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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
July 22 2011 12:20 GMT
#941
On July 22 2011 21:19 Bleak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:15 Lightwip wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:12 Bleak wrote:
Normally I watch SC2 and busts like this happen all the time and I've heard BW was different.

So, my question is:

1) It feels to me like Protoss player did have too many Corsairs, not enough units. Did Z player capitalize on this? Is that why the bust worked?
2) Do attacks like this frequently happen, or are they rare?

1. Reavers are usually able to defend against this, but they need enough support. Jangbi should've gotten D web to stop the hydras.
2. They always attack like this when the toss goes Sair/Reaver.
If you want to see it done right, watch Bisu vs Jaedong on Andromeda.


1) Hmm, if I remember right from the old days, D. Web was the one that nullified defense structures from shooting. Does it have any other function, I mean what you describe sounds like dark swarm. Does that work that way?
2. Cool, so it's a reactionary action.

dweb is kind of a reverse dark swarm, things under it can't attack.

No one really uses it anymore though :/
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 22 2011 12:20 GMT
#942
On July 22 2011 21:19 Bleak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:15 Lightwip wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:12 Bleak wrote:
Normally I watch SC2 and busts like this happen all the time and I've heard BW was different.

So, my question is:

1) It feels to me like Protoss player did have too many Corsairs, not enough units. Did Z player capitalize on this? Is that why the bust worked?
2) Do attacks like this frequently happen, or are they rare?

1. Reavers are usually able to defend against this, but they need enough support. Jangbi should've gotten D web to stop the hydras.
2. They always attack like this when the toss goes Sair/Reaver.
If you want to see it done right, watch Bisu vs Jaedong on Andromeda.


1) Hmm, if I remember right from the old days, D. Web was the one that nullified defense structures from shooting. Does it have any other function, I mean what you describe sounds like dark swarm. Does that work that way?
2. Cool, so it's a reactionary action.

It stops anything under the web from attacking, so units under it can't attack either, but they can move around (they can also be attacked so it's not like dark swarm)
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
July 22 2011 12:21 GMT
#943
On July 22 2011 21:20 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:19 Bleak wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:15 Lightwip wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:12 Bleak wrote:
Normally I watch SC2 and busts like this happen all the time and I've heard BW was different.

So, my question is:

1) It feels to me like Protoss player did have too many Corsairs, not enough units. Did Z player capitalize on this? Is that why the bust worked?
2) Do attacks like this frequently happen, or are they rare?

1. Reavers are usually able to defend against this, but they need enough support. Jangbi should've gotten D web to stop the hydras.
2. They always attack like this when the toss goes Sair/Reaver.
If you want to see it done right, watch Bisu vs Jaedong on Andromeda.


1) Hmm, if I remember right from the old days, D. Web was the one that nullified defense structures from shooting. Does it have any other function, I mean what you describe sounds like dark swarm. Does that work that way?
2. Cool, so it's a reactionary action.

dweb is kind of a reverse dark swarm, things under it can't attack.

No one really uses it anymore though :/


Except Shuttle. Against Terran.
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
July 22 2011 12:21 GMT
#944
On July 22 2011 21:20 Sinedd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:18 Hyde wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:16 Crunchums wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:15 Lightwip wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:12 Bleak wrote:
Normally I watch SC2 and busts like this happen all the time and I've heard BW was different.

So, my question is:

1) It feels to me like Protoss player did have too many Corsairs, not enough units. Did Z player capitalize on this? Is that why the bust worked?
2) Do attacks like this frequently happen, or are they rare?

1. Reavers are usually able to defend against this, but they need enough support. Jangbi should've gotten D web to stop the hydras.
2. They always attack like this when the toss goes Sair/Reaver.
If you want to see it done right, watch Bisu vs Jaedong on Andromeda.

what

Lol

ahhhh Modesty and Hyvaa shaking hands, they're team mates after all

some idea at least...

but I think maelstrom would be better

seriously its such an awesome spell, why the fuck Protoss players aint using their whole arsenal while T and Z players are...

just... ugh.


requires lot of game sense + apm..... to pull it off i guess . I think jangbi is not accustomed to dark archon style of play hmm....
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
July 22 2011 12:21 GMT
#945
On July 22 2011 21:19 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Poor STX. Knocked out of playoffs, entire team for trade, and now teamkill. Mustaju, please don't kill yourself.


he better call his ISP and have them denie his access to TL, goddamn, it's really harsh for STX these days


On July 22 2011 21:20 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:19 Bleak wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:15 Lightwip wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:12 Bleak wrote:
Normally I watch SC2 and busts like this happen all the time and I've heard BW was different.

