exempt from this. His games have already affected the outcome of at least 1 series.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
SlowBullets
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States839 Posts
April 11 2013 20:37 GMT
#1377
On April 12 2013 00:24 Zergneedsfood wrote:
So? o_O It's not really conclusive evidence about anything.

It's not like you can see his match history...or if he just played straight up D+/C- players the entire time. Plus he's Protoss. You're making it seem like it's hard to get to 3800 as Protoss.

jk Protoss underpowered

That ruins the entire integrity of the league then...
1:1 go sc2 LAN? Oh wait...
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10117 Posts
April 12 2013 00:52 GMT
#1378
BTW for my opponent on Saturday, I will need a 2-3 hour PP. If that does not suit you, please name another day and time. Once line-ups come up I will contact you or your captain as well, but wanted to make sure my PP was known before the deadline in case things come up tomorrow.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 01:17:39
April 12 2013 01:11 GMT
#1379
More potentially damning information on NW, and some other stuff:

+ Show Spoiler +
[8:56:30 PM] raukolith: btw babo
[8:56:38 PM] raukolith: http://netwars.pl/temat/155671
[8:56:59 PM] raukolith: nagla[kdv] if he's playing isnt' d+ either
[8:57:13 PM] Korean Grandma: Post it on the forum
[8:57:17 PM] Korean Grandma: I can't read polish
[8:57:29 PM] raukolith: yea.... but i also wanna wait to see if they're gonna post their lineup
[8:57:35 PM] raukolith: so we can choose what opponents we wnat
[8:57:36 PM] raukolith: lol
[8:57:48 PM] Korean Grandma: Don't do that
[8:57:57 PM] Korean Grandma: that would lower you to their level
[8:58:18 PM] Korean Grandma: please just post -_- I mean, I will post it if you don't but you found it and understood it (?) so..
[8:58:39 PM] raukolith: i mean it hink of it this way
[8:58:48 PM] raukolith: it doesn't makea huge difference ifthey're banned before or after lineups are released
[8:59:03 PM] raukolith: but if lmaster decides not to ban them, then it only affects my team as to whether or not this was discussed before lineups are released
[8:59:40 PM] Korean Grandma: no, reading their lineup affects only their team
[8:59:43 PM] Korean Grandma: your**
[8:59:48 PM] Korean Grandma: every other team has not done this
[8:59:58 PM] Korean Grandma: so you're looking to also gain an unfair advantage?
[9:00:08 PM] raukolith: it was right there
[9:00:16 PM] raukolith: it's not my problem no one else bothered to read their forum
[9:00:29 PM] raukolith: its not like they tried to hide it and i had to hack in or anything
[9:00:42 PM] Korean Grandma: how you accessed the information doesn't matter
[9:00:50 PM] Korean Grandma: that's still unfair
[9:01:10 PM] raukolith: you might as well claim that its unfair someone looked up a map on liquipedia and his opponent didnt
[9:01:11 PM] raukolith: anyone can do it
[9:01:19 PM] Korean Grandma: if you go counterpicks, then your team wins, another has less of a chance to make playoffs
[9:01:32 PM] Korean Grandma: so, clearly you are not going to post this on TL?
[9:01:47 PM] raukolith: its only an unfair advantage if no one else has the chance to use it
[9:01:56 PM] raukolith: if everyone has a chance then its not unfair
[9:01:56 PM] Korean Grandma: how about letting LMaster know about it then?
[9:02:01 PM] raukolith: i'll post it after lienups are released
[9:02:04 PM] raukolith: im trying to
[9:02:06 PM] raukolith: he's not responding
[9:02:06 PM] Korean Grandma: Not everybodt else speaks spanish
[9:02:14 PM] Korean Grandma: errr, oolish
[9:02:18 PM] raukolith: neither do i
[9:02:20 PM] Korean Grandma: polish*
[9:02:20 PM] raukolith: i used google translate
[9:02:26 PM] Korean Grandma: -_-
[9:02:51 PM] Korean Grandma: can you point me to the post that states that nagla is not D+?
[9:02:58 PM] raukolith: very bottom
[9:02:59 PM] Korean Grandma: #
[9:03:07 PM] raukolith: 617

** POST= [#617] MoreAndMMore
Właśnie zajebiście że zrobiłeś TAKI SAM nick jak na BSL i cie wyczaili że zabardzo d+ nie jesteś... :v I chyba Piza żebyś grał.


