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Sayle
United Kingdom3685 Posts
On June 24 2011 00:18 ImbaTosS wrote: Cool idea supernovaman, would be really sweet to get some custom stuff in there for the later stages. looooooool I'm totally calling SNM this from now on. | ||
swanized
Canada2480 Posts
On June 23 2011 14:44 Game wrote: nOoNe and JoeKim ran everything with me last time. nOoNe is the ex head admin of iCCup before the recent chaotic massive staff changes and is extremely knowledgeable and reliable, as well as someone with my trust. JoeKim is an ex super admin of iCCup and long time standing member of the community who also maintains an impressive amount of knowledge, reliability, and ability to maintain order. As JoeKim isn't listed as a referee, his abundance isn't pertinent at this time. However, people with the ability to referee such a mass of people given the time they will have invested, applicable knowledge required, and necessity of a constant level-headed state are very few. Secondly, I don't understand how the referees being from LRM maintain any relativity to this starleague. Open to suggestion, however  oh I'm absolutely not doubting your ref's capacities but I was just wondering if they might not unconsciously favor their teammates when making a close call. of course if you also have Joekim who can ref the games with LRM members then it's fine  | ||
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LML
Germany1764 Posts
On June 24 2011 00:46 Iplaythings wrote: this, basically nvm, found it. Really hyped for watching some brood war, will anybody stream their laddering? Yes, I will start streaming again as soon as the ladder starts Was too busy last couple days and still have to do some work this upcoming week, aswell as helping out friends with practice. | ||
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Game
3191 Posts
I come to you today asking for your thoughts, your comprehension, and your protest. I have been informed of the deliberation from the iCCup staff on ISL2. Both their thoughts and mine are spoilered below. It seems that iCCup wants nothing to do with ISL2, as it is not run by them. Given this, I am at a loss for words and ask for your opinion. + Show Spoiler [PM from iCCup.Paladin] + from: DE iCCup.Paladin today @ 19:21 CET Kaal International StarLeague LRM)Gayme2, after having read your thread on TL I want to make some things very clear, so there will be no misunderstandings between us: 1. No phase of 'Kaal International StarLeague' will be held on iCCup; please correct your TL-OP accordingly. 2. No iCCup Admin will lend any sort of support to 'Kaal International StarLeague'; please correct your TL-OP accordingly. 3. I will delete/ban the Team 'Kaal International StarLeague' (registration number 34537). 4. I will lock/ban every account bearing the 'ISL2'-tag; so far those are 'ISL2-Sayle', '[ISL2]-Glory' and 'ISL2_nOoNe'. 5. Should any attempt to sneak ISL2-matches onto iCCup be made, or should any violation of the iCCup Rules by ISL2 officials be made known to me, I will IP ban you as well as lock/ban every single account you have registered or will register on iCCup. Please take note that none of your events or parts thereof will ever be hosted on iCCup in the future. Furthermore, no Admin assistance of any sort will be granted to you. For: iCCup Administration iCCup.Paladin (HA/SCBW Division) + Show Spoiler [iCCup.Paladin in the team chatbox] + DEiCCup.Paladin today @ 19:43 CET Team banned by iCCup Administration on June 23, 2011. All accounts with an ISL2-tag have been locked on server, banned from website as unauthorized. Registration of accounts tagged ISL2 is prohibited. + Show Spoiler [PM to iCCup.Paladin] + iCCup.Paladin, iCCup is a free server in which the only high point is the ladder. You cannot mass ban people for using your ladder system out of bias. Furthermore, your iCCup staff volunteered to work with this event because they know it is the right thing to do. Just as well, if you wish to kill iCCup in one final sriking blow by just outright banning people using an ISL2 tag, I am no one to stop you. For: Free advertising to your server and the good of the BW community. LRM)Game (Head/SCBW Division) | ||
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LuMiX
China5757 Posts
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LML
Germany1764 Posts
