On January 10 2012 00:57 GoTuNk! wrote: team 8 should win, everyone on KT is completely terrible at bw aside from stats/flash, and you can't really cheese effectively z v t -.-
i think u should watch your game in superleague (FAT vs some korean team - at least i think it was you who played last game?) before u start calling proffesional gamers horrible.. who are u to judge?
Ya, I lost to a at least 1500 fish korean that defeated sziky, proj7ect, jumperer, etc. Shame on me -.-. Anyway, I deeply respect all progamers but its obvious that when talking at progamer level, KT zergs are just a rank below. Not me judging, just some stats:
Your best Zerg statistically, ACTION: All: 74-84 (46.84%)
We have CH aswell: All: 37-46 (44.58%) Hoejja: 51-67 (43.22%) Perfective: 10-12 (45.45%)
Its also to note that all of them other than action have less than 40% winrate vs t, with perfective being 1-5 lol. Mind has more potential than any of them, and I'm sure many rookies aswell, they should start fielding them instead of trying that those guys cheese in z v p or win a z v z. I guess perfective seems to be actually good at z v p, though he haven't played really good protosses. Srsly, none of the above, maybe action, would get to play at all if they where on CJ, Woonjing or SKT, and would rarely appear on other teams.
On January 10 2012 01:12 Deletrious wrote: Jaedong has played insanely well versus Terran for a while, really want to see him versus Flash. Killer and Baby and obviously Sea have not performed all that well this proleague. Don't really see Team 8 winning.
baby hasn't performed well?!?? he started off with a 4-0 streak. lost his last two games to well-constructed builds. top 5 on PR
you know, after all this sadness with team 8, jd crushing flash could be a great thing, i mean flash is 6-0 this season and he kinda destroyed every opponent (maybe not modesty in which at one point he had the adventage) and even if flash losses like w/e hes preforming really well so far, so not a big deal, but jd in the other hand is not, those 2 losses to timing attacks vs best and snow, must have hurted his confidence, and not to talk about the last game against canata, yeah canata played very well but jd could have handled it better, that plus an underperformig sea that must have his confidence at 0 in tvp at this point, a shaky killer, i dont count baby here cuz even when he is in a 2 loss streak, i feel like hes very confident this season i dont expect him to go in a slump o something like that, and you dont know what to expect of jaehoon/tyson, and also the not so good MU picking by the coach (not like stx coach that is onfire) must be a terrible pressure to all of them. i really like flash and jaedong, but for the sake of bw i hope for jd making the first loss on flashs matchlist =)
On January 10 2012 00:57 GoTuNk! wrote: team 8 should win, everyone on KT is completely terrible at bw aside from stats/flash, and you can't really cheese effectively z v t -.-
i think u should watch your game in superleague (FAT vs some korean team - at least i think it was you who played last game?) before u start calling proffesional gamers horrible.. who are u to judge?
Ya, I lost to a at least 1500 fish korean that defeated sziky, proj7ect, jumperer, etc. Shame on me -.-. Anyway, I deeply respect all progamers but its obvious that when talking at progamer level, KT zergs are just a rank below. Not me judging, just some stats:
Your best Zerg statistically, ACTION: All: 74-84 (46.84%)
We have CH aswell: All: 37-46 (44.58%) Hoejja: 51-67 (43.22%) Perfective: 10-12 (45.45%)
Its also to note that all of them other than action have less than 40% winrate vs t, with perfective being 1-5 lol. Mind has more potential than any of them, and I'm sure many rookies aswell, they should start fielding them instead of trying that those guys cheese in z v p or win a z v z. I guess perfective seems to be actually good at z v p, though he haven't played really good protosses. Srsly, none of the above, maybe action, would get to play at all if they where on CJ, Woonjing or SKT, and would rarely appear on other teams.
