[SPL] Kt Rolster vs CJ Entus - Page 22

On June 24 2012 19:09 kusto wrote:


No it can't. It denies Hellions better, but it's not the Holy Grail of ZvT as you still need spines against pretty much every all-in. I don't kow why this even comes up.
Also, you still have map control with Hellions unless Zerg makes a ton of Zerglings at this point (which they shouldn't if they want to saturate third base).

If they do not saturate and let you get up third base, you can push with upgrades and trade very well. Am i the only one here who actually plays TvZ?

On June 24 2012 21:58 IntoTheheart wrote:
What's FlaSh's SC2 winrate? Isn't his TvZ 0-3 or something?

On June 24 2012 19:57 sc2superfan101 wrote:
so effort is a very savvy player to say the least. he seems to have a very good idea how to react to what he's being given. Flash shows signs of brilliance, but also shows a kind of stubbornness that might become worrisome. his mechanics are perfect, even his game sense seems legit, just like he's not used to the volatility of TvZ. so far i've been pretty impressed with him though, even with all his mistakes.

it's just such a wildly different game right now, and he probably switched at the worst possible time, being a terran. i don't want to get into balance issues, but the fact is that terran's are suffering a bit, a lot of it is just that the metagame(?) has shifted away from what it was, and also in my opinion, the zerg and protoss are starting to become much more figured out by their respective players. Flash, being a terran, is going to struggle because it's either up to him or another terran to figure out new styles of play to counter protoss and zerg greed (i still love you guys!)

he should NOT retire unless he just absolutely hates the game or is completely uninterested in it. i see something in his play that makes me excited to watch him. he's getting better, he's learning. it takes a lot of time to switch over to a completely different style of play. watching TvX in BW, the matchups are just... about as different as you can get imo. BW matchups are also MUCH more figured out and stable, which makes it easier for a player of his caliber to shine through. as it is, every week the MU changes form completely and is almost unrecognizable from the week before. i pray that HotS can fix a lot of these issues, and hopefully bring some balance to the force.

Flash would get rocked and rolled by Polt. yes. he would get rocked and rolled by most GSL code A players if not all of them. but that is nothing to be ashamed of or anything to worry about. if in six months he is still playing at a sub-Code A level, than we can worry about him. as of now, he's been focusing on SC2 for what? two months? maybe three? MVP and MKP have been playing this game at a high level for two and half years. he needs time to get his feet under him.

another thing to consider is this: whatever the fans feel about BW going away... Flash and players like him probably feel it about 10,000x worse. they would have to be made of stone to not have some worries and fears about their performance, and to not have a lot of regrets and worries about BW. that kind of mental "baggage" for lack of a better term is going to affect their play. until they get settled in and are able to focus on SC2 completely, they will have a tough time showing the sheer brilliance that they became legends for showing. the dude is what? 20 years old, if that? okay that isn't really a kid anymore, but that is still a really young guy. his life and career have been turned upside down. give them another couple of months before you start planning their funeral.

all is not lost. Flash annihilated the Kespa thing in MLG. Jaedong just won tonight. Effort is extraordinarily impressive in his play and game sense. none of the big names have quit yet, which speaks 1) to their unreal dedication and 2) to the fact that they haven't given up yet. the fans can't give up on them or else why are they even trying so hard to learn this new game at breakneck speed? sure a lot of it is probably for the money, but a lot of it is their fucking balls-to-the-walls pride. you can see it in the way they keep stepping up despite all the shit that's being thrown at them.

idk what point im making here. i'm fucking pumped, and you should be too, i guess is what im saying. no, thats not it either. if you don't like SC2 than you don't like SC2. no one should try to bully anyone into liking something they don't like. but if you love the players and love the teams, than just hang in there. they WILL get better. Flash will roflstomp MVP some day. I promise. it's gonna be painful for everyone until then, but hey, no pain no gain.

On June 24 2012 18:49 ProxyKnoxy wrote:


Because the 6 queen build can basically stop every all in or pressure. You can't do anything with hellions.

On June 25 2012 08:20 GolemMadness wrote:
Flash has lost a couple of games after practicing for a couple of months while also practicing Brood War for Proleague and preparing for the RO8. Calm the fuck down.

On June 25 2012 08:21 Xiphos wrote:


And yet your name suggest otherwise.

On June 25 2012 09:45 GolemMadness wrote:


My name suggests otherwise from what? What are you talking about?

On June 25 2012 07:01 silent_owl wrote:
Didn't get to see this but nice to see Effort winning but sad to find out Flash lost in SC2. Call me old-fashioned but if this transfer is gonna happen, I'd rather that it result in SC2 have a little stability in terms of who's generally winning and what-not. May a real definite bonjwa rise. May Flash (or Effort or Bisu or JD) start winning practically everything.