@Game's post. It's kindergarten. Because of differences with other people they want to deny their server to events you host, basicly not wanting anything good for the StarCraft:BroodWar community, instead shutting good things for the community and the players down out of their own grudge and personal appeal. However, they are free to do so, as it is their own right to deny anything going on on their server, let it make sense or not. Yet, nobody has to use iCCup. There are countries who use their own servers (I believe Cuba uses some server due to latency issues?) and either have their own launchers or simply using Chaos on them might work. If another server also has the ability of having a ladder system nothing speaks against it, may it be different or not, that doesn't matter, afterall the best will come out on top. So you are in no way bond to people who do not want to help out the community, no matter if they claim differently, due to having personal problems with individuals. Edit: The polish ladder PSL over at http://prostarleague.com/ is there, how maintained is that? | ||
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
what are the alternatives? | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On June 24 2011 02:53 Game wrote: Dear TeamLiquid community, I come to you today asking for your thoughts, your comprehension, and your protest. I have been informed of the deliberation from the iCCup staff on ISL2. Both their thoughts and mine are spoilered below. It seems that iCCup wants nothing to do with ISL2, as it is not run by them. Given this, I am at a loss for words and ask for your opinion. + Show Spoiler [PM from iCCup.Paladin] + from: DE iCCup.Paladin today @ 19:21 CET Kaal International StarLeague LRM)Gayme2, after having read your thread on TL I want to make some things very clear, so there will be no misunderstandings between us: 1. No phase of 'Kaal International StarLeague' will be held on iCCup; please correct your TL-OP accordingly. 2. No iCCup Admin will lend any sort of support to 'Kaal International StarLeague'; please correct your TL-OP accordingly. 3. I will delete/ban the Team 'Kaal International StarLeague' (registration number 34537). 4. I will lock/ban every account bearing the 'ISL2'-tag; so far those are 'ISL2-Sayle', '[ISL2]-Glory' and 'ISL2_nOoNe'. 5. Should any attempt to sneak ISL2-matches onto iCCup be made, or should any violation of the iCCup Rules by ISL2 officials be made known to me, I will IP ban you as well as lock/ban every single account you have registered or will register on iCCup. Please take note that none of your events or parts thereof will ever be hosted on iCCup in the future. Furthermore, no Admin assistance of any sort will be granted to you. For: iCCup Administration iCCup.Paladin (HA/SCBW Division) + Show Spoiler [iCCup.Paladin in the team chatbox] + DEiCCup.Paladin today @ 19:43 CET Team banned by iCCup Administration on June 23, 2011. All accounts with an ISL2-tag have been locked on server, banned from website as unauthorized. Registration of accounts tagged ISL2 is prohibited. + Show Spoiler [PM to iCCup.Paladin] + iCCup.Paladin, iCCup is a free server in which the only high point is the ladder. You cannot mass ban people for using your ladder system out of bias. Furthermore, your iCCup staff volunteered to work with this event because they know it is the right thing to do. Just as well, if you wish to kill iCCup in one final sriking blow by just outright banning people using an ISL2 tag, I am no one to stop you. For: Free advertising to your server and the good of the BW community. LRM)Game (Head/SCBW Division) Speechless. I have a suggestion that you might like. I'll skype you when I get home. Also, WTF!? this is not something I want to be thinking about at work while hungover and its busy as fuck. | ||
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On June 24 2011 02:53 Game wrote: Dear TeamLiquid community, I come to you today asking for your thoughts, your comprehension, and your protest. I have been informed of the deliberation from the iCCup staff on ISL2. Both their thoughts and mine are spoilered below. It seems that iCCup wants nothing to do with ISL2, as it is not run by them. Given this, I am at a loss for words and ask for your opinion. + Show Spoiler [PM from iCCup.Paladin] + from: DE iCCup.Paladin today @ 19:21 CET Kaal International StarLeague LRM)Gayme2, after having read your thread on TL I want to make some things very clear, so there will be no misunderstandings between us: 1. No phase of 'Kaal International StarLeague' will be held on iCCup; please correct your TL-OP accordingly. 2. No iCCup Admin will lend any sort of support to 'Kaal International StarLeague'; please correct your TL-OP accordingly. 3. I will delete/ban the Team 'Kaal International StarLeague' (registration number 34537). 