• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:17
CEST 08:17
KST 15:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2025)10Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, GuMiho, Classic, Cure6Code S RO8 Preview: Classic, Reynor, Maru, GuMiho3Code S RO8 Preview: ByuN, Rogue, herO, Cure5[ASL19] Ro4 Preview: Storied Rivals7
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 12-18): Clem sweeps WardiTV May3Code S Season 2 (2025) - Qualifier Results132025 GSL Season 2 (Qualifiers)14Code S Season 1 - Classic & GuMiho advance to RO4 (2025)4[BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET7
StarCraft 2
General
¿Cómo llamo al Avianca Costa Rica telefono? ¿Cómo llamar al Volaris Costa Rica telefono? Replay cast herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2025) Code S Season 2 (2025) - Qualifier Results
Tourneys
DreamHack Dallas 2025 announced (May 23-25) RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series [GSL 2025] Code S Season 1 - RO4 and Grand Finals PIG STY FESTIVAL 6.0! (28 Apr - 4 May) Monday Nights Weeklies
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat Mutation # 471 Delivery Guaranteed
Brood War
General
Where is effort ? BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ StarCastTV Ultimate Battle Pros React To: Emotional Finalist in Best vs Light ASL 19 Tickets for foreigners
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues The Casual Games of the Week Thread [ASL19] Semifinal A [USBL Spring 2025] Groups cast
Strategy
[G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Creating a full chart of Zerg builds [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games? Grand Theft Auto VI Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
UK Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Books] Wool by Hugh Howey
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Narcissists In Gaming: Why T…
TrAiDoS
Poker
Nebuchad
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 29156 users

ABC [MSL] Ro4 Day 1 - Page 67

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 65 66 67 68 69 78 Next
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
May 26 2011 11:30 GMT
#1321
On May 26 2011 20:23 _Quasar_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 20:19 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
vZ: 154-54 (74.04%)

vs

vZ: 86-83 (50.89%)

Zero barely has more games than jaedong wins only lol :D as i thought how much of an advantage can make them play on equal terms i concluded that jaedong must have not played at least a month while zero practiced a shitload and here's what i find in a relation to this thought:

Recently ZerO had almost only practiced zvz because he had calm and hero for opponents beforehand and Jaedong had not even one single opponent zerg in the MSL.

also not to mention that jaedong's zvt is better. zero is very strong zvt too and will be probably rooting for him if flash is against him in the finals. but Zero is the type of player that can only win against flash/hydra in a single ace match in the proleague, and very hard in a bo5

i kind of feel robbed of a great final now T_T

on a related note, ZerO had almost no ZvT's lately. X_x Soulkey seems to have "collected" all the games vs Terran on SPL, while ZerO kept getting mostly P's and Z's.

and guess what will happen if Flash meets Zero) <trollface>

Zero you'd better win this!
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
May 26 2011 11:31 GMT
#1322
On May 26 2011 20:25 Legatus Lanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 20:19 Koka-kola wrote:
On May 26 2011 20:14 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On May 26 2011 20:02 Koka-kola wrote:
On May 26 2011 19:51 DarkMatter_ wrote:
On May 26 2011 19:49 champignones wrote:
jd is playing bad why people cant see it, he is like a good zerg now someone who can play outstanding games from time to time, someone who can get close to finals, but unfortunatelly someone who cant win a championship. in 2009 there was no doubt in my mind he was gonna win against anyone you name it he surelly would win, but now you cant say that anymore.

People need to stop confusing "not playing as well as he used to" with "he's played bad".

And is there any logic to differ this? From a fan point of view, he is playing worse than he used to or he is playing bad, does it somehow excuse the fact? I'm said because he lost, not because he played worse than he used to.

his zvt is better than it's ever been

a little painkiller heh?


do you disagree?

no, agree, I just wish he won today instead of leveling up his ZvT)
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
May 26 2011 11:36 GMT
#1323
oh wtf. so unexpected (for me at least)

sad :<:<:<:< JAEDONG WHAT HAPPEN >_<
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Mirl
Profile Joined May 2011
Turkey173 Posts
May 26 2011 11:45 GMT
#1324
angry jaedong fans&jaedong haters is soooooo funny :D i love reading this things
(-_(-_(^_(-_-)_-)_-)_-) Entusman Hwaiting~ (^_ = Horang2! Artosis #1 Nerd
pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
May 26 2011 11:47 GMT
#1325
Ahh I love zero. He's the ultimate wildcard. Never a big underdog vs anyone and never a huge favourite over anyone (except stork). Finally he's in a final. I'm a happy kakaru. Gotta watch the games when they are up.

Cheers to the cutest zerg in the world and I hope stomps Flash 3-0 in the final.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5588 Posts
May 26 2011 11:47 GMT
#1326
"Et c'était comme quatre coups brefs que je frappais sur la porte du malheur."
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
whiterabb1t
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium681 Posts
May 26 2011 11:48 GMT
#1327
On May 26 2011 19:20 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Suicide in Korea Thread huh?