So, my question is:

1) It feels to me like Protoss player did have too many Corsairs, not enough units. Did Z player capitalize on this? Is that why the bust worked?
2) Do attacks like this frequently happen, or are they rare?

1. Reavers are usually able to defend against this, but they need enough support. Jangbi should've gotten D web to stop the hydras.
2. They always attack like this when the toss goes Sair/Reaver.
If you want to see it done right, watch Bisu vs Jaedong on Andromeda.


1) Hmm, if I remember right from the old days, D. Web was the one that nullified defense structures from shooting. Does it have any other function, I mean what you describe sounds like dark swarm. Does that work that way?
2. Cool, so it's a reactionary action.

dweb is kind of a reverse dark swarm, things under it can't attack.

No one really uses it anymore though :/


well shuttle did
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 12:22:12
July 22 2011 12:21 GMT
#946
On July 22 2011 21:21 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:20 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:19 Bleak wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:15 Lightwip wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:12 Bleak wrote:
Normally I watch SC2 and busts like this happen all the time and I've heard BW was different.

So, my question is:

1) It feels to me like Protoss player did have too many Corsairs, not enough units. Did Z player capitalize on this? Is that why the bust worked?
2) Do attacks like this frequently happen, or are they rare?

1. Reavers are usually able to defend against this, but they need enough support. Jangbi should've gotten D web to stop the hydras.
2. They always attack like this when the toss goes Sair/Reaver.
If you want to see it done right, watch Bisu vs Jaedong on Andromeda.


1) Hmm, if I remember right from the old days, D. Web was the one that nullified defense structures from shooting. Does it have any other function, I mean what you describe sounds like dark swarm. Does that work that way?
2. Cool, so it's a reactionary action.

dweb is kind of a reverse dark swarm, things under it can't attack.

No one really uses it anymore though :/


Except Shuttle. Against Terran.

it might have worked if he hadn't executed it terribly

edit:
i remember watching and being like, oh man, that army can beat flash's army! and then he controlled his army really badly and got rolled
brood war for life, brood war forever
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
July 22 2011 12:21 GMT
#947
On July 22 2011 21:21 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:20 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:19 Bleak wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:15 Lightwip wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:12 Bleak wrote:
Normally I watch SC2 and busts like this happen all the time and I've heard BW was different.

So, my question is:

1) It feels to me like Protoss player did have too many Corsairs, not enough units. Did Z player capitalize on this? Is that why the bust worked?
2) Do attacks like this frequently happen, or are they rare?

1. Reavers are usually able to defend against this, but they need enough support. Jangbi should've gotten D web to stop the hydras.
2. They always attack like this when the toss goes Sair/Reaver.
If you want to see it done right, watch Bisu vs Jaedong on Andromeda.


1) Hmm, if I remember right from the old days, D. Web was the one that nullified defense structures from shooting. Does it have any other function, I mean what you describe sounds like dark swarm. Does that work that way?
2. Cool, so it's a reactionary action.

dweb is kind of a reverse dark swarm, things under it can't attack.

No one really uses it anymore though :/


Except Shuttle. Against Terran.

Ahhh, don't remind me of that game...
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
July 22 2011 12:21 GMT
#948
On July 22 2011 21:21 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:20 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:19 Bleak wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:15 Lightwip wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:12 Bleak wrote:
Normally I watch SC2 and busts like this happen all the time and I've heard BW was different.

So, my question is:

1) It feels to me like Protoss player did have too many Corsairs, not enough units. Did Z player capitalize on this? Is that why the bust worked?
2) Do attacks like this frequently happen, or are they rare?

1. Reavers are usually able to defend against this, but they need enough support. Jangbi should've gotten D web to stop the hydras.
2. They always attack like this when the toss goes Sair/Reaver.
If you want to see it done right, watch Bisu vs Jaedong on Andromeda.