4. I will lock/ban every account bearing the 'ISL2'-tag; so far those are 'ISL2-Sayle', '[ISL2]-Glory' and 'ISL2_nOoNe'. 5. Should any attempt to sneak ISL2-matches onto iCCup be made, or should any violation of the iCCup Rules by ISL2 officials be made known to me, I will IP ban you as well as lock/ban every single account you have registered or will register on iCCup. Please take note that none of your events or parts thereof will ever be hosted on iCCup in the future. Furthermore, no Admin assistance of any sort will be granted to you. For: iCCup Administration iCCup.Paladin (HA/SCBW Division) + Show Spoiler [iCCup.Paladin in the team chatbox] + DEiCCup.Paladin today @ 19:43 CET Team banned by iCCup Administration on June 23, 2011. All accounts with an ISL2-tag have been locked on server, banned from website as unauthorized. Registration of accounts tagged ISL2 is prohibited. + Show Spoiler [PM to iCCup.Paladin] + iCCup.Paladin, iCCup is a free server in which the only high point is the ladder. You cannot mass ban people for using your ladder system out of bias. Furthermore, your iCCup staff volunteered to work with this event because they know it is the right thing to do. Just as well, if you wish to kill iCCup in one final sriking blow by just outright banning people using an ISL2 tag, I am no one to stop you. For: Free advertising to your server and the good of the BW community. LRM)Game (Head/SCBW Division) Wow seriously? What the fuck? | ||
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Oh.Canada
Canada139 Posts
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On June 24 2011 03:14 Kiante wrote: Guess that seals it. i'll be playing on fish for the future. No way i'd support a server with my patronage if they're happy to cock block good stuff like a 1500$ foreign BW tournament over some petty arguments. grow the fuck up iccup. They wont let me host either. Now do I seem so extreme to have called for an iccup boycott? Edit: If you are a professionnal programmer or you know one, please contact me. I want an anti-hack. | ||
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
Blocking people from using your ladder service.... just so you can have complete control over every tournament that takes place on the server? That's ridiculous -_- edit: you should point out that TSL2 wasn't iCCup run yet they were allowed to run their ladder on iCCup | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6580 Posts
if not just make MYISL the most big tour of bw and made brackets etc, | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13032 Posts
No idea why iccup admins would act like that .... maybe they feel like they are being used because the later stages of the tour are played on US west so they are cockblocking the whole tour because of that. Anyway I was curious why do you need to play on US West with chaos instead of Iccup ?? | ||
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Game
3191 Posts
On June 24 2011 03:35 SkelA wrote: Haha thats funny and sad at the same time. No idea why iccup admins would act like that .... maybe they feel like they are being used because the later stages of the tour are played on US west so they are cockblocking the whole tour because of that. They were only scheduled on USWest because iCCup wants nothing to do with an event that isn't fully controlled by them. I figured the ladder stage was fine, as their entire server revolves around ladder. | ||
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Sayle
United Kingdom3685 Posts
Edit: Note that this is just one possible solution among many that are being considered | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On June 24 2011 03:33 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: really strange ;;; i think both parts must tak and fix this,at the end this is for bw ...., if not just make MYISL the most big tour of bw and made brackets etc, Clearly you've never seriously tried to negotiate with an admin, also, I iCCup not hosting it hurts them most. That would have been a huge burst in ladder play for a month which they are missing out on, the show will go on.. just modified probably. Well played iccup, never playing there again. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6580 Posts
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OneTrickPony
United States19 Posts
grow the fuck up iccup. +1 Paladin is actually Geckoxp's smurf. (both Germans, notice how Geckxp is not on admin page.) Iccup is fucking retarded. Power hungry hyenas. | ||
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