EPT[SPL] Hwaseung Oz vs Samsung Khan - Page 18
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SkimGuy
Canada709 Posts
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Peeano
Netherlands5693 Posts
I kinda wish Jangbi had that level of PvZ in the 2009 MSL. Then ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Zicon_small.png) would just have rolled over and died :D | ||
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Ultimate Weapon
United States132 Posts
On July 03 2011 13:46 kuroshiroi wrote: STX needs to lose 4-3, preferably. Then Fox needs to lose their last match against Stars. Thats complicated for Oz. Please clarify, why 4-3? not 4-2 or 4-1 or 4-0? | ||
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Taku
Canada2036 Posts
On July 03 2011 14:10 Elefanto wrote: How do you win lategame PvZ on that map? It was Bisu vs Zero all over again. Jaedong played marvelous, no doubt. Ramp blocks, Nexus snipes, playgu swarm etc. Still, how to deny zerg expansions? It seems so easy to turtle up and get 4base hive-tech D: Dunno, Jangbi was doing fine in that one push where his reavers survived for longer than 10 seconds to snipe lurkers with | ||
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Trizz
Netherlands1323 Posts
On July 03 2011 14:11 beachbeachy wrote: Let's not jump to conclusions until we see flash play. Sick game by jaedong though. I can't help but to think Jaedong is the better man. He's on a 9 win streak with 2 wins over FlaSh and he looked absolutely beastly. | ||
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okum
France5779 Posts
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
On July 03 2011 14:09 Dante08 wrote: Jaedong why you no make cows? Awesome game Jaedong was starving economically and needed to defend and control space with cost-effecient units. That's where lurker/defiler comes in, blocking out Jangbi's attacks while he gets his expos up. | ||
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
On July 03 2011 14:12 Ultimate Weapon wrote: Thats complicated for Oz. Please clarify, why 4-3? not 4-2 or 4-1 or 4-0? Oz can only beat WMF on a tie-break, which is based on individual game wins. So 4-3 win by WMF only gives them one additional individual game win. | ||
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TheOnly92
Malaysia804 Posts
On July 03 2011 14:13 okum wrote: Jangbi made the same mistake every protoss except Bisu makes in that situation. He surrendered the sixth to attack into a lurker field, losing most of his army for absolutely nothing. Should've held the center and gotten more reavers and templars instead. JD was happily expanding, if he doesn't do anything soon, he'll get rolled over anyways. | ||
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beachbeachy
United States509 Posts
On July 03 2011 14:12 Trizz wrote: I can't help but to think Jaedong is the better man. He's on a 9 win streak with 2 wins over FlaSh and he looked absolutely beastly. True, but Flash on top of his game (msl finals WITH wrist injury) is definitely more impressive than Jaedong on top of his game. If Flash isn't able to showcase that play in the upcoming weeks, then I'll definitely concede that Jaedong is playing the best sc in the world. | ||
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friendbg
Bulgaria576 Posts
On July 03 2011 14:12 Trizz wrote: I can't help but to think Jaedong is the better man. He's on a 9 win streak with 2 wins over FlaSh and he looked absolutely beastly. Jaedong has actually won their last four encounters to be precise  | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
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almond
115 Posts
Could use more storm drops. If Jangbi can add those he'll be scary. Bisu level pvz. Though easier said than done. | ||
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shurgen
350 Posts
On July 03 2011 14:15 beachbeachy wrote: True, but Flash on top of his game (msl finals WITH wrist injury) is definitely more impressive than Jaedong on top of his game. If Flash isn't able to showcase that play in the upcoming weeks, then I'll definitely concede that Jaedong is playing the best sc in the world. Lol let's try to keep Flash vs. Jaedong out of here... both of ya =p | ||
c3rberUs
Japan11309 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 03 2011 14:15 beachbeachy wrote: True, but Flash on top of his game (msl finals WITH wrist injury) is definitely more impressive than Jaedong on top of his game. If Flash isn't able to showcase that play in the upcoming weeks, then I'll definitely concede that Jaedong is playing the best sc in the world. Oh hell no. Jaedong on top if his game is unbeatable even by flash. When he plays a normal game and doesn't try to be super greedy his play is near unbeatable it seems :D | ||
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beachbeachy
United States509 Posts
On July 03 2011 14:16 shurgen wrote: Lol let's try to keep Flash vs. Jaedong out of here... both of ya =p Agreed. But at least we're not being bitter XD | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
My biggest problem with his game was that he was on 1 robo the whole time. When you're playing late-game PvZ, you need reavers to counter defilers. In that, Jangbi failed. On July 03 2011 14:12 SkimGuy wrote: JD wasn't behind, JangBi stayed on 2 bases for so long and his first push didn't do enough drone damage. It was equal at best for JangBi, but Jaedong was never behind Could people stop talking about bases? Bases doesn't always matter with zerg. If you only looked at the screen the 234234 times the observer pointed out the lack of drone saturation in Jaedong's base, you'd see that for a long time, his production capability was less than that of Jangbi's. Jaedong had "long term" advantage, in that he had more bases. Jangbi had "short term" advantage, in that he had more income for quite a while in the mid-game to mid-late-game. The game basically came down to Jangbi unable to use his short term advantage to turn it into a decisive advantage. So Jaedong's long term advantage eventually came through. Basically, Jangbi missed his timing, if you can call like 5-10 minute window timing. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On July 03 2011 14:15 friendbg wrote: Jaedong has actually won their last four encounters to be precise He meant that the 9-game winning streak includes two wins over Flash. | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
On July 03 2011 12:05 Elefanto wrote: Beautiful, gonna cheer for oz today Jaedong vs Jangbi plx lol your wish came true and more | ||
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