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ReTr0[p.S]
Profile Joined March 2005
Argentina1590 Posts
October 21 2005 04:49 GMT
#761
On October 21 2005 13:44 Prose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2005 05:34 FireBlast! wrote:
boxer refuses to expand like a man and seemingly builds up a stonrg one blow dropship offensive


LOL
"Refuses to expand like a MAN"? What? He's a sissy for not expanding? NO.
He builds up a strong force for an apocalyptic strike, like a god.


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Profile Joined August 2005
United States538 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-10-21 05:14:08
October 21 2005 05:10 GMT
#762
On October 21 2005 13:44 Prose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2005 05:34 FireBlast! wrote:
boxer refuses to expand like a man and seemingly builds up a stonrg one blow dropship offensive


LOL
"Refuses to expand like a MAN"? What? He's a sissy for not expanding? NO.
He builds up a strong force for an apocalyptic strike, like a god.



classic!


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Painbringer
Profile Joined March 2003
Norway446 Posts
October 21 2005 05:22 GMT
#763
hehe maybe he just meant "Boxer refuses to expand, like the man he is".

And thanks for the summary Pop, nice review.
YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-10-21 05:49:48
October 21 2005 05:47 GMT
#764
On October 21 2005 09:00 Luhh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2005 08:56 FrozenArbiter wrote:
On October 21 2005 07:56 Luhh wrote:
Greatest comeback ever?

Hardly, the valkyrie game decided the match, since then terran has 1 autowin (r-point) and 1 map with a fairly big advantage...

Boxer didn't even seem to play well, yet he won the series... lame. shit. fuck.

I mean the 2 games Pusan won sounds like he really outplayed boxer.

Uh, you really think game 1 sounds like pusan won because he was outplaying boxer?
It sounds more like boxer got overconfident --;

Perhaps. But this feels like a sloppy semifinal compared to the awesomeness we saw 1 year ago between Reach/oov. :/


i think the first game on mercury between reach and oov last year really delude people's image of the rest of the series. if you think this was sloppy, recall that in either game 2 or 3, i dont remember which, reach lost after a horrible carrier rush failed on pelennor and that he won game 4 on requiem with a gate/forge cannon rush.

anyway though, this series is very reminiscent of the nada/gorush semi in IOPS. gorush went up 2-0 and looked to be dominating nada, then had game 3 won and blew it. after that, it was just a downhill slide and his confidence looked clearly broken. the big league experience of nada shined in that series much like how boxer's experience advantage over pusan showed here.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
October 21 2005 05:52 GMT
#765
hehe, yeah i had to think of the nada vs gorush game on dream of balhae as well^^

i doubt that there is ANY progamer around with as much mental strength as boxer
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jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
October 21 2005 06:44 GMT
#766
Woaoaoa BOXER <3

*laughing at all the crying tossplayers who make up reasons for the loss*


gogo win this osl now box-.-
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instantbunz
Profile Joined November 2004
United States319 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-10-21 08:01:06
October 21 2005 07:12 GMT
#767
Some of you guys are referring to how oov beat Reach 3:2, and that it was a better game. That game was different. Reach and oov are played massive macro: build up, fight in the center, and keep fighting until one wins.

> Don't forget that Reach tried to play macro against Boxer and got killed 0:2 (Boxer's timing attack with mass tank/vulture against Reach on R-point, and Boxer's mass dropships with tanks/goliaths on map 815).

> Pusan, on the other hand, practiced so that he would win 3:0 on the maps using strategy. If you watch the game, you'll see that him and his coaches worked an incredible amount on the strategy.

But Boxer lasted through and beat Pusan even in terms of strategy. So, in the end, Boxer beat Reach's macro and Pusan's strategy/macro.
Veni.Vidi.Vici.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
October 21 2005 07:13 GMT
#768
Boxer is going to win vs Oov.

OSL hat trick ftw.
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6774 Posts
October 21 2005 21:52 GMT
#769
YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAH
<3 boxer, He is the freakin man!
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Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-10-22 02:35:50
October 22 2005 02:34 GMT
#770
Seems like the 815 games were the only good ones. 815 PvT unwinnable!!!!!

I found Game 5 to be intense, and enjoyed it a lot. Don't know why people are disappointed. It was great defense by both players early on, and near the end, Boxer was just a bit better, with his timely switch to vultures, and his wraith counter to carriers. I'm a P player that wants a P champion, but I'm not at all disappointed that Boxer took this one

The better player won this series, it wasn't crap like maps. Pusan had to play R-Point, Boxer had to play Forte. The 815 games didn't seem imba at all, Pusan had a good strategy for that map, and played pretty well.
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instantbunz
Profile Joined November 2004
United States319 Posts
October 22 2005 04:02 GMT
#771
Did you see Boxer's Daily MVP voting? He got 80% of the commentator's votes, and 97% of the viewer's vote, compared to Pusan's 20% and 3%.

