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myrtleturtle
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria14 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 21:08:03
April 01 2012 20:14 GMT
#961
On April 02 2012 05:09 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 05:06 myrtleturtle wrote:
When does cast today start?

No cast today.

ok thank you ^^

edit: why is there no cast today anyway?
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
April 01 2012 21:46 GMT
#962
On April 02 2012 05:14 myrtleturtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 05:09 Eywa- wrote:
On April 02 2012 05:06 myrtleturtle wrote:
When does cast today start?

No cast today.

ok thank you ^^

edit: why is there no cast today anyway?


I didn't want to cast it. Combination of the only game being played today has no standings on overall results, and because I already did an unexpected gambit cup cast on Friday.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 22:23:59
April 01 2012 22:21 GMT
#963
On April 01 2012 18:41 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 18:36 LML wrote:
I am not trying to stir up dirt.. it's just that you try to bash the iFU leaders with a screenshot and the manner in which you posted it, when the screenshot clearly shows exactly what they have been complaining about.

On a sidenote, Game's post was 23h, not 23.5h before the CW, and the rule also says "24hours or less before a CW", not an individual set in which a player might be used.

And the CW started at the time of the ss.

iFU complained because they thought CaStrO was added at the time of the first game.



Just be honest as LML pointed out YOUR OWN RULING states; within 24 hours of the CLANWAR not the specific set, seriously man you get defensive when you can't even back up your side of the argument, you clearly made a mistake and there are definitely inconsistencies. The fact that I was unrelated or not a team leader has nothing to do with this, just a cheap deflect of yourself to save face. In the end, this seriously puts a lot of stress on the scene as there has been way too much shady schemes going down and accusations, everyone is a dodger of these responsibilities when we should just take them head on.

edit: I will also add your remarks for "DRAMA" spoilers is pretty insulting to iFu, you are the final decision maker for every incident so might as well be professional about it since it shouldn't affect your judgement.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 22:27:44
April 01 2012 22:22 GMT
#964
On April 01 2012 23:46 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 18:36 LML wrote:
I am not trying to stir up dirt.. it's just that you try to bash the iFU leaders with a screenshot and the manner in which you posted it, when the screenshot clearly shows exactly what they have been complaining about.

On a sidenote, Game's post was 23h, not 23.5h before the CW, and the rule also says "24hours or less before a CW", not an individual set in which a player might be used.

Totally 23.383333 hours before the CW. Honestly this debate is pointless as can be.



If you were on the other end I AM 100% POSITIVE that there would at least be more administrative concern. We don't care if the organizers are bias but as least keep consistency.

On April 02 2012 02:07 skzlime wrote:
actually no, it isn't, since eywa himself admitted that the rules were bent, even if to the smallest extent. i think you should just quote 1) and be done with it, really no need for these bullshit explanations.
1) Rules Concerning Decisions and Over-Rulings
- All teams and players are subject to administrative Discretion.
- Eywa- reserves full discretion over all decisions and procedures.
there, i doubt any remaining team will withdraw from the league in protest lol. can we just move on now please

You are wiser than us, but it's still frustrating to have to see this so often.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
April 01 2012 22:27 GMT
#965
On April 02 2012 07:21 dRaW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 18:41 Eywa- wrote:
On April 01 2012 18:36 LML wrote:
I am not trying to stir up dirt.. it's just that you try to bash the iFU leaders with a screenshot and the manner in which you posted it, when the screenshot clearly shows exactly what they have been complaining about.

On a sidenote, Game's post was 23h, not 23.5h before the CW, and the rule also says "24hours or less before a CW", not an individual set in which a player might be used.

And the CW started at the time of the ss.

iFU complained because they thought CaStrO was added at the time of the first game.



