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shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
June 11 2011 10:36 GMT
#3381
On June 11 2011 19:32 kuroshiroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 19:26 AppleTart wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:25 kuroshiroi wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:19 Telcontar wrote:
Why is this thread turning into SC2 vs BW? Anywho, congrats Flash. I sincerely hope you don't surpass NaDa

He's going to win the next OSL and MSL too, if these finals were any indication. Zero is supposed to be the second best Zerg but he got absolutely dominated in every way. The only way Flash isn't winning both next season is if JD gets his shit together, which is getting to be rather unlikely.

These are dark times for BW fans but good times for Flash fans, I guess.


Last season was a very dark time for Flash fans, getting knocked out of both leagues by no namers in like Ro 32 or something

Yes, because 3 months of no individual leagues is so hard? Give me a break, it was a minor bump in the road after he won everything. And he won every game in PL in the meantime. Flash fans have nothing to complain about when compared to any other player in the last 2 years.


Compared to Bisu fans, yes! >:D
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
June 11 2011 10:36 GMT
#3382
On June 11 2011 19:32 kuroshiroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 19:26 AppleTart wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:25 kuroshiroi wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:19 Telcontar wrote:
Why is this thread turning into SC2 vs BW? Anywho, congrats Flash. I sincerely hope you don't surpass NaDa

He's going to win the next OSL and MSL too, if these finals were any indication. Zero is supposed to be the second best Zerg but he got absolutely dominated in every way. The only way Flash isn't winning both next season is if JD gets his shit together, which is getting to be rather unlikely.

These are dark times for BW fans but good times for Flash fans, I guess.


Last season was a very dark time for Flash fans, getting knocked out of both leagues by no namers in like Ro 32 or something

Yes, because 3 months of no individual leagues is so hard? Give me a break, it was a minor bump in the road after he won everything. And he won every game in PL in the meantime. Flash fans have nothing to complain about when compared to any other player in the last 2 years.


It's our reward for sticking by Flash back when he was in his dark days in 2009 when we all knew he had so much potential but just couldn't win important games like Jaedong and Bisu could.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
June 11 2011 10:37 GMT
#3383
On June 11 2011 19:36 Holgerius wrote:
So happy that Flash is back at the top and proved that last season was indeed a total fluke.


considering how much hes learnt for his mistakes from the last season.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
June 11 2011 10:37 GMT
#3384
On June 11 2011 19:36 Holgerius wrote:
So happy that Flash is back at the top and proved that last season was indeed a total fluke.

I hope it's not. -_____-

I will be rooting for any protoss or terran he goes against.

In my universe, Protoss' meaning of life is to kick Terrans out of MSL so that Zerg could have a fair competition of p's & z's. -____-
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
June 11 2011 10:37 GMT
#3385
On June 11 2011 19:34 Torenhire wrote:
Flash just kind of took the series by the Bullhorns.

Zero made some pretty nasty mistakes with his mutas, and in the first game not reacting to all those rax in the first game until they were already at his 3rd was a HUGE mistake.

Game two he really did well holding off the inital aggression but Flash was playing contain + expand everywhere, and zero never was able to break the contain.

Game 3 was similar to game one but Flash still managed to contain Zero and take the entire map.

I'm not going to say "zero could have done this!!!" because Zero played pretty well, if you look beyond the "oh fuck I'm in the Finals with Flash" nervousness mistakes. Just...Flash is Flash and he's like, a whole different level of BW at the moment.


But how would he be able to break the contain?
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
June 11 2011 10:37 GMT
#3386
On June 11 2011 19:36 Hinanawi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 19:32 kuroshiroi wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:26 AppleTart wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:25 kuroshiroi wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:19 Telcontar wrote:
Why is this thread turning into SC2 vs BW? Anywho, congrats Flash. I sincerely hope you don't surpass NaDa

He's going to win the next OSL and MSL too, if these finals were any indication. Zero is supposed to be the second best Zerg but he got absolutely dominated in every way. The only way Flash isn't winning both next season is if JD gets his shit together, which is getting to be rather unlikely.

These are dark times for BW fans but good times for Flash fans, I guess.


Last season was a very dark time for Flash fans, getting knocked out of both leagues by no namers in like Ro 32 or something

Yes, because 3 months of no individual leagues is so hard? Give me a break, it was a minor bump in the road after he won everything. And he won every game in PL in the meantime. Flash fans have nothing to complain about when compared to any other player in the last 2 years.