Please someone report this.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
May 26 2011 11:52 GMT
#1328
Totally unexpected result! Too bad I couldn't catch this live, definitely going to check out the VODs. I would imagine that the commentators flipped out at the deciding game.
[TLMS] REBOOT
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
May 26 2011 11:53 GMT
#1329
From zero to hero!
Dear Sixsmith...
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
May 26 2011 11:55 GMT
#1330
This is terrible. Zero wont get a single win in the final, if Flash advances. Why Jaedong, whyyyyyy? This will be most one-sided final ever.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 26 2011 11:56 GMT
#1331
Why are people so negative about Zero's chances vs Flash? I think it would be a great final.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
May 26 2011 11:59 GMT
#1332
On May 26 2011 20:47 Elroi wrote:
"Et c'était comme quatre coups brefs que je frappais sur la porte du malheur."

And it was as short as four shots I knocked on the door of unhappiness
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
May 26 2011 12:01 GMT
#1333
On May 26 2011 20:56 Holgerius wrote:
Why are people so negative about Zero's chances vs Flash? I think it would be a great final.

"Why are people so negative about Zero's chances vs Flash? I think it would be a great final. "
(rubbing hands and laughing in anticipation somewhere deep inside)
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
May 26 2011 12:20 GMT
#1334
On May 26 2011 20:56 Holgerius wrote:
Why are people so negative about Zero's chances vs Flash? I think it would be a great final.


Because these people haven't watched the past games between Zero and Flash, I guess. Flash is ahead 4-3, hardly an overwhelming advantage.
Zero fighting.
Pvvned
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States405 Posts
May 26 2011 12:24 GMT
#1335
On May 26 2011 20:56 Holgerius wrote:
Why are people so negative about Zero's chances vs Flash? I think it would be a great final.

They wanted to see a JvF duel for a 6th title

Zero is good but he is untested in a Bo5 ZvT. He has beaten Flash in single games before, but I don't think he has what it takes to take down the best terran player in a series.. especially not when Flash will be hungry to tie Nada's mark of 6 titles.

Zero would stand a better chance against Hydra since it would be ZvZ coinflip shenanigans, but then again, Hydra's ZvZ is better than JD's at this point.
http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/R1CH/Happy2.gif
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 12:33:29
May 26 2011 12:25 GMT
#1336
It's really obvious Jaedong sacrificed vZ and vP for his vT now.... but what does it matter if you can't get to the place where you need to use it? He can't coast on his old skill in those matchups before, he's been trying to for ages and it's not working. He's hardly ever playing vP in PL and his play in that matchup has been declining for ages, the Stork and Snow series would have been totally one-sided once upon a time. vZ he plays more often but as people have pointed out, his muta micro in it as been on the downfall for a similarly long time.

To be honest i think it's somewhat the fact that he's in Oz is holding him back from doing as well as he could. I know it wasn't a problem before but it seems to be now. His team isn't competent enough to A. be practice partners and B. support him in proleague. Not excusing Jaedong himself of course in this, it's still his fault but you can understand his logic of improving vT mostly when it's was where he fell short for so long. Hopefully this is a wake-up to catch up.

Also ZerO is a very likable player, i can't think of another played that i'd like more to get into the final other than Jaedong. So it's not fully disappointing. He's prehaps the only other Z that could even give a good series with Flash.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
May 26 2011 12:25 GMT
#1337
On May 26 2011 21:20 Jaksiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 20:56 Holgerius wrote:
Why are people so negative about Zero's chances vs Flash? I think it would be a great final.


Because these people haven't watched the past games between Zero and Flash, I guess. Flash is ahead 4-3, hardly an overwhelming advantage.

For the sake of refrence:


It's not everyday Flash gets a Infested Command Center. Zero plays so confidently - ends up taking every base on the map. Flash vs. Zero finals would be nothing short of spectacular.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
May 26 2011 12:27 GMT
#1338
poor Jaedong.

the rave-video is godly though
keep it deep! @zulison
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
May 26 2011 12:34 GMT
#1339
Actually I'd favor Zero over Flash if the game goes to the late stages.
Well, considering that this is Flash, there are pretty big chances that it doesn't.

Maybe we'll see something new from Flash during the semifinal bo5 vs Hydra, but recently, Flash hasn't been playing with any good Zergs (except Jaedong to whom he lost twice, and Hydra who made a fail attempt of all-in on him), so it's hard to tell how is his TvZ now.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
May 26 2011 12:38 GMT
#1340
Zero <3
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Prev 1 65 66 67 68 69 78 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 17h 44m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mcanning 9
StarCraft: Brood War
BeSt 813
Sharp 636
PianO 436
actioN 343
Leta 298
TY 172
Aegong 107
scan(afreeca) 54
soO 21
KwarK 21
[ Show more ]
Noble 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
Bale 3
League of Legends
JimRising 706
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1363
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr41
Other Games
summit1g9882
WinterStarcraft495
PiGStarcraft320
SortOf61
NeuroSwarm50
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick760
StarCraft 2
ESL.tv143
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH264
• Light_VIP 43
• Sammyuel 28
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2103
League of Legends
• Rush1419
• Stunt499
• HappyZerGling105
Other Games
• Scarra1054
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
17h 44m
The PondCast
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Road to EWC
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
SC Evo League
4 days
Road to EWC
4 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
BeSt vs Soulkey
Road to EWC
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-05-16
2025 GSL S1
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
ASL Season 19
YSL S1
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
China & Korea Top Challenge
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Heroes 10 EU
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025
ESL Pro League S21

Upcoming

Rose Open S1
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
2025 GSL S2
DreamHack Dallas 2025
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.