I didnt ask you for excuse just wanted to point you that everyone can sit in front of a computer and critisize. Just so you know KT has 7 players in top50 7- Flash, Stats =5, so its 5 players in top 50 you actually trashed saying that they are and i quote " terribad in bw". So who is not terribad in bw ? Flash, Bisu, Jaedong?- or is he also terribad for loosing to Canata? that stats u linked ,uhm were talking about sport where 55% total winrate clasifice you in top 10 , were talking about sport where "God" is someone who has "only - because compared to other sports its not impressive at all -72% total winrate"and this is insane anyway. So please specialy since youre a player not 10 years old spectator who knows nothing about bw, dont call people who spend like 12+ hours per day training hard terribad , they deserve respect for what they do , even if they look weak compared to top players . (televised matches dont go as good as in practise for most people - i remember Flash interview about his teammates explaining that stuff but dont remember when)
Anyway, about the game , looking how bad T8 is doing recently i hope for easy win for KT , but that combo Baby, Jaedong, Sea looks scary - i hope they wake up soon and end that loosing streak but not today
On January 10 2012 01:12 Deletrious wrote: Jaedong has played insanely well versus Terran for a while, really want to see him versus Flash. Killer and Baby and obviously Sea have not performed all that well this proleague. Don't really see Team 8 winning.
baby hasn't performed well?!?? he started off with a 4-0 streak. lost his last two games to well-constructed builds. top 5 on PR
On January 10 2012 01:12 Deletrious wrote: Jaedong has played insanely well versus Terran for a while, really want to see him versus Flash. Killer and Baby and obviously Sea have not performed all that well this proleague. Don't really see Team 8 winning.
baby hasn't performed well?!?? he started off with a 4-0 streak. lost his last two games to well-constructed builds. top 5 on PR
Yep, you're right.
i am pretty worried about him, though, since he's so streaky. two straight losses could become a losing record over the next couple rounds. not sure the team could handle a slump from him
I wonder if hydes banner curse is gonna be there... Maybe doesn't work when both teams are on it, but stats CH and mind isn't on it so it looks promising to me :3
I hope both team's coaches acknowledge the need for JvF here and call each other to agree the best map for make one hell of a match between these two titans.
On January 10 2012 01:12 Deletrious wrote: Jaedong has played insanely well versus Terran for a while, really want to see him versus Flash. Killer and Baby and obviously Sea have not performed all that well this proleague. Don't really see Team 8 winning.
baby hasn't performed well?!?? he started off with a 4-0 streak. lost his last two games to well-constructed builds. top 5 on PR
Yep, you're right.
i am pretty worried about him, though, since he's so streaky. two straight losses could become a losing record over the next couple rounds. not sure the team could handle a slump from him
They absolutely couldn't win with him and Sea in a slump. And what about killer? I thought he was really hitting the gas and then this proleague he is 2 wins 3 losses.
On January 10 2012 00:57 GoTuNk! wrote: team 8 should win, everyone on KT is completely terrible at bw aside from stats/flash, and you can't really cheese effectively z v t -.-
i think u should watch your game in superleague (FAT vs some korean team - at least i think it was you who played last game?) before u start calling proffesional gamers horrible.. who are u to judge?
Ya, I lost to a at least 1500 fish korean that defeated sziky, proj7ect, jumperer, etc. Shame on me -.-. Anyway, I deeply respect all progamers but its obvious that when talking at progamer level, KT zergs are just a rank below. Not me judging, just some stats:
Your best Zerg statistically, ACTION: All: 74-84 (46.84%)
We have CH aswell: All: 37-46 (44.58%) Hoejja: 51-67 (43.22%) Perfective: 10-12 (45.45%)
Its also to note that all of them other than action have less than 40% winrate vs t, with perfective being 1-5 lol. Mind has more potential than any of them, and I'm sure many rookies aswell, they should start fielding them instead of trying that those guys cheese in z v p or win a z v z. I guess perfective seems to be actually good at z v p, though he haven't played really good protosses. Srsly, none of the above, maybe action, would get to play at all if they where on CJ, Woonjing or SKT, and would rarely appear on other teams.
I agree here. I think KT should give up on their regular zerg trio and play Mind and Wooki regularly and also give Perfective more time. Action, Crazy-Hydra, and Hoejja have proven that they will be always be lifetime sub 50% players. Its time to tryout a new regular line-up.
On January 10 2012 05:35 elagrion wrote: George_the_man, so Crazy Hydra is now good player or what? Change "terrible" to "mediocre" if you like.
My point... you missed it , My point was that calling progamer terrible at bw is just rude and offensive , everyone with progamer license is on lvl normal player cant even dream to get on they are the best players in the world actually , it was just about those 3 words .
Crazy Hydra is good ZvZer, and yeah hes mediocore with ZvP and ZvT, I also agree KT should not play zergs in their lineup because they are usually just playing bad Hope for Mind and Wooki to prove themselves but who knows , go KT , and let me study dont quote my posts and force me to answer lol
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