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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
January 01 2012 05:28 GMT
#541
BABY BABY BABY OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHRGASM
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 01 2012 05:28 GMT
#542
also wtf Last v Baby

CMON BABY
WriterXiao8~~
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 05:29:23
January 01 2012 05:28 GMT
#543
On January 01 2012 14:27 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 14:26 Kipsate wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:25 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:24 Kipsate wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:23 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:22 Kipsate wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:22 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:21 Kipsate wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:20 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:19 gulati wrote:
[quote]

circa pg15 of khan thread... long story ;;

edit: STOP WATTING ME Q_Q

i will just let you know my pony is judging you hard


My dick is hard

dota stop ignoring me on aye arr see


I am on IRC you just not msging me wtf

wtf are you not Kip[FuckProtoss ?


Ya thats me

why I no recieve your message

probably because u suqq diqq


suqq suqq

what are you wearing right now?

nothing


you have small pepe.

very very small...

ok enough with stupid spam.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
January 01 2012 05:28 GMT
#544
Who called for BaBy vs Last? Good call.
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
January 01 2012 05:28 GMT
#545
Justin Beiber! Too good.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
Kieofire
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1809 Posts
January 01 2012 05:28 GMT
#546
Last vs Baby

Should be a good TvT but Baby needs to win this.
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
January 01 2012 05:28 GMT
#547
On January 01 2012 14:27 o[twist] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 14:25 Shurayuki wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:23 o[twist] wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:18 Taekwon wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:09 o[twist] wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:07 Taekwon wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:03 KenNage wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:01 Taekwon wrote:
sea didn't play terribly at all -

he was surprised by the elevator but minimized losses
he blocked the reaver fantastically
he attempted vulture harasses but dear just had great sense
he had good decision making with the back door - he was only distracted by the recall

there was no way he could've saved the cc becuz his army was so far away- he knew that so he went forward,
dear got recall first - he had it planned

dear just had fantastic army positioning and game sense
he knew how to stay ahead in the game and cemented it


u say he didnt play terrible at all?... you gotta be kidding


Perhaps your willing to backup your argument instead of allowing your anger to blind you and act incoherently.

Also, I think you're messing up the semantics of my statement. He didn't play terribly at all as in, he didn't play to the point
of being terrible. In other words - quality wise instead of quantity wise. He played unfortunately. Not terrible.
Stop putting words in my mouth.


he played pretty badly - i'm usually very generous to T players but building the bunker out of range, being indecisive about his push, failing to repair the burning cc, etc. were all very bad. his reactions were good


Bunker range was a mistake - not a critical game maker. Sea effectively neutralized 12 nex and more - he could've easily destroyed the nexus if he wanted to but chose to play it safe and retreated his scvs very early upon seeing dear would probably not overextend his probes to defend it.

Also - positioning the bunker was to surprise dear - it wasnt in sight range. I'm actually shocked on how so many people don't realize or address this.

The push, again, was not indecisive - how can he push when dear had such an army movement? Which push btw? Because i would outright dismiss you if you were talking about the initial stages where an ARBITER was out and Sea was just building his port. Assuming the other points of the game, recall into natural counter - his backdoor force was taken out. You really have to put yourself in terran mindset. When the toss isnt playing standard big block army style especially, how in the world can you push?

I already addressed the CC - there was no way to save it, sea had CHOSEN to abandon it.
Although he could've theoretically had more assets to win had he saved it, he made the strategic decision to abandon a lost CC and chose to focus on the front. That's not a players fault, it's a choice he made and an unlucky outcome.

That's sea. good, but unlucky.


i disagree. destroying the nexus would have been a big deal. it's the difference between being ahead and being behind. as for what you say about the bunker placement - that doesn't matter - dear didn't have any units yet! if that was the reason behind the dumb bunker placement, it's just a dumb reason. everyone else who bunker rushes 12nex puts it in range. there's no reason sea shouldn't have.

as for the push, your army isn't doing anything when it's walking back and forth between the other guy's base and your own. whether he should have pushed or not pushed, he definitely shouldn't have vacillated.

as for the last thing, saying he made a choice doesn't make it a good choice.


if you destroy the 12nex you're still not really ahead to be fair, pretty much equal. but yeah he should've comitted to killing it (and showing no reaction when the goon arrived, ugh)


i've heard the line that you're not ahead after bunker rushing the 12nex but i don't think it makes mathematical sense. you're ahead on tech and you haven't committed 400 minerals into a dead nex.


well usually he would've had to keep his scvs around for prettsy long so i think that might be one reason. i'm mostly going by what everybody always says though yeah.

beiber in the house yo
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 01 2012 05:28 GMT
#548
On January 01 2012 14:25 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 14:24 Kipsate wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:23 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:22 Kipsate wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:22 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:21 Kipsate wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:20 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:19 gulati wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:18 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:17 gulati wrote:
YES the girl i want to fuck is bacK~~

wat


circa pg15 of khan thread... long story ;;

edit: STOP WATTING ME Q_Q

i will just let you know my pony is judging you hard


My dick is hard

dota stop ignoring me on aye arr see


I am on IRC you just not msging me wtf

wtf are you not Kip[FuckProtoss ?