Just be honest as LML pointed out YOUR OWN RULING states; within 24 hours of the CLANWAR not the specific set, seriously man you get defensive when you can't even back up your side of the argument, you clearly made a mistake and there are definitely inconsistencies. The fact that I was unrelated or not a team leader has nothing to do with this, just a cheap deflect of yourself to save face. In the end, this seriously puts a lot of stress on the scene as there has been way too much shady schemes going down and accusations, everyone is a dodger of these responsibilities when we should just take them head on.

edit: I will also add your remarks for "DRAMA" spoilers is pretty insulting to iFu, you are the final decision maker for every incident so might as well be professional about it since it shouldn't affect your judgement.

You really are going to use a 37 minute window of time to try to call him an unprofessional, bad, and cheating organizer? Holy shit you're dumber than I ever could've thought.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 22:29:18
April 01 2012 22:28 GMT
#966
On April 02 2012 07:22 dRaW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 23:46 Game wrote:
On April 01 2012 18:36 LML wrote:
I am not trying to stir up dirt.. it's just that you try to bash the iFU leaders with a screenshot and the manner in which you posted it, when the screenshot clearly shows exactly what they have been complaining about.

On a sidenote, Game's post was 23h, not 23.5h before the CW, and the rule also says "24hours or less before a CW", not an individual set in which a player might be used.

Totally 23.383333 hours before the CW. Honestly this debate is pointless as can be.

You're entitled to your opinion, which is generally wrong.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
April 01 2012 22:29 GMT
#967
On April 02 2012 07:27 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 07:21 dRaW wrote:
On April 01 2012 18:41 Eywa- wrote:
On April 01 2012 18:36 LML wrote:
I am not trying to stir up dirt.. it's just that you try to bash the iFU leaders with a screenshot and the manner in which you posted it, when the screenshot clearly shows exactly what they have been complaining about.

On a sidenote, Game's post was 23h, not 23.5h before the CW, and the rule also says "24hours or less before a CW", not an individual set in which a player might be used.

And the CW started at the time of the ss.

iFU complained because they thought CaStrO was added at the time of the first game.



Just be honest as LML pointed out YOUR OWN RULING states; within 24 hours of the CLANWAR not the specific set, seriously man you get defensive when you can't even back up your side of the argument, you clearly made a mistake and there are definitely inconsistencies. The fact that I was unrelated or not a team leader has nothing to do with this, just a cheap deflect of yourself to save face. In the end, this seriously puts a lot of stress on the scene as there has been way too much shady schemes going down and accusations, everyone is a dodger of these responsibilities when we should just take them head on.

edit: I will also add your remarks for "DRAMA" spoilers is pretty insulting to iFu, you are the final decision maker for every incident so might as well be professional about it since it shouldn't affect your judgement.

You really are going to use a 37 minute window of time to try to call him an unprofessional, bad, and cheating organizer? Holy shit you're dumber than I ever could've thought.


The decision was made extremely quickly without a second thought, if LRM was on the other end of that definitely there would at least be some review and I bet we'd see some changes being made afterwards. Also, if any other person not including yourself or eywa can honestly disagree with me then I would agree with your side of the argument(actually excluding noOne although he normally seems neutral) but seems like you guys go hand in hand every time these occurrences happen. [[ note: seems like the problems always are with LRM, surprise? ]]
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 22:32:26
April 01 2012 22:31 GMT
#968
On April 02 2012 07:29 dRaW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 07:27 Game wrote:
On April 02 2012 07:21 dRaW wrote:
On April 01 2012 18:41 Eywa- wrote:
On April 01 2012 18:36 LML wrote:
I am not trying to stir up dirt.. it's just that you try to bash the iFU leaders with a screenshot and the manner in which you posted it, when the screenshot clearly shows exactly what they have been complaining about.

On a sidenote, Game's post was 23h, not 23.5h before the CW, and the rule also says "24hours or less before a CW", not an individual set in which a player might be used.

And the CW started at the time of the ss.

iFU complained because they thought CaStrO was added at the time of the first game.