Right now, they're voting for the weekly MVP, and there's 6 hrs left until the vote ends, but Boxer already has 90% of the viewer's vote. lol.

http://www.fighterforum.com/mvp/mvp_read.asp
Veni.Vidi.Vici.
Jim
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden1965 Posts
October 22 2005 04:13 GMT
#772
On October 22 2005 13:02 instantbunz wrote:
Did you see Boxer's Daily MVP voting? He got 80% of the commentator's votes, and 97% of the viewer's vote, compared to Pusan's 20% and 3%.

Right now, they're voting for the weekly MVP, and there's 6 hrs left until the vote ends, but Boxer already has 90% of the viewer's vote. lol.

http://www.fighterforum.com/mvp/mvp_read.asp

This is what Im talking about. Go BOXER!
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Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
October 22 2005 04:41 GMT
#773
thx everyone for the battle reports
interesting =)
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racebannon
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada1225 Posts
October 22 2005 07:02 GMT
#774
game 5 was long and boring. Game 2 3 and 4 were the only good ones. Boxer got absolutely destroyed in 2, and 3 and 4 were close but short and on any other maps would have been much longer and he probably wouldn't have won.

Game 5 though, it was never close. Everything pusan did was ineffective. And not because boxer was playing really tight, neither played the best games of their careers. I blame the map primarily, it just doesn't promote entertaining builds or gameplay. Goliath vs speedlots and cannons just isn't fun to watch. By the time pusan switched to carriers boxer's gols were too far upgraded and he had too many bases for there to be any competition

The best part of this whole series was the guy in the long sleeved orange shirt who was going crazy for Boxer the whole time.

its nice to see boxer come back from 2-0 but there was no magic in the 5th game, fuck 815 for robbing us of an exciting game 5.
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lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
October 22 2005 07:14 GMT
#775
yeah that guy was funny

i especially like when he was praying lol
好好喝喝天天快乐
lil.sis
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
China4650 Posts
October 22 2005 07:14 GMT
#776
and i agree pusan played very well
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
October 22 2005 12:58 GMT
#777
Bleh, I agree that game 5 sucked. I was screaming at my monitor for Pusan to expand for like 20 minutes... I think if he had set himself to macro mode and expoed a few times as he should have; he would've had the econ to work up the type of group he would've needed to win... I found Game 5 boring and drawn out. Game 3 was awesome, Pusan was hella impressive Game 2, and same for Boxer Game 4.
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Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
October 22 2005 13:41 GMT
#778
It might have been hard for Pusan to expand, with Boxer running around with 5 dropships and 20000 goliaths dropping anything that pops up.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
October 22 2005 14:20 GMT
#779
On October 22 2005 22:41 Purind wrote:
It might have been hard for Pusan to expand, with Boxer running around with 5 dropships and 20000 goliaths dropping anything that pops up.


There were a lot of times he could have I think; but I think he was trying too hard to out-strategize the Master... micro/strategy game on semi-island vs Boxer? I really wish he had played it out to be more of a macro fest from the get-go.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-10-22 16:48:33
October 22 2005 16:47 GMT
#780
On October 22 2005 16:02 racebannon wrote:
game 5 was long and boring. Game 2 3 and 4 were the only good ones. Boxer got absolutely destroyed in 2, and 3 and 4 were close but short and on any other maps would have been much longer and he probably wouldn't have won.


Game 4 was close? How that? o.o

Despite killing some SCVs Pusan had absolutely 0 chance vs such a well executed timing push after double expanding.

Game 5 though, it was never close. Everything pusan did was ineffective. And not because boxer was playing really tight, neither played the best games of their careers. I blame the map primarily, it just doesn't promote entertaining builds or gameplay. Goliath vs speedlots and cannons just isn't fun to watch. By the time pusan switched to carriers boxer's gols were too far upgraded and he had too many bases for there to be any competition


I don't agree that it was never close, and I think speedzeals/templars into arbiters or carriers is a great choice PvT on this map. Speedzeals/templars are supposed to rape Goliaths and they don't need shuttles to be dangerous to starting positions bases. Plus hallucinating shuttles before dropping islands can be very effective as well, although Pusan didn't seem to do it.

Anyway, to me it looked like as if despite pwning in the early game, if Boxer failed to defend vs any of Pusan's numerous offensives, he would have been left in a bad, sometimes very bad position.

Some random proterran could have easily lost that game.
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