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JoeKim
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States608 Posts
August 11 2011 02:28 GMT
#441
On August 11 2011 10:49 uT)WhistleR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 10:49 JoeKim wrote:
On August 08 2011 02:49 uT)WhistleR wrote:
and the reason we cant transfer is....??


Game will post the official reason, but I don't see why you would even need an official reason. The "no transfer" Rule was there since the beginning of ISL 2, why complain now and not in the beginning after reading all of the rules? Game has his motives and whatever the reason may be, it's substantial enough to not change. If he changes it now, the rules become hypocritical. However, I doubt anyone suspected the ISL 2 Team to be disbanded.

Maybe since everything that was needed has been recorded, reconsideration is in store. Just don't get your hopes up.

ok. sry didnt read the rules

lol whistler, you're a character. you character you.
Boxer(OD)
Profile Joined August 2011
United States28 Posts
August 11 2011 17:35 GMT
#442
I am super pumped for Saturday! Everyone should watch Sayle's stream he is a great caster.
There is a negative relationship between a forum user's post count and intelligence; conversely, there is a positive relationship between a user's post count and self-selection.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
August 15 2011 07:32 GMT
#443
IMPORTANT PLEASE READ: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252121
Apparently you can hack with mini, so wLauncher must be manditory for all ISL2 games?
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
August 15 2011 07:38 GMT
#444
On August 15 2011 16:32 dRaW wrote:
IMPORTANT PLEASE READ: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252121
Apparently you can hack with mini, so wLauncher must be manditory for all ISL2 games?


This is written by a player, and not confirmed. But, just so you understand, anti-hack is a hack itself. You must create a hack to prevent hacks, and then any hacker that wants to will make a hack to override it. iCCup's anti-hack doesn't work, nor does Mini-Launcher, nor does wLauncher. I promise you on everything that we have had something made to catch hackers, and for some, prevent them.

However, I'm pretty sure you understand that no launcher that you are aware of actually prevents hacks, especially iCCup's, which has an entire team dedicated to maintaining it (but failing to do so).

Needless to say, nothing will change due to 3xile's thread. He told me about it with his Korean-friend who put him onto the entire idea that _everyone hacks_ roughly an hour after posting it. As you can see, I've posted in that thread.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
August 16 2011 02:06 GMT
#445
On August 15 2011 16:38 Game wrote:
However, I'm pretty sure you understand that no launcher that you are aware of actually prevents hacks, especially iCCup's, which has an entire team dedicated to maintaining it (but failing to do so).


Lousy information. Could you please explain how ESPECIALLY the ICC launcher isn't preventing hacks? So far it's the best anti hack for SCBW that is still working, it is preventing a shitload of hacks but ofc not all as thats impossible.
small dicks have great firepower
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
August 16 2011 02:29 GMT
#446
On August 16 2011 11:06 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 16:38 Game wrote:
However, I'm pretty sure you understand that no launcher that you are aware of actually prevents hacks, especially iCCup's, which has an entire team dedicated to maintaining it (but failing to do so).


Lousy information. Could you please explain how ESPECIALLY the ICC launcher isn't preventing hacks? So far it's the best anti hack for SCBW that is still working, it is preventing a shitload of hacks but ofc not all as thats impossible.


No, because this thread has nothing to do with iCCup's anti-hack. Before any rebuttal about my mention of it, mine was done as a response to a pertinent issue regarding this starleague.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
uT)WhistleR
Profile Joined May 2006
Sweden95 Posts
August 16 2011 06:24 GMT
#447
why is isl on fish anyway when u have group stage on icc
theres more lag on fish, the lan lat is worse then on icc
and this messes with my mouse sensitivity cause icc-launcher has different mouse speed

why fish?
Guty
Profile Joined July 2011
Honduras37 Posts
August 16 2011 06:49 GMT
#448
On August 16 2011 15:24 uT)WhistleR wrote:
why is isl on fish anyway when u have group stage on icc
theres more lag on fish, the lan lat is worse then on icc
and this messes with my mouse sensitivity cause icc-launcher has different mouse speed

why fish?

iCCup doesn't want any events hosted by LRM)Game to be played on their server.
"With great power,comes great pussy"
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 16 2011 06:51 GMT
#449
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Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
August 16 2011 06:54 GMT
#450
On August 16 2011 15:24 uT)WhistleR wrote:
why is isl on fish anyway when u have group stage on icc
theres more lag on fish, the lan lat is worse then on icc
and this messes with my mouse sensitivity cause icc-launcher has different mouse speed

why fish?