Just be honest as LML pointed out YOUR OWN RULING states; within 24 hours of the CLANWAR not the specific set, seriously man you get defensive when you can't even back up your side of the argument, you clearly made a mistake and there are definitely inconsistencies. The fact that I was unrelated or not a team leader has nothing to do with this, just a cheap deflect of yourself to save face. In the end, this seriously puts a lot of stress on the scene as there has been way too much shady schemes going down and accusations, everyone is a dodger of these responsibilities when we should just take them head on.

edit: I will also add your remarks for "DRAMA" spoilers is pretty insulting to iFu, you are the final decision maker for every incident so might as well be professional about it since it shouldn't affect your judgement.

You really are going to use a 37 minute window of time to try to call him an unprofessional, bad, and cheating organizer? Holy shit you're dumber than I ever could've thought.


The decision was made extremely quickly without a second thought, if LRM was on the other end of that definitely there would at least be some review and I bet we'd see some changes being made afterwards. Also, if any other person not including yourself or eywa can honestly disagree with me then I would agree with your side of the argument(actually excluding noOne although he normally seems neutral) but seems like you guys go hand in hand every time these occurrences happen. [[ note: seems like the problems always are with LRM, surprise? ]]

I know of no problems with LRM), and for further forum use, you should probably source issues before attempting to defame and entire team's integrity you silly little child.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 01 2012 22:34 GMT
#969
On April 02 2012 07:21 dRaW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 18:41 Eywa- wrote:
On April 01 2012 18:36 LML wrote:
I am not trying to stir up dirt.. it's just that you try to bash the iFU leaders with a screenshot and the manner in which you posted it, when the screenshot clearly shows exactly what they have been complaining about.

On a sidenote, Game's post was 23h, not 23.5h before the CW, and the rule also says "24hours or less before a CW", not an individual set in which a player might be used.

And the CW started at the time of the ss.

iFU complained because they thought CaStrO was added at the time of the first game.



Just be honest as LML pointed out YOUR OWN RULING states; within 24 hours of the CLANWAR not the specific set, seriously man you get defensive when you can't even back up your side of the argument, you clearly made a mistake and there are definitely inconsistencies. The fact that I was unrelated or not a team leader has nothing to do with this, just a cheap deflect of yourself to save face. In the end, this seriously puts a lot of stress on the scene as there has been way too much shady schemes going down and accusations, everyone is a dodger of these responsibilities when we should just take them head on.

edit: I will also add your remarks for "DRAMA" spoilers is pretty insulting to iFu, you are the final decision maker for every incident so might as well be professional about it since it shouldn't affect your judgement.

Let's be honest here, you're once again commenting on a topic that is totally irrelevant to you which you were not present for and you know nothing about... Nothing out of the ordinary so far.

As far as the case itself, iFU's claim was that CaStrO was added at the very beginning of the clan war. Which I denied and thus, I was not wrong, their claim was false. A screen shot was then presented to them well over an hour before CaStrO played. What does this mean? iFU's leadership either didn't care or was too ignorant to pay attention to their own clan war, either way, this is not a problem of mine. Seriously DraW, your post history in this thread is somewhat terrible and you have no real facts to back up what you're saying aside from "gossip".

Realistically, if I were to have applied the rules to their fullest extent many other things would have taken place, in fact, iFU would likely not be fielding a full line up next Saturday if I did. Let's be real here, yes, I'm trying to run a professional league, yes, I bend the rules at least once per week, but there is no favoritism to which these rules get bent towards, in fact, the rules have been bent more for iFU than for any other team (that being BM rules).

Your creating drama here accomplishes nothing, seriously... It's a blatant attempt to destroy solid foundation whether that was your mindset or not, I cannot tell, but the comment does no more than that.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
April 01 2012 22:36 GMT
#970
On April 02 2012 07:34 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 07:21 dRaW wrote:
On April 01 2012 18:41 Eywa- wrote:
On April 01 2012 18:36 LML wrote:
I am not trying to stir up dirt.. it's just that you try to bash the iFU leaders with a screenshot and the manner in which you posted it, when the screenshot clearly shows exactly what they have been complaining about.

