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On March 30 2012 12:12 GoTuNk! wrote:
I'm all for what Eywa said, but I meant more of casters doing some background check. This teams played 3 times, score went XX, sziky did an all kill, bla bla. Then moving on to maps, like first map is outlier so no terrans, etc.
Kinda what they do in proleague I guess?
I'm sure all teams will be up for post game win interviews lol.
I don't think people want the cast to be delayed anymore than is necessary. I mean if it was of proleauge quality, sure. But I don't have proleague's player data/ wealth of games to refer back to/ fancy graphics/background music/two other people to talk with.
So then I can try to get that information out during the opening builds, but it's harder than it looks. I don't know who the first players are until the viewer does, because everything is anti-spolered, so I would have to go off of memory. And having to remember a new set of 40 records (which I have to calculate myself because we don't have a tlpd) for the 4 teams I will be casting that day is unrealistic. I tend to talk about team records and their general standings in the beginning, but that takes about 30 seconds and doesn't change for the rest of the set.
As for the maps... I cast aztec 10 times a week. It's a three player map, it's bad for terran, there is a small ramp that people get trapped trying to go up, and the reverse ramp is a bitch. I can't say that 10 times a week though. If I was casting Un'gorto crater or bakojomi then sure, I would have fun things to say. But it's the same maps every week that everyone already knows. I can say a little about it, but I try not to say too much for the same reason I don't explain why bio is bad vP: because everyone already knows, and it would get horribly repetitive if I talked about it every time there was a tvp (actually, considering how few terrans there are, maybe that was a bad example  )
It also doesn't help that the majority of my gambit cup matches this month have been me filling in for lmaster last minute, so I didn't have time to prepare anything magical anyway.
As for the interviews, I don't think pregame interviews a a good idea. Again, people want to just get to the starcraft, and They won't have much to say. As for post game ones, maybe, but I'm a bit skeptical. Logistics will be a nightmare. Not everyone speaks English as well as you gotunk. A lot of the best players don't have mics. By the time the cast ends, it will be like 1 am for Europe, so odds are a lot of them won't stick around till the end to be interviewed. If there were no problems, it could be cool, but assuming there will be no problems is a giant leap.
I'm not opposed to improving my casts, but there are a lot of things that make casting harder than is initially apparent. If you have practical ways to implement these ideas, I'd be glad to hear them, but I haven't figured out a way yet.
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I think all you can do is get more general data since you don't have immediate access to graph charts unless you had them somewhere on a side-tab (assuming someone formulated them)
i.e total win % for that m.u in Gambit on that map, and past CW history between the two playing teams.
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For iFU Please note, I won't be doing this every time you guys shout out abuse...
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On March 31 2012 03:42 Eywa- wrote:For iFU Please note, I won't be doing this every time you guys shout out abuse...
lol'd so hard
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On March 31 2012 03:49 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 03:42 Eywa- wrote:For iFU Please note, I won't be doing this every time you guys shout out abuse... lol'd so hard
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event is live! LRM vs iFU/Nb vs iwL!
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On March 31 2012 06:28 Eywa- wrote:
event is live! LRM vs iFU/Nb vs iwL!
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+ Show Spoiler [Drama] +
iFU.AlfiO takes his third BM offense of the season and receives a 6 CW suspension. This suspension will drag on into the next season of the Gambit's Cup if applicable. Applies to playoffs as well.
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On March 31 2012 03:42 Eywa- wrote:For iFU Please note, I won't be doing this every time you guys shout out abuse...
Considering the local time on your PC shows 2.23PM and that means the post of Game was less than 24hours before that and guessing that this screenshot was made after the CW started, this roster change wasn't done 24hours before the CW and hence not applicable by rules?
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On March 31 2012 17:51 LML wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 03:42 Eywa- wrote:For iFU Please note, I won't be doing this every time you guys shout out abuse... Considering the local time on your PC shows 2.23PM and that means the post of Game was less than 24hours before that and guessing that this screenshot was made after the CW started, this roster change wasn't done 24hours before the CW and hence not applicable by rules?
edit: yeah I thought same
9) Rules Concerning Roster Changes
- There will be no roster changes 24 hours or less before a Clan War and/or PP Set.
but you know, if the result stands whereas in other clanwar such as Gt vs LRM in which jumper won and was in the cast had his game reversed because he didn't send in the replay (when he could have at any time if asked) something a little shady going down. I mean it's down to administration choice at the end, but at least please be consistent otherwise on the other people's end it looks like the league is fixed.
