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o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
January 01 2012 05:23 GMT
#501
On January 01 2012 14:18 Taekwon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 14:09 o[twist] wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:07 Taekwon wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:03 KenNage wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:01 Taekwon wrote:
sea didn't play terribly at all -

he was surprised by the elevator but minimized losses
he blocked the reaver fantastically
he attempted vulture harasses but dear just had great sense
he had good decision making with the back door - he was only distracted by the recall

there was no way he could've saved the cc becuz his army was so far away- he knew that so he went forward,
dear got recall first - he had it planned

dear just had fantastic army positioning and game sense
he knew how to stay ahead in the game and cemented it


u say he didnt play terrible at all?... you gotta be kidding


Perhaps your willing to backup your argument instead of allowing your anger to blind you and act incoherently.

Also, I think you're messing up the semantics of my statement. He didn't play terribly at all as in, he didn't play to the point
of being terrible. In other words - quality wise instead of quantity wise. He played unfortunately. Not terrible.
Stop putting words in my mouth.


he played pretty badly - i'm usually very generous to T players but building the bunker out of range, being indecisive about his push, failing to repair the burning cc, etc. were all very bad. his reactions were good


Bunker range was a mistake - not a critical game maker. Sea effectively neutralized 12 nex and more - he could've easily destroyed the nexus if he wanted to but chose to play it safe and retreated his scvs very early upon seeing dear would probably not overextend his probes to defend it.

Also - positioning the bunker was to surprise dear - it wasnt in sight range. I'm actually shocked on how so many people don't realize or address this.

The push, again, was not indecisive - how can he push when dear had such an army movement? Which push btw? Because i would outright dismiss you if you were talking about the initial stages where an ARBITER was out and Sea was just building his port. Assuming the other points of the game, recall into natural counter - his backdoor force was taken out. You really have to put yourself in terran mindset. When the toss isnt playing standard big block army style especially, how in the world can you push?

I already addressed the CC - there was no way to save it, sea had CHOSEN to abandon it.
Although he could've theoretically had more assets to win had he saved it, he made the strategic decision to abandon a lost CC and chose to focus on the front. That's not a players fault, it's a choice he made and an unlucky outcome.

That's sea. good, but unlucky.


i disagree. destroying the nexus would have been a big deal. it's the difference between being ahead and being behind. as for what you say about the bunker placement - that doesn't matter - dear didn't have any units yet! if that was the reason behind the dumb bunker placement, it's just a dumb reason. everyone else who bunker rushes 12nex puts it in range. there's no reason sea shouldn't have.

as for the push, your army isn't doing anything when it's walking back and forth between the other guy's base and your own. whether he should have pushed or not pushed, he definitely shouldn't have vacillated.

as for the last thing, saying he made a choice doesn't make it a good choice.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
January 01 2012 05:23 GMT
#502
wat happen game two

i was too busy responding to ragez.
▲ ▲ ▲
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
January 01 2012 05:23 GMT
#503
I sense an unstable influx of hormones.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
January 01 2012 05:23 GMT
#504
On January 01 2012 14:22 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 14:22 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:21 Kipsate wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:20 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:19 gulati wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:18 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:17 gulati wrote:
YES the girl i want to fuck is bacK~~

wat


circa pg15 of khan thread... long story ;;

edit: STOP WATTING ME Q_Q

i will just let you know my pony is judging you hard


My dick is hard

dota stop ignoring me on aye arr see


I am on IRC you just not msging me wtf

wtf are you not Kip[FuckProtoss ?
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
January 01 2012 05:24 GMT
#505
On January 01 2012 14:23 Taekwon wrote:
wat happen game two

i was too busy responding to ragez.


fatty rolled over skinny and skinny was dead

fatty = jd

skinny = modesty

win

p.s JD SITTIN ALONE SO BADASS
C r u m b l i n g
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 01 2012 05:24 GMT
#506
On January 01 2012 14:23 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 14:22 Kipsate wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:22 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:21 Kipsate wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:20 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:19 gulati wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:18 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:17 gulati wrote:
YES the girl i want to fuck is bacK~~

wat


circa pg15 of khan thread... long story ;;

edit: STOP WATTING ME Q_Q

i will just let you know my pony is judging you hard


My dick is hard

dota stop ignoring me on aye arr see


I am on IRC you just not msging me wtf

wtf are you not Kip[FuckProtoss ?


Ya thats me

why I no recieve your message
WriterXiao8~~
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51292 Posts
January 01 2012 05:24 GMT
#507
On January 01 2012 14:22 TheOnly92 wrote:
Let's keep this SFW okay?


NO!

my mule is judging Flamewheel's pony.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
January 01 2012 05:25 GMT
#508
Who was that Baseball Phone App girl!??!? I've dreamed of her this new year .. OMG!~~!!~!~!~!
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
January 01 2012 05:25 GMT
#509
On January 01 2012 14:24 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 14:23 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:22 Kipsate wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:22 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:21 Kipsate wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:20 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:19 gulati wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:18 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:17 gulati wrote:
YES the girl i want to fuck is bacK~~

wat


circa pg15 of khan thread... long story ;;

edit: STOP WATTING ME Q_Q

i will just let you know my pony is judging you hard


My dick is hard

dota stop ignoring me on aye arr see


I am on IRC you just not msging me wtf

wtf are you not Kip[FuckProtoss ?


