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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
July 22 2011 12:28 GMT
#981
modesty gets a couple of lings into main, got one drone, maybe 2
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
July 22 2011 12:28 GMT
#982
On July 22 2011 21:23 Sinedd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:21 Sawamura wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:20 Sinedd wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:18 Hyde wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:16 Crunchums wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:15 Lightwip wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:12 Bleak wrote:
Normally I watch SC2 and busts like this happen all the time and I've heard BW was different.

So, my question is:

1) It feels to me like Protoss player did have too many Corsairs, not enough units. Did Z player capitalize on this? Is that why the bust worked?
2) Do attacks like this frequently happen, or are they rare?

1. Reavers are usually able to defend against this, but they need enough support. Jangbi should've gotten D web to stop the hydras.
2. They always attack like this when the toss goes Sair/Reaver.
If you want to see it done right, watch Bisu vs Jaedong on Andromeda.

what

Lol

ahhhh Modesty and Hyvaa shaking hands, they're team mates after all

some idea at least...

but I think maelstrom would be better

seriously its such an awesome spell, why the fuck Protoss players aint using their whole arsenal while T and Z players are...

just... ugh.


requires lot of game sense + apm..... to pull it off i guess . I think jangbi is not accustomed to dark archon style of play hmm....

throwing maelstrom requiers alot of apm ? ok. and even if yes, then bw progamers do have the highest apm in esports right ? Protoss players really need to do something about those hydrabusts and ht snipes


HT snipes are less of a problem nowadays, though Maelstrom still owns Muta builds when properly executed, probably need to go a zeal heavy composition to force mutas and find the appropriate timing to morph them

Don't think it'll help much against hydra busts though. You can maybe get 1 off but you're better off getting fast storm
beachbeachy
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States509 Posts
July 22 2011 12:28 GMT
#983
Modesty really is a good zvzer
Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of men. - Goethe
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
July 22 2011 12:28 GMT
#984
I hope the 2 of them play so bad that we might see a hive tech play.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Special Tactics
Profile Joined July 2011
Ukraine233 Posts
July 22 2011 12:28 GMT
#985
I love BW zerglings better. SC2 zerglings look like ants with wings sometimes.
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
July 22 2011 12:28 GMT
#986
On July 22 2011 21:27 Sinedd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:25 Sawamura wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:23 Sinedd wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:21 Sawamura wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:20 Sinedd wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:18 Hyde wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:16 Crunchums wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:15 Lightwip wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:12 Bleak wrote:
Normally I watch SC2 and busts like this happen all the time and I've heard BW was different.

So, my question is:

1) It feels to me like Protoss player did have too many Corsairs, not enough units. Did Z player capitalize on this? Is that why the bust worked?
2) Do attacks like this frequently happen, or are they rare?

1. Reavers are usually able to defend against this, but they need enough support. Jangbi should've gotten D web to stop the hydras.
2. They always attack like this when the toss goes Sair/Reaver.
If you want to see it done right, watch Bisu vs Jaedong on Andromeda.

what

Lol

ahhhh Modesty and Hyvaa shaking hands, they're team mates after all

some idea at least...

but I think maelstrom would be better

seriously its such an awesome spell, why the fuck Protoss players aint using their whole arsenal while T and Z players are...

just... ugh.


requires lot of game sense + apm..... to pull it off i guess . I think jangbi is not accustomed to dark archon style of play hmm....

throwing maelstrom requiers alot of apm ? ok. and even if yes, then bw progamers do have the highest apm in esports right ? Protoss players really need to do something about those hydrabusts and ht snipes


Protoss need another bisu evolution or whichever savior who will come with that sort of playstyle to counter the current hydra bust and templar sniping after all bw stood pride of it's game balance moto . So yeah probably in the future some one will start abusing every protoss arsenal out there to inch out the imbalance of the swarm .


I hope to god it happens and fast

Protoss players are really boring and dry lately... no innovations whatsoever

we need the revolution !!!


but bisu is still doing fine, the other's just can't seem to emulate that style

i don't think we need a "PvZ for dummies" build that everyone can use

even though something that stops Hydrabust reliably would be nice i guess
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mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
July 22 2011 12:29 GMT
#987
On July 22 2011 21:27 Shurayuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:26 mnesthes wrote:
I hope these two have talked about this match before hand and both will mirror 12 hatch into mirror hive rush into All-You-Can-Eat ZvZ fest


10min no rush kk?

Hive ZvZ is delicious!
Imagine Modesty spamming nrb4hive in pregame chat and Hyvaa: k
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
July 22 2011 12:29 GMT
#988
On July 22 2011 21:27 kuroshiroi wrote:
I think hyvaa has a tiny advantage here, since it's easier to defend air in that relative position?

imo these positions favor orange
brood war for life, brood war forever
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 22 2011 12:29 GMT
#989
Hyvva has almost a full control group of lings made
Modesty sneaking in a pair of lings into the main, he tries to kill a drone, loses a ling in the process, second lings scores a drone though

Modesty also ramping up his ling production
Hyvaa getting his spire up.
Modesty taking his 2nd gas, he's also getting a spire

Ling armies meet in the center of the map! a lot of lings dead, both players with equal numbers

Hyvaa getting a pair of lings into Mod's nat, drones are forced to run, 2 drones down!
Mod getting his mutas out
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
July 22 2011 12:29 GMT
#990
Teamkill is always weird. How many times you see lings killing each other in the middle of the map?
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
July 22 2011 12:29 GMT
#991
hyvaa zerglings pretty effective
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
July 22 2011 12:30 GMT
#992
On July 22 2011 21:29 HighTemper wrote:
Teamkill is always weird. How many times you see lings killing each other in the middle of the map?


Hoejja v ggaemo ^^
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Special Tactics
Profile Joined July 2011
Ukraine233 Posts
July 22 2011 12:31 GMT
#993
ZvZ in BW is so broken lol. Expo is only taken because of gas and 1 or 2 drones for minerals maybe.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
July 22 2011 12:31 GMT
#994
lol hyvaa
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
July 22 2011 12:31 GMT
#995
hyvaa gg's
brood war for life, brood war forever
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
July 22 2011 12:31 GMT
#996
0/4 LB today
...
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
July 22 2011 12:31 GMT
#997
ah poor hyvaa.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 22 2011 12:31 GMT
#998
Modesty sneaking a ling into Hyvaa's main but is caught by overlords
both players building up their air forces now
no scourge, both players just going for pure muta atm, and as I type that out I see a pair of scourge pop out

Mod kills off an overlord, Hyvaa microing hard and avoiding scourge! Air battle ensues and it's a total mess
Modesty killing a drone with a ling at the nat

Hyvaa with a small muta group, Mod attacking the main! Hyvaa losing a lot of mutas

Hyvaa types out
Well done Modesty
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
July 22 2011 12:31 GMT
#999
modesty's zvz so good. fk yeah
Special Tactics
Profile Joined July 2011
Ukraine233 Posts
July 22 2011 12:31 GMT
#1000
At least its fast.
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