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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 16:21:17
July 17 2012 16:21 GMT
#2381
On July 18 2012 01:19 Cambium wrote:
why did you take away the background ?


it has to be manually added onto each page, and hpig only added it to 112/113 or something
Writer
Potling
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 16:22:20
July 17 2012 16:21 GMT
#2382
ninja'd
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
July 17 2012 16:22 GMT
#2383
On July 18 2012 01:13 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 01:11 Holgerius wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:09 Lightwip wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:05 ]343[ wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:04 Lightwip wrote:
Kespa rank pretty much just tells you how good you were a year ago.


So...? Flash was "good a year ago" for 32 months... which means he was actually #1 for somewhere pretty close to that.

Actually that's only because he was terran.

And this is why people can't really take you seriously in any discsussion.

What can I say, I'm a bitter hater at heart (see signature).
Kespa ranks mean nothing though.


eh, I'd say Kespa rank is basically a "who has won the most games (weighted heavily toward individual league games)" rank. So while it's obviously not great, it does tend to indicate who's winning a lot (of individual league games).

Players who can't win individual league games... don't have a high Kespa rank!
Writer
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
July 17 2012 16:29 GMT
#2384
[image loading]

Just according to keikaku ^^ Final is going to be rematch from last OSL, how sick is that?
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
July 17 2012 16:31 GMT
#2385
So sad about this

Neither of the players I wanted to advance advanced and Flash getting 3-0'ed is disappointing, even though Fantasy was brilliant. Fantasy really has been amazing this year, and you could see the difference in skill and sharpness between his play and Flash's. I hope he wins in the finals.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 17 2012 16:34 GMT
#2386
On July 18 2012 01:22 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 01:13 Lightwip wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:11 Holgerius wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:09 Lightwip wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:05 ]343[ wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:04 Lightwip wrote:
Kespa rank pretty much just tells you how good you were a year ago.


So...? Flash was "good a year ago" for 32 months... which means he was actually #1 for somewhere pretty close to that.

Actually that's only because he was terran.

And this is why people can't really take you seriously in any discsussion.

What can I say, I'm a bitter hater at heart (see signature).
Kespa ranks mean nothing though.


eh, I'd say Kespa rank is basically a "who has won the most games (weighted heavily toward individual league games)" rank. So while it's obviously not great, it does tend to indicate who's winning a lot (of individual league games).

Players who can't win individual league games... don't have a high Kespa rank!

It's more of a "who can win the most weighted games in a short period of time and sit on those achievements until they expire" type of rank.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2214 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 16:40:31
July 17 2012 16:38 GMT
#2387
On July 18 2012 01:14 Nick_54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 00:51 reincremate wrote:
On July 18 2012 00:50 ppshchik wrote:
On July 18 2012 00:46 fabiano wrote:
Why can't people accept that Flash is inferior to Fantasy in TvT?

Fantasy TvT is much superior than Flash

Swallow that.


Fantasy is simply better than Flash even before he beat him in SPL. He advanced to the previous 2 OSL finals ffs.

I take it you haven't watched a lot of PL or BW in general in the past 2 years.


Stats beginning with the October 2010 proleague season. About a year and 9 months sample.

Flash 73.38 win percentage. Wins 1 MSL Title, 0 OSL finals, won proleague finals in 2011 going 2-0, lost proleague finals in 2012 going 0-2.

Fantasy 67.36 win percentage. Wins 1 or 2 OSL's. Made 3 OSL finals. Went 1-0 in proleague finals 2011 and went 1-0 in 2012 beating Flash head to head. Beats Flash 3-0 in OSL semis.

Personally I'd take Fantasy, especially if he has prep time for the biggest matches. It's not 2010 for Flash anymore.

Fantasy has recently achieved more than Flash has (OSL, PL finals, recent PL record) and you can make a good argument that Fantasy > Flash in the past 1 or 2 years (or vise versa depending on what standards of measurement you use), but for the above poster to say "Fantasy is simply better than Flash even before he beat him in SPL" as if it's such an obvious unequivocal fact, is highly inaccurate and misleading.
edit: typos
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
July 17 2012 16:40 GMT
#2388
On July 18 2012 01:38 reincremate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 01:14 Nick_54 wrote:
On July 18 2012 00:51 reincremate wrote:
On July 18 2012 00:50 ppshchik wrote:
On July 18 2012 00:46 fabiano wrote:
Why can't people accept that Flash is inferior to Fantasy in TvT?

Fantasy TvT is much superior than Flash

Swallow that.


Fantasy is simply better than Flash even before he beat him in SPL. He advanced to the previous 2 OSL finals ffs.

I take it you haven't watched a lot of PL or BW in general in the past 2 years.


Stats beginning with the October 2010 proleague season. About a year and 9 months sample.

Flash 73.38 win percentage. Wins 1 MSL Title, 0 OSL finals, won proleague finals in 2011 going 2-0, lost proleague finals in 2012 going 0-2.

Fantasy 67.36 win percentage. Wins 1 or 2 OSL's. Made 3 OSL finals. Went 1-0 in proleague finals 2011 and went 1-0 in 2012 beating Flash head to head. Beats Flash 3-0 in OSL semis.

Personally I'd take Fantasy, especially if he has prep time for the biggest matches. It's not 2010 for Flash anymore.

Fantasy has recently achieved more than Flash has (OSL, PL finals, recent PL record) and you can make a good argument that Fantasy > Flash in the past 1 or 2 years (or vice versa depending on what standards of measurement you use), but for the above poster to say "Fantasy is simply better than Flash even before he beat him in SPL" as if it's such an obvious unequivocal fact, is highly inaccurate and misleading.