[9:03:20 PM] raukolith: [8:08 PM] Abelard Podgorski:

<<< something about "you made the same nickname as me in BSL, you aren't d+, and I don't get the last bit - 'maybe you played Piza?"
[9:04:00 PM] Korean Grandma: I am strongly inclined to post this now
[9:04:07 PM] Korean Grandma: since this is currently an issue already
[9:04:12 PM] Korean Grandma: it seems like the opportune time
[9:04:22 PM] raukolith: \\O_o// it doesn't make a difference before or after lineups are released
[9:04:27 PM] raukolith: as to whether or not lmaster makes a decision
[9:04:41 PM] Korean Grandma: it;s in my best interest to prevent cheating
[9:04:43 PM] Korean Grandma: including yours
[9:04:43 PM] raukolith: causes more trouble for nw actually
[9:04:52 PM] raukolith: because then they have to redo their lineup
[9:04:54 PM] raukolith: afte rthey already agreed
[9:04:55 PM] raukolith: lol
[9:05:02 PM] raukolith: how's it cheating? anyone can go look at their forum
[9:05:10 PM] raukolith: it wouldn't be cheating if we posted about our lineups in a TL thread
[9:05:12 PM] Korean Grandma: you don't realize that if they stop using this forum and post privately, the teams NEXT WEEK will not be able to look it up?
[9:05:12 PM] raukolith: that anyone could read
[9:05:15 PM] raukolith: and someone looked at it
[9:05:25 PM] Korean Grandma: so therefore you are usurping
[9:05:28 PM] Korean Grandma: other teams
[9:05:31 PM] Korean Grandma: of the advantage
[9:05:33 PM] raukolith: so don't say anyting about it publically then
[9:05:59 PM] raukolith: if LP shuts down tomorrow, is it "usurping othe rplayers" of not having used LP before then?
[9:06:01 PM] raukolith: no..
[9:06:16 PM] Korean Grandma: I'm inclined to say it publicly both because its better for the league to know what is up, AND because it will hinder your plans
[9:06:21 PM] Korean Grandma: at insider information
[9:06:36 PM] raukolith: \\O_o// i told you bout their forums ages ago, not my problem you didn't decide to use that
[9:06:53 PM] raukolith: and the league will know whats up
[9:06:57 PM] Korean Grandma: -_- I can't believe you have no honor like this.
[9:07:00 PM] raukolith: just a few hours later
[9:07:13 PM] raukolith: it's not an issue of "honor"
[9:07:24 PM] raukolith: it's an issue of "are you dumb enough to do this? if yes i will take advantage of it"
[9:07:29 PM] Korean Grandma: well, now the league will know that you intended to get unfair advantage over other teams that are slated to play NW
[9:07:50 PM] raukolith: i fail to see how it's possible to spin it as an "unfair" advantage
[9:07:55 PM] raukolith: is it "unfair" to train more
[9:08:00 PM] raukolith: or "unfair" to analyze their lineups
[9:08:09 PM] raukolith: or "unfair" to go for information about their lineups
[9:08:09 PM] Korean Grandma: please no farfetched analogies
[9:08:33 PM] raukolith: i doubt anyone will think it's "unfair"
[9:08:37 PM] raukolith: just "shit i should have though of that earlier"
[9:09:40 PM] raukolith: what is "unfair" is to be playing when you're clearly not D+ anymore
[9:09:43 PM] raukolith: which is what NW is doing
[9:09:46 PM] raukolith: and what both of us are doing
[9:09:59 PM] Korean Grandma: no, I just think you're low for doing this
[9:10:07 PM] raukolith: that's not the same thing as "unfair"
[9:13:49 PM] Korean Grandma: it's unfair to the teams who have not played them yet, undoubtedly
[9:14:13 PM] Korean Grandma: by making it public now, assuming no other team has done it, it will keep the playing field even
[9:14:17 PM] Korean Grandma: between non-NW teams
[9:14:23 PM] Korean Grandma: I don't see how you don't see this
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
April 12 2013 01:13 GMT
#1380
lol

i guess arb, all of TAKK, babo, myself, reaver should withdraw from the league then?
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