It's our reward for sticking by Flash back when he was in his dark days in 2009 when we all knew he had so much potential but just couldn't win important games like Jaedong and Bisu could.


Oh how the tables have turned...

Less so for Bisu, but still. lol.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
June 11 2011 10:37 GMT
#3387
On June 11 2011 19:36 Hinanawi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 19:32 kuroshiroi wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:26 AppleTart wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:25 kuroshiroi wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:19 Telcontar wrote:
Why is this thread turning into SC2 vs BW? Anywho, congrats Flash. I sincerely hope you don't surpass NaDa

He's going to win the next OSL and MSL too, if these finals were any indication. Zero is supposed to be the second best Zerg but he got absolutely dominated in every way. The only way Flash isn't winning both next season is if JD gets his shit together, which is getting to be rather unlikely.

These are dark times for BW fans but good times for Flash fans, I guess.


Last season was a very dark time for Flash fans, getting knocked out of both leagues by no namers in like Ro 32 or something

Yes, because 3 months of no individual leagues is so hard? Give me a break, it was a minor bump in the road after he won everything. And he won every game in PL in the meantime. Flash fans have nothing to complain about when compared to any other player in the last 2 years.


It's our reward for sticking by Flash back when he was in his dark days in 2009 when we all knew he had so much potential but just couldn't win important games like Jaedong and Bisu could.

Huh. Must have been real tough being a fan of the third best player in the league.
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doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
June 11 2011 10:38 GMT
#3388
On June 11 2011 19:37 epoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 19:34 Torenhire wrote:
Flash just kind of took the series by the Bullhorns.

Zero made some pretty nasty mistakes with his mutas, and in the first game not reacting to all those rax in the first game until they were already at his 3rd was a HUGE mistake.

Game two he really did well holding off the inital aggression but Flash was playing contain + expand everywhere, and zero never was able to break the contain.

Game 3 was similar to game one but Flash still managed to contain Zero and take the entire map.

I'm not going to say "zero could have done this!!!" because Zero played pretty well, if you look beyond the "oh fuck I'm in the Finals with Flash" nervousness mistakes. Just...Flash is Flash and he's like, a whole different level of BW at the moment.


But how would he be able to break the contain?

If he had used Defilers before his Nydus broke, he wouldn't have lost ten Lurkers for nothing, and he might still be playing right now.
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
June 11 2011 10:39 GMT
#3389
On June 11 2011 19:37 epoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 19:34 Torenhire wrote:
Flash just kind of took the series by the Bullhorns.

Zero made some pretty nasty mistakes with his mutas, and in the first game not reacting to all those rax in the first game until they were already at his 3rd was a HUGE mistake.

Game two he really did well holding off the inital aggression but Flash was playing contain + expand everywhere, and zero never was able to break the contain.

Game 3 was similar to game one but Flash still managed to contain Zero and take the entire map.

I'm not going to say "zero could have done this!!!" because Zero played pretty well, if you look beyond the "oh fuck I'm in the Finals with Flash" nervousness mistakes. Just...Flash is Flash and he's like, a whole different level of BW at the moment.


But how would he be able to break the contain?


I meant to add in there, I'm not gonna say Zero could do XYZ, because honestly, I dunno. Tough spot to be in, so I don't completely agree with people saying that Zero played like shit - Zero played relatively well, however compared to Flash....

When you put an A-Class player against Flash, even if the A-Class played 99% perfect, it's going to look like he played awful because Flash is...Flash. When Flash doesn't make mistakes and takes control of a game, unless something drastic or tragic happens, you're kind of along for the ride.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
June 11 2011 10:39 GMT
#3390
Enough ramblings about sticking with your favorite players and crap

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AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
June 11 2011 10:39 GMT
#3391
On June 11 2011 19:37 doothegee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 19:36 Hinanawi wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:32 kuroshiroi wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:26 AppleTart wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:25 kuroshiroi wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:19 Telcontar wrote:
Why is this thread turning into SC2 vs BW? Anywho, congrats Flash. I sincerely hope you don't surpass NaDa

He's going to win the next OSL and MSL too, if these finals were any indication. Zero is supposed to be the second best Zerg but he got absolutely dominated in every way. The only way Flash isn't winning both next season is if JD gets his shit together, which is getting to be rather unlikely.