Ya thats me

why I no recieve your message

probably because u suqq diqq

this spam >_> You're so lucky you don't got a report button
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
January 01 2012 05:28 GMT
#549
BABY BABY BABY OOOH!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
January 01 2012 05:28 GMT
#550
baby will never last against last
▲ ▲ ▲
Hero.SP
Profile Joined March 2010
Chile711 Posts
January 01 2012 05:28 GMT
#551
HAHAHAHAH BANELING BANELINGS BANELINGS
"well you know, the hardest part is the gg, I mean you have to be aware anytime your opponent can type gg, and you have to gg just right after him." - Flash
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
January 01 2012 05:28 GMT
#552
On January 01 2012 14:26 Sawamura wrote:
Live Report thread degrading in quality it seems.....


I blame flamewheel.
Jaedong :3
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
January 01 2012 05:28 GMT
#553
This TVT is about to better than sex... and porno.
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
January 01 2012 05:28 GMT
#554
BaBy way too good.
TheOnly92
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia804 Posts
January 01 2012 05:29 GMT
#555
Baby ezpz, he's crushing everyone this season.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2548 Posts
January 01 2012 05:29 GMT
#556
dah tvt -_-
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
January 01 2012 05:29 GMT
#557
On January 01 2012 14:27 Taekwon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 14:23 o[twist] wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:18 Taekwon wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:09 o[twist] wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:07 Taekwon wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:03 KenNage wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:01 Taekwon wrote:
sea didn't play terribly at all -

he was surprised by the elevator but minimized losses
he blocked the reaver fantastically
he attempted vulture harasses but dear just had great sense
he had good decision making with the back door - he was only distracted by the recall

there was no way he could've saved the cc becuz his army was so far away- he knew that so he went forward,
dear got recall first - he had it planned

dear just had fantastic army positioning and game sense
he knew how to stay ahead in the game and cemented it


u say he didnt play terrible at all?... you gotta be kidding


Perhaps your willing to backup your argument instead of allowing your anger to blind you and act incoherently.

Also, I think you're messing up the semantics of my statement. He didn't play terribly at all as in, he didn't play to the point
of being terrible. In other words - quality wise instead of quantity wise. He played unfortunately. Not terrible.
Stop putting words in my mouth.


he played pretty badly - i'm usually very generous to T players but building the bunker out of range, being indecisive about his push, failing to repair the burning cc, etc. were all very bad. his reactions were good


Bunker range was a mistake - not a critical game maker. Sea effectively neutralized 12 nex and more - he could've easily destroyed the nexus if he wanted to but chose to play it safe and retreated his scvs very early upon seeing dear would probably not overextend his probes to defend it.

Also - positioning the bunker was to surprise dear - it wasnt in sight range. I'm actually shocked on how so many people don't realize or address this.

The push, again, was not indecisive - how can he push when dear had such an army movement? Which push btw? Because i would outright dismiss you if you were talking about the initial stages where an ARBITER was out and Sea was just building his port. Assuming the other points of the game, recall into natural counter - his backdoor force was taken out. You really have to put yourself in terran mindset. When the toss isnt playing standard big block army style especially, how in the world can you push?

I already addressed the CC - there was no way to save it, sea had CHOSEN to abandon it.
Although he could've theoretically had more assets to win had he saved it, he made the strategic decision to abandon a lost CC and chose to focus on the front. That's not a players fault, it's a choice he made and an unlucky outcome.

That's sea. good, but unlucky.


i disagree. destroying the nexus would have been a big deal. it's the difference between being ahead and being behind. as for what you say about the bunker placement - that doesn't matter - dear didn't have any units yet! if that was the reason behind the dumb bunker placement, it's just a dumb reason. everyone else who bunker rushes 12nex puts it in range. there's no reason sea shouldn't have.

as for the push, your army isn't doing anything when it's walking back and forth between the other guy's base and your own. whether he should have pushed or not pushed, he definitely shouldn't have vacillated.

as for the last thing, saying he made a choice doesn't make it a good choice.


sigh. Sea. doesnt. know. that. other tosses make in range bunker rushes becuz their scout isn;t right on the first try. something sea happened to do. sea didnt scout ANYTHING in dears main. how the heck would he know unit comp or gate count or whether he went for core?

he didn't vacillate. he came out. retreated when arbs came out. split along with toss split. with vessel pushes out.
recall happens. goes to nat. splits. dear nat counters.

as for the choice, any terran basically lost that cc. your army is out in the center and u think u can save a cc? remmeber recall was super early researched?
even the commentators were talking about dear's decision to go to the farthest possible place sea could take care of the recall.


there's just no way to make the bad bunker placement make sense. the reason for the bunker placement is to put it in range of the nexus so it can take it down. there's literally no other reason. what happened was that he sat there waiting for goons to take it down. that will happen every time and there will be nothing to do with the marines and the bunker. it will be wasted resources that way.

it seems like you want to make it seem like sea was unlucky when what really happened was that he made decisions with a low probability of working out. sure, we can conceive of situations where they might have been good decisions, but in the main they wouldn't have been and that's a big reason why they turned out not to be.
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
January 01 2012 05:29 GMT
#558
On January 01 2012 14:28 Taekwon wrote:
baby will never last against last


I see what you did there
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
January 01 2012 05:29 GMT
#559
On January 01 2012 14:28 HighTemper wrote:
Who called for BaBy vs Last? Good call.


i did =), happy bday
ace hwaiting!!
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
January 01 2012 05:29 GMT
#560
Damn!!!! Last "i'm gonna ring with turrets the main of the dude who doesn't gg" vs BABY BABY BABY
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