1) Hmm, if I remember right from the old days, D. Web was the one that nullified defense structures from shooting. Does it have any other function, I mean what you describe sounds like dark swarm. Does that work that way?
2. Cool, so it's a reactionary action.

dweb is kind of a reverse dark swarm, things under it can't attack.

No one really uses it anymore though :/


Except Shuttle. Against Terran.

Which game was this? I've missed a lot of games recently.
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Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
July 22 2011 12:22 GMT
#949
On July 22 2011 21:21 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:21 sixfour wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:20 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:19 Bleak wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:15 Lightwip wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:12 Bleak wrote:
Normally I watch SC2 and busts like this happen all the time and I've heard BW was different.

So, my question is:

1) It feels to me like Protoss player did have too many Corsairs, not enough units. Did Z player capitalize on this? Is that why the bust worked?
2) Do attacks like this frequently happen, or are they rare?

1. Reavers are usually able to defend against this, but they need enough support. Jangbi should've gotten D web to stop the hydras.
2. They always attack like this when the toss goes Sair/Reaver.
If you want to see it done right, watch Bisu vs Jaedong on Andromeda.


1) Hmm, if I remember right from the old days, D. Web was the one that nullified defense structures from shooting. Does it have any other function, I mean what you describe sounds like dark swarm. Does that work that way?
2. Cool, so it's a reactionary action.

dweb is kind of a reverse dark swarm, things under it can't attack.

No one really uses it anymore though :/


Except Shuttle. Against Terran.

Which game was this? I've missed a lot of games recently.


+ Show Spoiler +
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 12:23:10
July 22 2011 12:22 GMT
#950
On July 22 2011 21:21 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:21 sixfour wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:20 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:19 Bleak wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:15 Lightwip wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:12 Bleak wrote:
Normally I watch SC2 and busts like this happen all the time and I've heard BW was different.

So, my question is:

1) It feels to me like Protoss player did have too many Corsairs, not enough units. Did Z player capitalize on this? Is that why the bust worked?
2) Do attacks like this frequently happen, or are they rare?

1. Reavers are usually able to defend against this, but they need enough support. Jangbi should've gotten D web to stop the hydras.
2. They always attack like this when the toss goes Sair/Reaver.
If you want to see it done right, watch Bisu vs Jaedong on Andromeda.


1) Hmm, if I remember right from the old days, D. Web was the one that nullified defense structures from shooting. Does it have any other function, I mean what you describe sounds like dark swarm. Does that work that way?
2. Cool, so it's a reactionary action.

dweb is kind of a reverse dark swarm, things under it can't attack.

No one really uses it anymore though :/


Except Shuttle. Against Terran.

Which game was this? I've missed a lot of games recently.


check the vods play off stx v kt rolster ^^
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
July 22 2011 12:22 GMT
#951
On July 22 2011 21:20 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:19 Bleak wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:15 Lightwip wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:12 Bleak wrote:
Normally I watch SC2 and busts like this happen all the time and I've heard BW was different.

So, my question is:

1) It feels to me like Protoss player did have too many Corsairs, not enough units. Did Z player capitalize on this? Is that why the bust worked?
2) Do attacks like this frequently happen, or are they rare?

1. Reavers are usually able to defend against this, but they need enough support. Jangbi should've gotten D web to stop the hydras.
2. They always attack like this when the toss goes Sair/Reaver.
If you want to see it done right, watch Bisu vs Jaedong on Andromeda.


1) Hmm, if I remember right from the old days, D. Web was the one that nullified defense structures from shooting. Does it have any other function, I mean what you describe sounds like dark swarm. Does that work that way?
2. Cool, so it's a reactionary action.

It stops anything under the web from attacking, so units under it can't attack either, but they can move around (they can also be attacked so it's not like dark swarm)


That sounds cool.

Also, someone suggested me the Jaedong v. Bisu game and I'm checking it out now, thx for it!
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Special Tactics
Profile Joined July 2011
Ukraine233 Posts
July 22 2011 12:22 GMT
#952
Is this game actually worth watching?
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
July 22 2011 12:22 GMT
#953
On July 22 2011 21:21 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:21 sixfour wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:20 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:19 Bleak wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:15 Lightwip wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:12 Bleak wrote:
Normally I watch SC2 and busts like this happen all the time and I've heard BW was different.