Agreed sir
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
July 17 2012 16:45 GMT
#2389
3-0???????
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
July 17 2012 16:45 GMT
#2390
Oh well.. seems like Flash's peak is past him. 2009-2010 season couldn't last forever.

Was a hell of a career, just too bad that BW is ending so prematurely, I still think that Flash would've eeked out the 7th title eventually.

Well played Fanta, hope you earn your 2nd title.
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
July 17 2012 16:46 GMT
#2391
On July 18 2012 01:34 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 01:22 ]343[ wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:13 Lightwip wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:11 Holgerius wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:09 Lightwip wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:05 ]343[ wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:04 Lightwip wrote:
Kespa rank pretty much just tells you how good you were a year ago.


So...? Flash was "good a year ago" for 32 months... which means he was actually #1 for somewhere pretty close to that.

Actually that's only because he was terran.

And this is why people can't really take you seriously in any discsussion.

What can I say, I'm a bitter hater at heart (see signature).
Kespa ranks mean nothing though.


eh, I'd say Kespa rank is basically a "who has won the most games (weighted heavily toward individual league games)" rank. So while it's obviously not great, it does tend to indicate who's winning a lot (of individual league games).

Players who can't win individual league games... don't have a high Kespa rank!

It's more of a "who can win the most weighted games in a short period of time and sit on those achievements until they expire" type of rank.


Lightwip, you're dumb.

Also, Bisu sucks.
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
July 17 2012 16:50 GMT
#2392
Wow I just saw the vods. I am speechless! Flash getting 3-0'd is unheard of, congrats to Fantasy for some amazing play
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
July 17 2012 16:51 GMT
#2393
Today, I laughed to myself at the possibility of Fantasy 3-0ing Flash.

Now I cry.
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
July 17 2012 16:52 GMT
#2394
On July 18 2012 01:46 nbaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 01:34 Lightwip wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:22 ]343[ wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:13 Lightwip wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:11 Holgerius wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:09 Lightwip wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:05 ]343[ wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:04 Lightwip wrote:
Kespa rank pretty much just tells you how good you were a year ago.


So...? Flash was "good a year ago" for 32 months... which means he was actually #1 for somewhere pretty close to that.

Actually that's only because he was terran.

And this is why people can't really take you seriously in any discsussion.

What can I say, I'm a bitter hater at heart (see signature).
Kespa ranks mean nothing though.


eh, I'd say Kespa rank is basically a "who has won the most games (weighted heavily toward individual league games)" rank. So while it's obviously not great, it does tend to indicate who's winning a lot (of individual league games).

Players who can't win individual league games... don't have a high Kespa rank!

It's more of a "who can win the most weighted games in a short period of time and sit on those achievements until they expire" type of rank.


Lightwip, you're dumb.

Also, Bisu sucks.

WOAH. That was uncalled for.
Writer:o
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
July 17 2012 16:55 GMT
#2395
On July 18 2012 01:52 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 01:46 nbaker wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:34 Lightwip wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:22 ]343[ wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:13 Lightwip wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:11 Holgerius wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:09 Lightwip wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:05 ]343[ wrote:
On July 18 2012 01:04 Lightwip wrote:
Kespa rank pretty much just tells you how good you were a year ago.


So...? Flash was "good a year ago" for 32 months... which means he was actually #1 for somewhere pretty close to that.

Actually that's only because he was terran.

And this is why people can't really take you seriously in any discsussion.

What can I say, I'm a bitter hater at heart (see signature).
Kespa ranks mean nothing though.


eh, I'd say Kespa rank is basically a "who has won the most games (weighted heavily toward individual league games)" rank. So while it's obviously not great, it does tend to indicate who's winning a lot (of individual league games).

Players who can't win individual league games... don't have a high Kespa rank!

It's more of a "who can win the most weighted games in a short period of time and sit on those achievements until they expire" type of rank.


Lightwip, you're dumb.

Also, Bisu sucks.

WOAH. That was uncalled for.

Bisu sucking is true though
AdrianInzunza
Profile Joined December 2010
Mexico44 Posts
July 17 2012 17:03 GMT
#2396
On July 18 2012 01:13 fabiano wrote:
Yesterday Flash was better, today Fantasy is superior

3-0 speaks for itself


agreed ! Fanta smash jangbi on finals please,
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
July 17 2012 17:09 GMT
#2397
Haven't seen these games yet. 5 seconds into game 1's VOD and I'm already having a good time!
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
July 17 2012 17:15 GMT
#2398
On July 17 2012 22:59 sluggaslamoo wrote:
You know who really won out of all of this?

Nada


I woke up today. And I remembered that the OSL semi final was last night or so. I opened, heart beating with hesitation as I wondered if the only threat to surpassing NaDa's legacy would advance.

Click.

Deliverance.

:D

Bittersweet though, an SKT1 terran advancing? Gross.
Remember 11-12-04. 이윤열 ~. |||| ZerO, IriS, JangBi, Stork, BackHo! Mah Jae Yoon is no longer a feared entity.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
July 17 2012 17:20 GMT
#2399
Kong-line is supreme.
TenJin`Lucian
Profile Joined August 2011
Costa Rica158 Posts
July 17 2012 17:25 GMT
#2400
OMG hahahaha, yes! I love this result, no one shall surpass (T)NaDa. Rooting for (P)JangBi now because I hate every other terran apart from (T)NaDa.
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