[OSL] Ro4: JangBi vs ZerO - Page 109

On July 11 2012 07:11 GinDo wrote:
Come on Flash vs. Jangbi FINALS.

T_T Long Live BW.

On July 11 2012 06:39 2yph0n wrote:


Last OSL final, China have two streams for it. One of them have 3 Million viewers while the other had 7. That makes 10 million.

On July 11 2012 07:33 Megaliskuu wrote:


That was total views not concurrent viewers rofl, don't just spout bs numbers.

On July 11 2012 07:36 2yph0n wrote:


Please elucidate me.

On July 11 2012 08:18 xxpack09 wrote:


1) You're using the word "elucidate" incorrectly. "Please enlighten me" or "Please elucidate this for me" would be better alternatives.

2) You are the one making the claim (that 10 million people watched the last OSL finals in China)--therefore, the responsibility is on you to provide proof to backup your claim, not for someone else to prove that you are wrong.

On July 11 2012 08:27 2yph0n wrote:


1) First argument wasn't even attacking the topic we are trying to relate
2) No I absolutely do not have to back up my claim unless being questioned. He challenged me on that part so the ball is in his court to prove it wrong.

To break it down, its pretty much "Oh yeah the Chinese viewers have like 10 million people in watching BW!" to which person B responded "Nah, that's bullshit man! Chinese viewers have 10 million counts"

3) And oh yeah if you want prove, go read maybenexttime's post on the topic.

On July 11 2012 08:18 xxpack09 wrote:


1) You're using the word "elucidate" incorrectly. "Please enlighten me" or "Please elucidate this for me" would be better alternatives.
2) You are the one making the claim (that 10 million people watched the last OSL finals in China)--therefore, the responsibility is on you to provide proof to backup your claim, not for someone else to prove that you are wrong.

On July 11 2012 09:02 Ideas wrote:
Jangbi has really proved himself to be possibly the best protoss player ever in series play: great strategies, great metagaming, fantastic execution, and great reactions. Stork had good strategies usually but would crumble when things didn't go exactly as he planned. Bisu never really metagamed or strategized at all and just relied on his mechanics.

I was so sad for zero when he lost. I mean I wanted jangbi to win and I'm glad he did, but htat was mostly becuase I felt he would put on the better show in the finals (zero has had a horrible record vs fantasy and vs flash in the last 2 years). but I really felt his pain at the end of game 5. He is surely one of hte most skilled zergs to ever play the game but missed his last chance ever to solidify that with a gold medal (in fact, it was the last chance zerg will ever have at a gold :\). I think zero played about as well as you could hope for given his situation, but I really don't think that was the same zero of the past. The zero that beat jaedong in the ABCmart MSL semifinals or who trounced stork 3-0 in the PDPop MSL quarterfinals.

The zero we saw today was a guy being worked to death playing 2 games at once and without the opportunity or motivation to put his life into the series like he could before. Like most other progamers right now the certainty of zero's career was destroyed by the announcement of the transition to SC2. had the sponsors stayed zero would be set for the next few years to play BW as the ace for woongjin and eventually on airforce ACE. but now there's a strong chance he may not be relevant anymore in SC2. the amount of pressure on him to perform well in SC2 must be HUGE, especially when he clearly wants to give the last BW OSL his all.

fuck this whole transition isn't fair at all to the players or the fans. even as we try to just enjoy what remains we can't help but think that it all shouldn't end and could flourish for years to come if things worked out just a little better . we are constantly reminded that this game we love so much is being forced into retirement and replaced with a other games that we do not care about (SC2/ LoL).

That's the worst part about it: this series was fantastic and because of that it just reminds us all that it could have been even better and that it didn't have to the end

and that just goes back to my original post: we will never know if Jangbi can continue the great play he showed today for another chance at a title next year or if zero could prove he has what it takes to leave a mark