So, my question is:

1) It feels to me like Protoss player did have too many Corsairs, not enough units. Did Z player capitalize on this? Is that why the bust worked?
2) Do attacks like this frequently happen, or are they rare?

1. Reavers are usually able to defend against this, but they need enough support. Jangbi should've gotten D web to stop the hydras.
2. They always attack like this when the toss goes Sair/Reaver.
If you want to see it done right, watch Bisu vs Jaedong on Andromeda.


1) Hmm, if I remember right from the old days, D. Web was the one that nullified defense structures from shooting. Does it have any other function, I mean what you describe sounds like dark swarm. Does that work that way?
2. Cool, so it's a reactionary action.

dweb is kind of a reverse dark swarm, things under it can't attack.

No one really uses it anymore though :/


Except Shuttle. Against Terran.

Which game was this? I've missed a lot of games recently.


one of the games vs flash, i've not seen it as the stars series were on at the same time
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
July 22 2011 12:22 GMT
#954
On July 22 2011 21:21 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:21 sixfour wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:20 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:19 Bleak wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:15 Lightwip wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:12 Bleak wrote:
Normally I watch SC2 and busts like this happen all the time and I've heard BW was different.

So, my question is:

1) It feels to me like Protoss player did have too many Corsairs, not enough units. Did Z player capitalize on this? Is that why the bust worked?
2) Do attacks like this frequently happen, or are they rare?

1. Reavers are usually able to defend against this, but they need enough support. Jangbi should've gotten D web to stop the hydras.
2. They always attack like this when the toss goes Sair/Reaver.
If you want to see it done right, watch Bisu vs Jaedong on Andromeda.


1) Hmm, if I remember right from the old days, D. Web was the one that nullified defense structures from shooting. Does it have any other function, I mean what you describe sounds like dark swarm. Does that work that way?
2. Cool, so it's a reactionary action.

dweb is kind of a reverse dark swarm, things under it can't attack.

No one really uses it anymore though :/


Except Shuttle. Against Terran.

Which game was this? I've missed a lot of games recently.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/75267_Flash_vs_Shuttle
brood war for life, brood war forever
Special Tactics
Profile Joined July 2011
Ukraine233 Posts
July 22 2011 12:23 GMT
#955
Oh, both same team. Why is this? This is unfair to them
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
July 22 2011 12:23 GMT
#956
On July 22 2011 21:22 Special Tactics wrote:
Is this game actually worth watching?

Probably won't take longer than 15mins so you might as well watch it.
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Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
July 22 2011 12:23 GMT
#957
On July 22 2011 21:21 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:20 Sinedd wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:18 Hyde wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:16 Crunchums wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:15 Lightwip wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:12 Bleak wrote:
Normally I watch SC2 and busts like this happen all the time and I've heard BW was different.

So, my question is:

1) It feels to me like Protoss player did have too many Corsairs, not enough units. Did Z player capitalize on this? Is that why the bust worked?
2) Do attacks like this frequently happen, or are they rare?

1. Reavers are usually able to defend against this, but they need enough support. Jangbi should've gotten D web to stop the hydras.
2. They always attack like this when the toss goes Sair/Reaver.
If you want to see it done right, watch Bisu vs Jaedong on Andromeda.

what

Lol

ahhhh Modesty and Hyvaa shaking hands, they're team mates after all

some idea at least...

but I think maelstrom would be better

seriously its such an awesome spell, why the fuck Protoss players aint using their whole arsenal while T and Z players are...

just... ugh.


requires lot of game sense + apm..... to pull it off i guess . I think jangbi is not accustomed to dark archon style of play hmm....

throwing maelstrom requiers alot of apm ? ok. and even if yes, then bw progamers do have the highest apm in esports right ? Protoss players really need to do something about those hydrabusts and ht snipes
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
July 22 2011 12:23 GMT
#958
i am rooting for whatever outcome helps jaedong advance from this group
brood war for life, brood war forever
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
July 22 2011 12:23 GMT
#959
Modesty 5
hyvaa 7
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50748 Posts
July 22 2011 12:24 GMT
#960
why does nanashin keep trolling with calm?
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