These are dark times for BW fans but good times for Flash fans, I guess.


Last season was a very dark time for Flash fans, getting knocked out of both leagues by no namers in like Ro 32 or something

Yes, because 3 months of no individual leagues is so hard? Give me a break, it was a minor bump in the road after he won everything. And he won every game in PL in the meantime. Flash fans have nothing to complain about when compared to any other player in the last 2 years.


It's our reward for sticking by Flash back when he was in his dark days in 2009 when we all knew he had so much potential but just couldn't win important games like Jaedong and Bisu could.

Huh. Must have been real tough being a fan of the third best player in the league.


Did you see Flash play during that time? He had more CCs than raxes or factories combined every game it made me want to pull my hair out.
always tired -_-
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 11 2011 10:39 GMT
#3392
On June 11 2011 19:37 doothegee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 19:36 Hinanawi wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:32 kuroshiroi wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:26 AppleTart wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:25 kuroshiroi wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:19 Telcontar wrote:
Why is this thread turning into SC2 vs BW? Anywho, congrats Flash. I sincerely hope you don't surpass NaDa

He's going to win the next OSL and MSL too, if these finals were any indication. Zero is supposed to be the second best Zerg but he got absolutely dominated in every way. The only way Flash isn't winning both next season is if JD gets his shit together, which is getting to be rather unlikely.

These are dark times for BW fans but good times for Flash fans, I guess.


Last season was a very dark time for Flash fans, getting knocked out of both leagues by no namers in like Ro 32 or something

Yes, because 3 months of no individual leagues is so hard? Give me a break, it was a minor bump in the road after he won everything. And he won every game in PL in the meantime. Flash fans have nothing to complain about when compared to any other player in the last 2 years.


It's our reward for sticking by Flash back when he was in his dark days in 2009 when we all knew he had so much potential but just couldn't win important games like Jaedong and Bisu could.

Huh. Must have been real tough being a fan of the third best player in the league.

Who never went far in the starleagues despite being so good... I'm telling you, that sucked really hard. The days before Flash's God-era started were really rough for Flash-fans since it looked like he would never unleash his full potential while JD was winning titles left and right.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 11 2011 10:39 GMT
#3393
Lol, an OZ player standing up for FlaSh and a KT fan hating on FlaSh. Just entertains me.
kiss kiss fall in love
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
June 11 2011 10:40 GMT
#3394
On June 11 2011 19:38 doothegee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 19:37 epoc wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:34 Torenhire wrote:
Flash just kind of took the series by the Bullhorns.

Zero made some pretty nasty mistakes with his mutas, and in the first game not reacting to all those rax in the first game until they were already at his 3rd was a HUGE mistake.

Game two he really did well holding off the inital aggression but Flash was playing contain + expand everywhere, and zero never was able to break the contain.

Game 3 was similar to game one but Flash still managed to contain Zero and take the entire map.

I'm not going to say "zero could have done this!!!" because Zero played pretty well, if you look beyond the "oh fuck I'm in the Finals with Flash" nervousness mistakes. Just...Flash is Flash and he's like, a whole different level of BW at the moment.


But how would he be able to break the contain?

If he had used Defilers before his Nydus broke, he wouldn't have lost ten Lurkers for nothing, and he might still be playing right now.


Wasn't it too late even by then? Even if the contain is broken. Flash is two bases ahead with complete map control. Zero will not be able to win set 3 even with the defiler.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51507 Posts
June 11 2011 10:40 GMT
#3395
so... anyone know if the girl with flash's parents was his sister or gf we never knew about? :3
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
June 11 2011 10:40 GMT
#3396
On June 11 2011 19:37 doothegee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 19:36 Hinanawi wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:32 kuroshiroi wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:26 AppleTart wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:25 kuroshiroi wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:19 Telcontar wrote:
Why is this thread turning into SC2 vs BW? Anywho, congrats Flash. I sincerely hope you don't surpass NaDa

He's going to win the next OSL and MSL too, if these finals were any indication. Zero is supposed to be the second best Zerg but he got absolutely dominated in every way. The only way Flash isn't winning both next season is if JD gets his shit together, which is getting to be rather unlikely.

These are dark times for BW fans but good times for Flash fans, I guess.