Ya thats me

why I no recieve your message

probably because u suqq diqq
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
yepenaxa
Profile Joined July 2011
Belarus2280 Posts
January 01 2012 05:25 GMT
#510
jds voice is all grown up
War. Bloody War.
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
January 01 2012 05:25 GMT
#511
On January 01 2012 14:23 o[twist] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 14:18 Taekwon wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:09 o[twist] wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:07 Taekwon wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:03 KenNage wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:01 Taekwon wrote:
sea didn't play terribly at all -

he was surprised by the elevator but minimized losses
he blocked the reaver fantastically
he attempted vulture harasses but dear just had great sense
he had good decision making with the back door - he was only distracted by the recall

there was no way he could've saved the cc becuz his army was so far away- he knew that so he went forward,
dear got recall first - he had it planned

dear just had fantastic army positioning and game sense
he knew how to stay ahead in the game and cemented it


u say he didnt play terrible at all?... you gotta be kidding


Perhaps your willing to backup your argument instead of allowing your anger to blind you and act incoherently.

Also, I think you're messing up the semantics of my statement. He didn't play terribly at all as in, he didn't play to the point
of being terrible. In other words - quality wise instead of quantity wise. He played unfortunately. Not terrible.
Stop putting words in my mouth.


he played pretty badly - i'm usually very generous to T players but building the bunker out of range, being indecisive about his push, failing to repair the burning cc, etc. were all very bad. his reactions were good


Bunker range was a mistake - not a critical game maker. Sea effectively neutralized 12 nex and more - he could've easily destroyed the nexus if he wanted to but chose to play it safe and retreated his scvs very early upon seeing dear would probably not overextend his probes to defend it.

Also - positioning the bunker was to surprise dear - it wasnt in sight range. I'm actually shocked on how so many people don't realize or address this.

The push, again, was not indecisive - how can he push when dear had such an army movement? Which push btw? Because i would outright dismiss you if you were talking about the initial stages where an ARBITER was out and Sea was just building his port. Assuming the other points of the game, recall into natural counter - his backdoor force was taken out. You really have to put yourself in terran mindset. When the toss isnt playing standard big block army style especially, how in the world can you push?

I already addressed the CC - there was no way to save it, sea had CHOSEN to abandon it.
Although he could've theoretically had more assets to win had he saved it, he made the strategic decision to abandon a lost CC and chose to focus on the front. That's not a players fault, it's a choice he made and an unlucky outcome.

That's sea. good, but unlucky.


i disagree. destroying the nexus would have been a big deal. it's the difference between being ahead and being behind. as for what you say about the bunker placement - that doesn't matter - dear didn't have any units yet! if that was the reason behind the dumb bunker placement, it's just a dumb reason. everyone else who bunker rushes 12nex puts it in range. there's no reason sea shouldn't have.

as for the push, your army isn't doing anything when it's walking back and forth between the other guy's base and your own. whether he should have pushed or not pushed, he definitely shouldn't have vacillated.

as for the last thing, saying he made a choice doesn't make it a good choice.


if you destroy the 12nex you're still not really ahead to be fair, pretty much equal. but yeah he should've comitted to killing it (and showing no reaction when the goon arrived, ugh)
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 01 2012 05:26 GMT
#512
On January 01 2012 14:25 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 14:24 Kipsate wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:23 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:22 Kipsate wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:22 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:21 Kipsate wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:20 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:19 gulati wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:18 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:17 gulati wrote:
YES the girl i want to fuck is bacK~~

wat


circa pg15 of khan thread... long story ;;

edit: STOP WATTING ME Q_Q

i will just let you know my pony is judging you hard


My dick is hard

dota stop ignoring me on aye arr see


I am on IRC you just not msging me wtf

wtf are you not Kip[FuckProtoss ?


Ya thats me

why I no recieve your message

probably because u suqq diqq


suqq suqq

what are you wearing right now?
WriterXiao8~~
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
January 01 2012 05:26 GMT
#513
So Jaedong's counter to mutas, is lings
Sounds like Calm vs Bisu last year
The counter to mutas is more zealots
Tier one counters mutas guys
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Shiger
Profile Joined March 2008
Sweden118 Posts
January 01 2012 05:26 GMT
#514
the ling runby was so crucial
Quidios || Jaedong Symbol Kangho Hero Byun SOS Dear
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
January 01 2012 05:26 GMT
#515
Poor Modesty,

Having to play Flash and Jaedong back to back games. That's like getting your ass whipped, then going home to your dad, who beats your ass again for being weak.

As for my FPL... Next season fiiiiiiiiiiiiighting
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
January 01 2012 05:26 GMT
#516
On January 01 2012 14:23 mnesthes wrote:
I sense an unstable influx of hormones.


for some reason new years seems to do that specifically to people on tl
the courage to be a lazy bum
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
January 01 2012 05:26 GMT
#517
way to start the new year lol
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Celloist
Profile Joined June 2011
447 Posts
January 01 2012 05:26 GMT
#518
translation pls
The Messiah Cometh!
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
January 01 2012 05:26 GMT
#519
Live Report thread degrading in quality it seems.....
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
January 01 2012 05:26 GMT
#520
On January 01 2012 14:26 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 14:25 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:24 Kipsate wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:23 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:22 Kipsate wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:22 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:21 Kipsate wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:20 flamewheel wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:19 gulati wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:18 flamewheel wrote:
[quote]
wat


circa pg15 of khan thread... long story ;;

edit: STOP WATTING ME Q_Q

i will just let you know my pony is judging you hard


My dick is hard

dota stop ignoring me on aye arr see


I am on IRC you just not msging me wtf

wtf are you not Kip[FuckProtoss ?


Ya thats me

why I no recieve your message

probably because u suqq diqq


suqq suqq

what are you wearing right now?


u all so drunk, why i no drunk?
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
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