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revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
June 12 2011 15:37 GMT
#941
Flash needs to have a TvP BO5 come up. It always seems like Flash has 2 MUs which are nigh unbeatable (S++ class) and 1 MU which is merely S class. It always rotates around depending on what the last BO5's he has played.
gostunv
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan1178 Posts
June 12 2011 15:49 GMT
#942
On June 13 2011 00:37 revy wrote:
Flash needs to have a TvP BO5 come up. It always seems like Flash has 2 MUs which are nigh unbeatable (S++ class) and 1 MU which is merely S class. It always rotates around depending on what the last BO5's he has played.


gonna have to tell them tosses to stop losing in the RO16.

Even most of the good up and coming rookies/newcomers are either terran or zerg.
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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
June 12 2011 16:52 GMT
#943
So sick play from Best!!!! Game of the weekend for sure. Where other Protosses hesitate, Best is confident with letting Flash turtle while he macros all over the place. Well played Best!
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
renzy
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada781 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 17:24:35
June 12 2011 17:14 GMT
#944
On June 12 2011 20:57 kamikami wrote:
In fact i wonder what happens if in a TvP, the Terran turtles in 3-4 base and NEVER ever pushes out, only care about defending (knowing that he is in a disadvantage for example), in that case the P cannot attack him too (even with 9 base this is futile because T can make 3 times an 200/200 army on 3 base, and 4 times on 4 bases).

So the Terran can force a rematch because no one can win ? This can be a valide strategy imo.


Lol, 9 base protoss is scary. Assuming each base has an average of 8 mineral patches, multiply that by 9, and then 1500 for each mineral patch. Thats around 10k of minerals alone....lool. xD Protoss can rape u with scouts from 10k of minerals. =.=

Edit: More than 10k of minerals per base. Times 9. lol
Bisu is the man
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
June 12 2011 18:15 GMT
#945
SKT best Korean Telecom
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ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
June 12 2011 18:27 GMT
#946
I agree with the sentiment that when Flash doesnt have time to prepare for a match (like today), he tends to default to 3-4 base 200/200 (2/1 or 3/3) push.

I dont think he was stubborn with his gameplan, more like that is the style that fairs best w/o preparation for him, imo.
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
June 12 2011 18:33 GMT
#947
bah, flash too used to TvZ.. well can't wait to watch.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
DirtYLOu
Profile Joined May 2010
575 Posts
June 12 2011 18:48 GMT
#948
BeSt is a beast !
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DirtYLOu
Profile Joined May 2010
575 Posts
June 12 2011 18:50 GMT
#949
On June 12 2011 21:06 disciple wrote:
For everyone who missed the action vs Bisu and think KTY had a field day, it was absolutely not the case. Bisu had to work really really hard for that one


Ya. I was surprised that actually Action gave Bisu so much trouble. Even Bisu was surprised lol
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 12 2011 18:50 GMT
#950
On June 13 2011 02:14 renzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 20:57 kamikami wrote:
In fact i wonder what happens if in a TvP, the Terran turtles in 3-4 base and NEVER ever pushes out, only care about defending (knowing that he is in a disadvantage for example), in that case the P cannot attack him too (even with 9 base this is futile because T can make 3 times an 200/200 army on 3 base, and 4 times on 4 bases).

So the Terran can force a rematch because no one can win ? This can be a valide strategy imo.


Lol, 9 base protoss is scary. Assuming each base has an average of 8 mineral patches, multiply that by 9, and then 1500 for each mineral patch. Thats around 10k of minerals alone....lool. xD Protoss can rape u with scouts from 10k of minerals. =.=

Edit: More than 10k of minerals per base. Times 9. lol

12k per base so 108k for 9 bases
☺
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
June 12 2011 18:55 GMT
#951
On June 13 2011 03:50 DirtYLOu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 21:06 disciple wrote:
For everyone who missed the action vs Bisu and think KTY had a field day, it was absolutely not the case. Bisu had to work really really hard for that one


Ya. I was surprised that actually Action gave Bisu so much trouble. Even Bisu was surprised lol


I got the feeling Bisu underestimated action, and though he could just run over him even with sair-reaver. I think he was either he was just messing around, or trying to show he can beat zergs without a mid game zealot timing attack.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
MeteorRise
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada611 Posts
June 12 2011 18:55 GMT
#952
OMG BESTTT. FUCK YEAH
Elegance, in all things.
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
June 12 2011 19:18 GMT
#953
On June 13 2011 03:55 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 03:50 DirtYLOu wrote:
On June 12 2011 21:06 disciple wrote:
For everyone who missed the action vs Bisu and think KTY had a field day, it was absolutely not the case. Bisu had to work really really hard for that one


Ya. I was surprised that actually Action gave Bisu so much trouble. Even Bisu was surprised lol


I got the feeling Bisu underestimated action, and though he could just run over him even with sair-reaver. I think he was either he was just messing around, or trying to show he can beat zergs without a mid game zealot timing attack.


Actually i personally think Bisu got comfortable w Sair Reaver on this map due to the (earlier) free 3rd, Action kinda just capitalised on this.

Action beat Bisu the last time they met (before today ), i dont think he ll be underestimating Action just yet.
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
June 12 2011 19:30 GMT
#954
i rewatched Bisu vs Action and it really wasn't that close.. sure Action managed to barely hold off Bisu's first midgame army attack, but Action's economy was pretty bad (pretty poor drone saturation throughout the game) whereas Bisu was at a very comfortable 3-4 base economy, which led to Bisu's army simply steamrolling Action in the end.
Writerptrk
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
June 12 2011 19:34 GMT
#955
Bisu certainly didn't look close to losing because of his booming economy, but it didn't seem like a particularly easy game to play either. His bases were safe but Action kept deflecting the harass and sniping sairs pretty well save for that time when Bisu reaver-stormed his main.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
June 12 2011 19:35 GMT
#956
Just rewatched as well.. Didnt feel at any point that Bisu was in real danger.. There was this time when lings met his HTs, but that was minor and only a few templars were traded for a fair number of lings anw.

Action on the other hand lost 5 drones to the 1st Reaver Harassed, a good amount of OVs all game (Bisu lost quite a number of Sairs too, but i feel that they more than pay for themselves with the constant scouting and OV-bursting), then there was that Reaver-Temp harass shortly before the big engagement as well..

Bisu still have the force that cleared out his main (from drop) + another production round.. Action already have trouble holding the force marching into his main, so i dont think he had a chance there, really.. Was exciting live though, nonetheless.
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
June 12 2011 20:05 GMT
#957
Pretty weird that from all the protosses, only best and much seems to be able to beat flash on a regular basis lol .
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
June 12 2011 20:07 GMT
#958
hmm, flash letting best go into macro mode... what a big no-no
Writer
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
June 12 2011 21:22 GMT
#959
Hmm, I haven't seen too many of best's games, but what exactly is entailed by his "macro mode" anyway? I do see massive numbers of units materialize out of nowhere, but what exactly is best doing differently from other Ps that enables him to be such a macro monster?
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 22:17:48
June 12 2011 22:14 GMT
#960
On June 13 2011 06:22 Z3kk wrote:
Hmm, I haven't seen too many of best's games, but what exactly is entailed by his "macro mode" anyway? I do see massive numbers of units materialize out of nowhere, but what exactly is best doing differently from other Ps that enables him to be such a macro monster?


Select gateways n press Z 1000 times faster?

I dont see how else one can macro (i dont play BW, and only a trivial amount of SC2 3v3, months ago.. so i might be wrong? :p)
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