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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
July 28 2011 12:05 GMT
#561
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Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
July 28 2011 12:05 GMT
#562
Crap I'm pulling an all-nighter trying to do work, get distracted, and Stork doesn't advance 2-0

He'd better get past this group ><
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
July 28 2011 12:05 GMT
#563
You can't blame the Zerg players from cashing in while they can. It's up to the Toss players to find a solution to this prob.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2349 Posts
July 28 2011 12:05 GMT
#564
Stork play against Zerg is as bad as ever. He is closer and closer to have 50% PvZ life record...
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
July 28 2011 12:06 GMT
#565
On July 28 2011 21:04 Motivate wrote:
so much zerg hate here

It's because we're sick and tired of seeing hydra busts ALL the time in PvZ nowadays. :|
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
July 28 2011 12:06 GMT
#566
On July 28 2011 21:04 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
That's right. Fast expo should not be tolerated in any way.

Somebody will figure out how to counter this 3 hatch hydra business which will prompt zergs to do less 3 hatch hydra which will prompt toss to go FFE again etc. etc. It's not the end of the world, just the current PvZ metagame.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
poisui
Profile Joined July 2011
1088 Posts
July 28 2011 12:06 GMT
#567
On July 28 2011 21:04 Gamegene wrote:
What did that Stargate accomplish? It made one corsair and killed one overlord.

He needed the corsair to scout.
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
July 28 2011 12:06 GMT
#568
On July 28 2011 21:05 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:
You can't blame the Zerg players from cashing in while they can. It's up to the Toss players to find a solution to this prob.

exactly

bisu has proven time and time again that pvz is a very viable match up. a player of stork's calibre should not be losing to hydra busts especially when scouted.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
July 28 2011 12:07 GMT
#569
I remember the start of the season why Zealot sair was raping zergs left and right

Now this 3 hatch hydra into econ play once u done enough damage
In the woods, there lurks..
zmeqt
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria527 Posts
July 28 2011 12:07 GMT
#570
It's not a good thing right now,but the metagame in zvp shifting to hydra den first can be good in the long run for protoss.If someone can come up with appropriate oppening for the protoss that is.I always though FE was a little bit favorite for zergs.
the slogans
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
July 28 2011 12:07 GMT
#571
On July 28 2011 21:06 Spica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 21:04 Motivate wrote:
so much zerg hate here

It's because we're sick and tired of seeing hydra busts ALL the time in PvZ nowadays. :|

meh, they're professionals and it works, onus is on the protoss to work out a way to stop it imo
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
July 28 2011 12:07 GMT
#572
Stork deserved to lose. Bad play. And seriously, wtf is it with the late probe pull???

Oh, the Hydras that I already scouted are attacking my cannon(s). Lets keep mining. Oh, the Hydras won who would have thought? And my cannons are gone, NOW is a good time to pull my probes. Because why should I fight with both together when I can just as well leave the cannons unguarded and then fight with Probes alone.

this happens so fucking often in ZvP
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
July 28 2011 12:08 GMT
#573
NOoooooooooo commander T_T
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
July 28 2011 12:08 GMT
#574
stork.....
by the way, congrats Roro.
Learn,live and love it.
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
July 28 2011 12:09 GMT
#575
3 hat hydra most dangerous, hit some cannons before storm and destroy econ, take out gateway and forge to slow down protoss. Zerg should do it every game. Scout or not is not the main issue, they just have micro the hydras.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 28 2011 12:09 GMT
#576
On July 28 2011 21:02 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 21:00 kuroshiroi wrote:
Templar archives without a gateway? Interesting.

Edit: Oh, he does have a gateway.


It's an S-class build, we normal dudes can't comprehend this at all.

Do you mean that it's an advanced strategy?
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4148 Posts
July 28 2011 12:09 GMT
#577
On July 28 2011 21:06 kuroshiroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 21:04 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
That's right. Fast expo should not be tolerated in any way.

Somebody will figure out how to counter this 3 hatch hydra business which will prompt zergs to do less 3 hatch hydra which will prompt toss to go FFE again etc. etc. It's not the end of the world, just the current PvZ metagame.


well its not only PvZ FE that pisses me off. All other non-mirror match-ups are the same shit. Somehow we need to understand that going FE sometimes can cause you a game too, because this is not bullet-proof. I think some flexibility and variety in strategy wouldn't be bad at all.
Drone is a way of living
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
July 28 2011 12:09 GMT
#578
out of interest, why is 3 hatch hydra preferred over 2 hatch hydra? i haven't seen 2 hatch hydra in ages... is it really that bad a build?
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3621 Posts
July 28 2011 12:10 GMT
#579
On July 28 2011 21:07 Iplaythings wrote:
I remember the start of the season why Zealot sair was raping zergs left and right

Now this 3 hatch hydra into econ play once u done enough damage


It might help if P would be willing to go back to a little safer play. Almost all P are playing only 1 early cannon at this point, where 2 are sometimes (usually?) necessary just to get enough "buffer" to get others up if hydras come.

That, or building zealots in time (like Paralyze did). That would help too.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13092 Posts
July 28 2011 12:10 GMT
#580
Protoss need to change something. 3 hatch hydra is way too common and it got over 70% winrate lately.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
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