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On March 31 2012 17:51 LML wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 03:42 Eywa- wrote:For iFU Please note, I won't be doing this every time you guys shout out abuse... Considering the local time on your PC shows 2.23PM and that means the post of Game was less than 24hours before that and guessing that this screenshot was made after the CW started, this roster change wasn't done 24hours before the CW and hence not applicable by rules?
Hmmm... You're actually right. CaStrO was added 23 hours, 30 minutes before the SS was taken, a fact that I had not really taken into account. However, he had not played till 4 sets later which means it was well over 24 hours before his game. In fact, you're trying to stir something up when the leader of the opposing team didn't even care enough to say anything about that 1/2 hour... Honestly, yeah, the rule was bent to the smallest extent, something that has been performed to a larger extent for such teams as dM, AoV, reps) and Nb. So, I mean, please don't go try and stir up dirt when it's hypocritical to do so (Some of these add-on were performed hours before the clan war. So, if you want to say it was wrong to do so, I really couldn't care less, I rather see games than no games (doesn't apply to LRM's case obviously), but given the ss is 1/2 hour before the 24 hour mark... I really don't see how that is a case for you to go on (1/2 hour off the start of the first game...).
tl;dr? You're not the leader of iFU, the leaders of iFU all had this at their disposal long before CaStrO came out onto the playing field, not one of them complained.
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On March 31 2012 21:39 dRaW wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 17:51 LML wrote:On March 31 2012 03:42 Eywa- wrote:For iFU Please note, I won't be doing this every time you guys shout out abuse... Considering the local time on your PC shows 2.23PM and that means the post of Game was less than 24hours before that and guessing that this screenshot was made after the CW started, this roster change wasn't done 24hours before the CW and hence not applicable by rules? edit: yeah I thought same 9) Rules Concerning Roster Changes - There will be no roster changes 24 hours or less before a Clan War and/or PP Set. but you know, if the result stands whereas in other clanwar such as Gt vs LRM in which jumper won and was in the cast had his game reversed because he didn't send in the replay (when he could have at any time if asked) something a little shady going down. I mean it's down to administration choice at the end, but at least please be consistent otherwise on the other people's end it looks like the league is fixed.
Please finish your plate before you come posting here, you're not even a team leader, you're not on any of the teams you have named, you have no idea how stuff happens. I have always asked team leaders to send in their replays if they've been missing, teams which this apply to are Gt, iwL and Nb. I'll go out and ask for replays, in the case you're talking about, SneazeL had no case for Jumper and Jumper posted later apologizing.
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On April 01 2012 09:22 Eywa- wrote:
Please finish your plate before you come posting here
god damn it eywa... that's not even close
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On April 01 2012 09:56 hacklebeast wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 09:22 Eywa- wrote:
Please finish your plate before you come posting here
god damn it eywa... that's not even close
 shame on your cow for pointing that out.
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I am not trying to stir up dirt.. it's just that you try to bash the iFU leaders with a screenshot and the manner in which you posted it, when the screenshot clearly shows exactly what they have been complaining about.
On a sidenote, Game's post was 23h, not 23.5h before the CW, and the rule also says "24hours or less before a CW", not an individual set in which a player might be used.
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On April 01 2012 18:36 LML wrote:
I am not trying to stir up dirt.. it's just that you try to bash the iFU leaders with a screenshot and the manner in which you posted it, when the screenshot clearly shows exactly what they have been complaining about.
On a sidenote, Game's post was 23h, not 23.5h before the CW, and the rule also says "24hours or less before a CW", not an individual set in which a player might be used.
And the CW started at the time of the ss.
iFU complained because they thought CaStrO was added at the time of the first game.
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On April 01 2012 18:36 LML wrote:
I am not trying to stir up dirt.. it's just that you try to bash the iFU leaders with a screenshot and the manner in which you posted it, when the screenshot clearly shows exactly what they have been complaining about.
On a sidenote, Game's post was 23h, not 23.5h before the CW, and the rule also says "24hours or less before a CW", not an individual set in which a player might be used.
Totally 23.383333 hours before the CW. Honestly this debate is pointless as can be.
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actually no, it isn't, since eywa himself admitted that the rules were bent, even if to the smallest extent. i think you should just quote 1) and be done with it, really no need for these bullshit explanations.
1) Rules Concerning Decisions and Over-Rulings
- All teams and players are subject to administrative Discretion.
- Eywa- reserves full discretion over all decisions and procedures.
there, i doubt any remaining team will withdraw from the league in protest lol. can we just move on now please
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When does cast today start?
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On April 02 2012 05:06 myrtleturtle wrote:
When does cast today start?
No cast today.
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EPT