On a sidenote, Game's post was 23h, not 23.5h before the CW, and the rule also says "24hours or less before a CW", not an individual set in which a player might be used.

And the CW started at the time of the ss.

iFU complained because they thought CaStrO was added at the time of the first game.



Just be honest as LML pointed out YOUR OWN RULING states; within 24 hours of the CLANWAR not the specific set, seriously man you get defensive when you can't even back up your side of the argument, you clearly made a mistake and there are definitely inconsistencies. The fact that I was unrelated or not a team leader has nothing to do with this, just a cheap deflect of yourself to save face. In the end, this seriously puts a lot of stress on the scene as there has been way too much shady schemes going down and accusations, everyone is a dodger of these responsibilities when we should just take them head on.

edit: I will also add your remarks for "DRAMA" spoilers is pretty insulting to iFu, you are the final decision maker for every incident so might as well be professional about it since it shouldn't affect your judgement.

Let's be honest here, you're once again commenting on a topic that is totally irrelevant to you which you were not present for and you know nothing about... Nothing out of the ordinary so far.

As far as the case itself, iFU's claim was that CaStrO was added at the very beginning of the clan war. Which I denied and thus, I was not wrong, their claim was false. A screen shot was then presented to them well over an hour before CaStrO played. What does this mean? iFU's leadership either didn't care or was too ignorant to pay attention to their own clan war, either way, this is not a problem of mine. Seriously DraW, your post history in this thread is somewhat terrible and you have no real facts to back up what you're saying aside from "gossip".

Realistically, if I were to have applied the rules to their fullest extent many other things would have taken place, in fact, iFU would likely not be fielding a full line up next Saturday if I did. Let's be real here, yes, I'm trying to run a professional league, yes, I bend the rules at least once per week, but there is no favoritism to which these rules get bent towards, in fact, the rules have been bent more for iFU than for any other team (that being BM rules).

Your creating drama here accomplishes nothing, seriously... It's a blatant attempt to destroy solid foundation whether that was your mindset or not, I cannot tell, but the comment does no more than that.

No idea why you are still explaining anything to one single person who is clearly attempting to create drama. His posts going without warning thus far is simply a miracle. Remember, you're talking to the guy who made this thread with his troll buddies.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 01 2012 22:40 GMT
#971
Playoff matches are as follow:

Friday, 19CET
LRM vs reps)

Friday, 20CET
sas vs iFU

< Match Point >
< Jade >
< Neo Aztec >
< Gladiator >
< La Mancha >
< Circuit Breaker >
< Match Point >
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
iFU.ZerGgBoY
Profile Joined June 2011
Russian Federation62 Posts
April 01 2012 23:00 GMT
#972
i am not posting here or i get ban immediately... as it always happen!

but i just state 1 thing. my team is pissed of misjudging and the fact that all rules work for ifu only and never for lrm). this fact is noticed by all. ur long posts doesnt change this fact!

so we wont participate next season for sure if smth wont change... (how can smth change if orgas and lrm)game go hand by hand as sas.draw already said)

eleminating our best player iFU.Alfio with lagger peruvian Castro(that was not even allowed to play) from playoffs is seriously GG to my team. Bad thing that whole bw community know that peruvians lag... and Castro lags worse then koreans(that are banned from this league).

my team will decide soon if we boycott the playoffs or not! but we already up to do this!

i dont ask eywa- to change smth about our cw vs lrm) .... i dont care we lost ... np!

but atleast make the playoffs look entertaining and worth to watch... let my player iFU.Alfio play. He already sad about his BM and wont act like this anymore.

if u gonna make next season of gambit please include peruvians to the list of banned countries. i dont try to be racist. seriously. but YOU ALL know that playing them is like playing chess not bw.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 01 2012 23:14 GMT
#973
reps)gag has been added to the reps) roster, thus, also removed from iwL's roster. This is the final roster change permitted for reps).
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
reps)Plumbum
Profile Joined July 2011
Russian Federation484 Posts
April 01 2012 23:17 GMT
#974
On April 02 2012 08:14 Eywa- wrote:
reps)gag has been added to the reps) roster, thus, also removed from iwL's roster. This is the final roster change permitted for reps).


