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Gnaix
Profile Joined February 2009
United States438 Posts
May 26 2011 12:41 GMT
#1341
fuck yeah, zero all the way!
one thing that sc2 has over bw is the fact that I can actually manage my hotkeys
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
May 26 2011 12:42 GMT
#1342
Also i dunno why people assume that Jaedong won't be able to regain his vZ or vP considering he's done it before, and only just recently got his vT to new heights. Certainly not time to write him off at all, that would be completely stupid. His vP problems are strategic instead of mechanical. And his vZ is probably half strategic problems (12hatch all the time? it's not 14cc!) and half muta micro. It's clearly overcome-able...
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 12:44:21
May 26 2011 12:44 GMT
#1343
Jaedong still has the spark of awesomeness, but you have to admit now that his ZvZ is now officially his worst match-up (ZvT being the strongest).
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
May 26 2011 12:48 GMT
#1344
Yeah definitely, it's not like the turn-around was instant though, there's been a sign of this for ages. I guess it was inevitable that Z's would catch up in this matchup. Between any of the top Zergs you can no longer predict a ZvZ series at all.

I don't think he can ever reach 80% ZvZ again simply because of the improvements of everyone else more than his own skill declining (even though his muta's are noticeably worse).
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
May 26 2011 12:53 GMT
#1345
BTW I also predict Flash taking some desperate measures due to his wrist conditions and his understanding of the fact that it might prevent him from winning. This might be even more dangerous than his standard play, as Flash is known for his mindgames.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
gustavohmp
Profile Joined May 2011
Brazil139 Posts
May 26 2011 12:57 GMT
#1346
The old gods are dying.
I expected Jaedong to lose. Hes been playing supbar and his wins vs T, IN MY OPINION, were Flash's fault rather than Jaedongs skill.
I will not be surprised AT ALL to see Flash failing against Hydra. Simple because Hydra and Zero are arguably the best Zergs out there right now. (Im not much into Zergs, sorry if Im mistaken)
If Flash cant win against Jaedong, he probably wont win against Hydra. Sure, he defeated Hydra in an ace match at PL, but so did Mind, who won the first set as well. So yeah, my body is (unfortunately) ready for another ZvZ finals.

Well, huge props to Zero. My favourite Zerg of all time, I always enjoyed the way he played. I dont like Zerg but he always made vZ matches fun to watch and I cant wait to see him performing in the finals.
JangBi will go the finals.
Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
May 26 2011 13:00 GMT
#1347
I hope JD will help Flash with TvZ practices and avenge himself.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
May 26 2011 13:02 GMT
#1348
jaedong's tvz is not subpar, it doesnt matter if you discount the flash games or not, he has played really well against other solid terrans. his zvz is struggling, and his zvp just needs a bit of work

you act like the only good vT games he played were vs flash
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
Velocity`
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom343 Posts
May 26 2011 13:05 GMT
#1349
Will Jaedong ever get his golden badge? It's taking far too long.
Xinliben
Profile Joined May 2009
United States931 Posts
May 26 2011 13:07 GMT
#1350
ZERO!!!!!

He is so lovable...
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery"
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
May 26 2011 13:13 GMT
#1351
The Golden Badge is for the OSL while this is the MSL though right? He's already got the badge for 3 OSLs. It's just the MSL (which he's lost 3 times now in the finals iirc). 9 finals but unfortunately only 5 wins. It's a shame nobody counts silvers for anything in Starcraft, only winning matters otherwise his record would seem a lot more impressive - especially for a Zerg.
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
May 26 2011 13:13 GMT
#1352
3x OSL = Golden Mouse

3x MSL = Golden Badge

"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
May 26 2011 13:21 GMT
#1353
Ah right yeah, i got them mixed up, sorry.

Btw for the guy talking about his vT not being that good, it's 22-5 this year. 2 of those losses to Flash and Light so pretty much excusable, and 1 of them being a insane cheese from Reality. So very good record all in all, and impressive games in there.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
May 26 2011 13:22 GMT
#1354
WOW ZERO!
time to take a starleague~~~
FTD
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 13:30:36
May 26 2011 13:28 GMT
#1355
On May 26 2011 22:00 Yodo wrote:
I hope JD will help Flash with TvZ practices and avenge himself.

oh shit I forgot to include that in my pre-FlashZero analysis

OMFG that's a REALLY bad factor for Zero. X_X

Stop trash-talking Jaedong's ZvT, it's probably the one match-up in which he is close to (or even beyond) perfect.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
May 26 2011 13:37 GMT
#1356
beyond perfect?
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 26 2011 13:39 GMT
#1357
Sigh, I just aced my English final, I was like
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Then I see 1-3.

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:<.
WriterXiao8~~
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2784 Posts
May 26 2011 13:40 GMT
#1358
One thing I'm sure about: MBCGame staff are now praying day and night for Flash to win.
KT Violet 1988 - 2012
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
May 26 2011 13:46 GMT
#1359
On May 26 2011 22:40 alypse wrote:
One thing I'm sure about: MBCGame staff are now praying day and night for Flash to win.

ROFL true

personally I'd like Flash to win. i REALLY want to see Flash vs Zero, we've seen a lot of JD-Flash but this would be a first bo5 ever between Zero and Flash.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 13:49:19
May 26 2011 13:48 GMT
#1360
the fuck? where is my leessangrok? pooooooooof!

as a flash fan, i genuinely am unhappy, because i respect jaedong as his greatest rival. jd makes flash and vice-versa. and if flash loses to hydra, i might ditch the finals and play the sims or something...

well at least ggnore can shut up now.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
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