Sorry to hear about your easily fixed troubles... let's address this one at a time, shall we?

Q: why is isl on fish anyway when u have group stage on icc
A: Because foreign players are used to playing on iCCup, and the ISL2 staff could use their admin accounts (pun intended) to work on counter-abuse for the ladder. Fish's ladder is not as easily trackable, and could not be monitored up to our standards. + Show Spoiler +
Trust me when I say we had other ladders lined up for possible use, but only decided to do it on iCCup because we didn't want to have too much change. We know, winning money for playing a game for free is hard work.

S: theres more lag on fish, the lan lat is worse then on icc
R: There is not more lag on Fish unless you are from Northern Europe. Being that you are, it still won't effect your play in ISL2. Why, you ask? Because LAN lat is between you and the other player, not between you and the server.

S: and this messes with my mouse sensitivity cause icc-launcher has different mouse speed
R: So adjust your mouse speed accordingly?

+ Show Spoiler +
I know you and your entire team are huge fans of iCCup, sorry that we couldn't single you guys out and oblige you.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
JoeKim
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States608 Posts
August 16 2011 07:03 GMT
#451
i kinda feel like whistler should take the whole 2 seconds to figure out the answers to his questions before asking his questions..
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 07:21:18
August 16 2011 07:21 GMT
#452
On August 16 2011 15:24 uT)WhistleR wrote:
why is isl on fish anyway when u have group stage on icc
theres more lag on fish, the lan lat is worse then on icc
and this messes with my mouse sensitivity cause icc-launcher has different mouse speed

why fish?


I already posted before the starleague happened that fish has a reduced reaction time which isn't very significant but when you play a lot on iccup it's noticeable. The best recommendation is that of which game said or just practice on fish and not iccup, their ladder is more active anyway. Despite not being korean you just spam your rank and you will get more games per hour than on iccup.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 08:29:01
August 16 2011 08:24 GMT
#453
On August 16 2011 11:29 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 11:06 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
On August 15 2011 16:38 Game wrote:
However, I'm pretty sure you understand that no launcher that you are aware of actually prevents hacks, especially iCCup's, which has an entire team dedicated to maintaining it (but failing to do so).


Lousy information. Could you please explain how ESPECIALLY the ICC launcher isn't preventing hacks? So far it's the best anti hack for SCBW that is still working, it is preventing a shitload of hacks but ofc not all as thats impossible.


No, because this thread has nothing to do with iCCup's anti-hack. Before any rebuttal about my mention of it, mine was done as a response to a pertinent issue regarding this starleague.


You could've done that without spreading false propaganda to support your own personal war with ICC. But hey, it's just the ICC admins spreading lies, never you, right?

P.S. as you can see on my sig, I am not just a ICC fanboi blindly hating on you, I just hate the childish ICC bashing going on here lately. FUD is a shit strat and you should not use it.
small dicks have great firepower
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
August 16 2011 08:45 GMT
#454
On August 16 2011 17:24 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 11:29 Game wrote:
On August 16 2011 11:06 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
On August 15 2011 16:38 Game wrote:
However, I'm pretty sure you understand that no launcher that you are aware of actually prevents hacks, especially iCCup's, which has an entire team dedicated to maintaining it (but failing to do so).


Lousy information. Could you please explain how ESPECIALLY the ICC launcher isn't preventing hacks? So far it's the best anti hack for SCBW that is still working, it is preventing a shitload of hacks but ofc not all as thats impossible.


No, because this thread has nothing to do with iCCup's anti-hack. Before any rebuttal about my mention of it, mine was done as a response to a pertinent issue regarding this starleague.


You could've done that without spreading false propaganda to support your own personal war with ICC. But hey, it's just the ICC admins spreading lies, never you, right?

P.S. as you can see on my sig, I am not just a ICC fanboi blindly hating on you, I just hate the childish ICC bashing going on here lately. FUD is a shit strat and you should not use it.


Holy shit. Alright, last post on this because I'm sick of it after two comments. This thread has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with iCCup. The only reason I even mentioned iCCup's launcher being a failure is because I know the most about it from the framework to the staff, not because I dislike iCCup. Got it? Drop it.