Last season was a very dark time for Flash fans, getting knocked out of both leagues by no namers in like Ro 32 or something

Yes, because 3 months of no individual leagues is so hard? Give me a break, it was a minor bump in the road after he won everything. And he won every game in PL in the meantime. Flash fans have nothing to complain about when compared to any other player in the last 2 years.


It's our reward for sticking by Flash back when he was in his dark days in 2009 when we all knew he had so much potential but just couldn't win important games like Jaedong and Bisu could.

Huh. Must have been real tough being a fan of the third best player in the league.


Well it was extremely frustrating because he wasn't getting anywhere near 3rd in any of the leagues....
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
June 11 2011 10:40 GMT
#3397
On June 11 2011 19:29 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 19:28 Hyde wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:27 moopie wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:26 Hyde wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:22 Torenhire wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:21 Hyde wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:19 Torenhire wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:18 doothegee wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:16 bearbuddy wrote:
Time to punch something then go to sleep. Damn. Congrats to Flash.

Woongjin fan group crying session inc

There's only like five of us anyway


Could be worse, there's only 2 STX fans.

Me and Mustaju. Lol.

Last count on Nov 2010 revealed at least 203 stx tags


lol 203!

Should update the count, I'm actually kinda curious about the TL tags and % of people wearing what.

Hey, it's better than 2 lol, only people I recall with the tags are you, must, cs, and thepol

Yeah I wish they would update it also. I imagine SKT recieves another boost in numbers haha :D

Badges alone don't mean lack of fans :3

Yeah I know, as I'm a fan of a few other teams too :D


I love STX.

STX is only pure love to be shared with the precious few who are deserving of it.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
June 11 2011 10:41 GMT
#3398
On June 11 2011 19:39 Torenhire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 19:37 epoc wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:34 Torenhire wrote:
Flash just kind of took the series by the Bullhorns.

Zero made some pretty nasty mistakes with his mutas, and in the first game not reacting to all those rax in the first game until they were already at his 3rd was a HUGE mistake.

Game two he really did well holding off the inital aggression but Flash was playing contain + expand everywhere, and zero never was able to break the contain.

Game 3 was similar to game one but Flash still managed to contain Zero and take the entire map.

I'm not going to say "zero could have done this!!!" because Zero played pretty well, if you look beyond the "oh fuck I'm in the Finals with Flash" nervousness mistakes. Just...Flash is Flash and he's like, a whole different level of BW at the moment.


But how would he be able to break the contain?


I meant to add in there, I'm not gonna say Zero could do XYZ, because honestly, I dunno. Tough spot to be in, so I don't completely agree with people saying that Zero played like shit - Zero played relatively well, however compared to Flash....

When you put an A-Class player against Flash, even if the A-Class played 99% perfect, it's going to look like he played awful because Flash is...Flash. When Flash doesn't make mistakes and takes control of a game, unless something drastic or tragic happens, you're kind of along for the ride.


Yeah thats kinda lame that he dictates the pace of the game and theres not much you can do.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
June 11 2011 10:41 GMT
#3399
lol, if you say STX three times Mustaju shows up.

:D
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
June 11 2011 10:41 GMT
#3400
On June 11 2011 19:40 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 19:38 doothegee wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:37 epoc wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:34 Torenhire wrote:
Flash just kind of took the series by the Bullhorns.

Zero made some pretty nasty mistakes with his mutas, and in the first game not reacting to all those rax in the first game until they were already at his 3rd was a HUGE mistake.

Game two he really did well holding off the inital aggression but Flash was playing contain + expand everywhere, and zero never was able to break the contain.

Game 3 was similar to game one but Flash still managed to contain Zero and take the entire map.

I'm not going to say "zero could have done this!!!" because Zero played pretty well, if you look beyond the "oh fuck I'm in the Finals with Flash" nervousness mistakes. Just...Flash is Flash and he's like, a whole different level of BW at the moment.


But how would he be able to break the contain?

If he had used Defilers before his Nydus broke, he wouldn't have lost ten Lurkers for nothing, and he might still be playing right now.


Wasn't it too late even by then? Even if the contain is broken. Flash is two bases ahead with complete map control. Zero will not be able to win set 3 even with the defiler.

I mean, obviously it's all in hindsight, and yeah, you're probably right in my opinion, but we did see Zero clean up some tanks near the center with his lings, and if he had managed to keep the Terran ball small and manageable, who knows what might have happened?
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