WHY THE FUCK YOU MAKE ROSTER CHANGES IN MY TEAM W/O ASKING ME ?????????????
+ Show Spoiler +
ty
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 01 2012 23:18 GMT
#975
On April 02 2012 08:17 reps)Plumbum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 08:14 Eywa- wrote:
reps)gag has been added to the reps) roster, thus, also removed from iwL's roster. This is the final roster change permitted for reps).


WHY THE FUCK YOU MAKE ROSTER CHANGES IN MY TEAM W/O ASKING ME ?????????????
+ Show Spoiler +
ty

+ Show Spoiler +
Queen Troll indeed
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
iFU.ZerGgBoY
Profile Joined June 2011
Russian Federation62 Posts
April 02 2012 13:29 GMT
#976
is there a playoff rules somewhere ? or they will appear from nowhere when my team fuck-ups ? link plz!
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 02 2012 17:40 GMT
#977
On April 02 2012 22:29 iFU.ZerGgBoY wrote:
is there a playoff rules somewhere ? or they will appear from nowhere when my team fuck-ups ? link plz!



...Why are you complaining? Alfio was BM not once but THREE times. And you're mad he was suspended?

To be honest if I was Eywa- I would suspended you a second time for BM not only against Eywa in these past couple post but Castro and peruvians.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
reps)Plumbum
Profile Joined July 2011
Russian Federation484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 17:48:08
April 02 2012 17:46 GMT
#978
On April 02 2012 08:00 iFU.ZerGgBoY wrote:
i am not posting here or i get ban immediately... as it always happen!

but i just state 1 thing. my team is pissed of misjudging and the fact that all rules work for ifu only and never for lrm). this fact is noticed by all. ur long posts doesnt change this fact!

so we wont participate next season for sure if smth wont change... (how can smth change if orgas and lrm)game go hand by hand as sas.draw already said)

eleminating our best player iFU.Alfio with lagger peruvian Castro(that was not even allowed to play) from playoffs is seriously GG to my team. Bad thing that whole bw community know that peruvians lag... and Castro lags worse then koreans(that are banned from this league).

my team will decide soon if we boycott the playoffs or not! but we already up to do this!

i dont ask eywa- to change smth about our cw vs lrm) .... i dont care we lost ... np!

but atleast make the playoffs look entertaining and worth to watch... let my player iFU.Alfio play. He already sad about his BM and wont act like this anymore.

if u gonna make next season of gambit please include peruvians to the list of banned countries. i dont try to be racist. seriously. but YOU ALL know that playing them is like playing chess not bw.


i dont give a fuck about Alfio and other bm members of iFU, BUT i'd like to confirm that ZB is absolutely right about that Peruvian players lag a lot. Its like 90% players from Peru lags VERY hard. So that is the spot to be discussed, imo.

edit : i know only that Terror doesn't lag.
iFU.ZerGgBoY
Profile Joined June 2011
Russian Federation62 Posts
April 02 2012 17:53 GMT
#979
Shotcoder i would like to see if u stay calm and manner when u lose to a less skilled guy cause of lag in an important match of the league. u eat it and say "gg". all okey! i am really happy to lose to a 'gosu guy'! can i pay u for lessons in bw?
yellowsmile
Profile Joined October 2011
United States293 Posts
April 02 2012 17:59 GMT
#980
any team wants to take me?!
i am Modesty^^
Modesty/widowkiller_
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