+ Show Spoiler [FUD] +
Fear Uncertainty and Doubt? I have none of these qualities in regards to any organization.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1781 Posts
August 16 2011 17:23 GMT
#455
please whuaz, check this game played with iccup antihack on:
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/thread/759910-new-hack

That is how good it is (yes, both players had the AH on). Now think about the simple hacks that cannot be tracked anyways (like maphack), obviously they are just as easy to use.


@whistler, try checking your iccup launcher and check the chaos plugin of it, and then of your mini/chaos/wlauncher, whatever you use, and see if maybe one of them has mousespeed for the chaos changed? If not, maybe adjust it then for the other server and contact the iCCup team about the issue of it changing the mousespeed anyways.
LML
uT)WhistleR
Profile Joined May 2006
Sweden95 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 19:50:39
August 16 2011 19:44 GMT
#456
On August 16 2011 15:54 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 15:24 uT)WhistleR wrote:
why is isl on fish anyway when u have group stage on icc
theres more lag on fish, the lan lat is worse then on icc
and this messes with my mouse sensitivity cause icc-launcher has different mouse speed

why fish?


Sorry to hear about your easily fixed troubles... let's address this one at a time, shall we?

Q: why is isl on fish anyway when u have group stage on icc
A: Because foreign players are used to playing on iCCup, and the ISL2 staff could use their admin accounts (pun intended) to work on counter-abuse for the ladder. Fish's ladder is not as easily trackable, and could not be monitored up to our standards. + Show Spoiler +
Trust me when I say we had other ladders lined up for possible use, but only decided to do it on iCCup because we didn't want to have too much change. We know, winning money for playing a game for free is hard work.

S: theres more lag on fish, the lan lat is worse then on icc
R: There is not more lag on Fish unless you are from Northern Europe. Being that you are, it still won't effect your play in ISL2. Why, you ask? Because LAN lat is between you and the other player, not between you and the server.

S: and this messes with my mouse sensitivity cause icc-launcher has different mouse speed
R: So adjust your mouse speed accordingly?

+ Show Spoiler +
I know you and your entire team are huge fans of iCCup, sorry that we couldn't single you guys out and oblige you.


kk
why no transfer? i want play ladder on my team acc
btw did u tell sayle my email? he not answering my pms about the rD tour, he no read pms?
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
August 16 2011 20:01 GMT
#457
Game, why do you have to be so confrontational all the time?

also
On August 16 2011 15:54 Game wrote:
S: theres more lag on fish, the lan lat is worse then on icc
R: Being that you are, it still won't effect your play in ISL2.

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brood war for life, brood war forever
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 20:09:24
August 16 2011 20:01 GMT
#458
On August 17 2011 04:44 uT)WhistleR wrote:btw did u tell sayle my email? he not answering my pms about the rD tour, he no read pms?


I got it a while ago and did the only thing I could: forward it to S1rk who is the only person with access to the account. I have nothing to reply with except "yeah I got it, now please wait for the guy with the money to stop being afk ;;"

Edit: Also, you sent me that PM less than 24 hours ago. Good to know that not logging into TL for a day = "he no read pms".
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 20:09:01
August 16 2011 20:04 GMT
#459
On August 16 2011 15:24 uT)WhistleR wrote:
kk
why no transfer? i want play ladder on my team acc

What's stopping you? You can ladder on your team account whenever you feel like it.

On August 17 2011 05:01 Crunchums wrote:
Game, why do you have to be so confrontational all the time?

I run this starleague. I promised I wouldn't leave so much ambiguity to how it's run in one of the posts in this thread. I think it's very important that I address all issues no matter how smart or dumb they may be, don't you?
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
August 17 2011 03:18 GMT
#460
On August 17 2011 05:04 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 15:24 uT)WhistleR wrote:
kk
why no transfer? i want play ladder on my team acc

What's stopping you? You can ladder on your team account whenever you feel like it.

Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 05:01 Crunchums wrote:
Game, why do you have to be so confrontational all the time?

I run this starleague. I promised I wouldn't leave so much ambiguity to how it's run in one of the posts in this thread. I think it's very important that I address all issues no matter how smart or dumb they may be, don't you?


Ambiguity and Game are synonymous.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
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