Like when he let most of his army frozen?
And Baby's multitasking in this game is far from impressive, he let his units dying left and right unnoticed.

I thought his multitask got himself back in the game after his whole army died in the middle of the map. Insane ammounts of dmg done to stats from his vultures allowing him to keep his third and fourth up and running for alot longer than they should have. At a few points stats only had a handful of probes mining and was very close to clasping.

On May 10 2011 14:34 Tenhou wrote:

On May 10 2011 14:31 Scaramanga wrote:

On May 10 2011 14:30 Nesto wrote:

On May 10 2011 14:29 Zona wrote:

On May 10 2011 14:28 Nesto wrote:
baby, so good at using vultures to harass and so bad at placing tanks and using emp's

well, the thing is, when he throws away all those vultures to harass, he doesn't have them to protect his tanks

well yeah, but if 2 storms can hit every single one of your tanks, your placement is surely lacking.

Only twice did he really leave himself open to storms ontop of tanks, his emp use was really good i thought

I don't think his emp was good in that game. Remember that he got a Vessel out before arb tech even started yet you saw the mass stasis in midgame right? Storms were killing units left and right as well. Probably because I was LRing but I only 2 EMP successful that game....

Mass stasis mid game because his vessels got stasised first, not alot you can do about that as t. Stats had his arbiters/army emped alot more than stats stasised

In my opinion the reason why other Terrans don't do INSANE damage with Vultures like Baby did in this game is because they use Vultures to protect Tanks. And they use Tanks to do damage, faster and more effective. When he literally uses all his Vultures to harass the result obliviously will be good but he will lose the game anyway. And if Stat learned to build 5,6 canons to protect his expand, Baby would be even more fucked.
And he really really needs to stop this stupid style, it's funny to watch I concur but he won't win any decent Protoss with that kind of play.
The last thing, for god's sake someone answer me, WHY HE STACK HIS 2 SVs SO THEY WERE STASISED TOGETHER?

If stats isnt a decent toss then give me 10 other protoss' that are better
If a protoss doesn't protect their expos and they die to harassment like that then its worth the trade off as vultures are cheap, quick to remacro and it throws the protoss off so much
He has more than enough vultures to push with, rewatch and see when he pushes, still has the right amount of vultures
If stats had have built cannons baby wouldnt have harassed and it would have been a waste of money for stats which detracts from his army, making it easier for baby to push
Its not a funny style, its probably the best form of tvp you can play
but hey, all debatable

Stat is a decent Protoss, hence Baby lost... What is your point here?
And you say Baby would not harass? I don't know, he is THAT stubborn. Remember how many awesome (!) game he lost after endless harasses that just work for a while and then completely fail apart?
And he didn't have Vultures in big fights, whatever the reason is, that was the reason he lost.

Armathai

1023 Posts

May 10 2011 08:44 GMT

#284

W00t KT Fighting! Seriously tho, Baby losing after doing massive amounts of harass is what I originally remember from the first vod I ever saw of him (Baby vs Modesty game2 in some starleague? 2port wraith 86kills and then still dying)

trexbqs

Malaysia1731 Posts

May 10 2011 08:54 GMT

#285

KT win :D I'm so happy.need to watch Flash vs Shine asap.
Congrats KT.

EchoZ

Japan5041 Posts

May 10 2011 09:23 GMT

#286

My fpl is happy!

meegrean

Thailand7699 Posts

May 10 2011 10:56 GMT

#287

About time KT!

Legatus Lanius

2135 Posts

May 10 2011 12:24 GMT

#288

why was this on so early?

Spica

United States5582 Posts

May 10 2011 12:28 GMT

#289

On May 10 2011 21:24 Legatus Lanius wrote:
why was this on so early?

It was Buddha's Birthday in Korea, which is a national holiday, so they changed the time. Tuesday matches will return to the usual time of 18:00 KST next week though.

Legatus Lanius

2135 Posts

May 10 2011 12:32 GMT

#290

On May 10 2011 21:28 Spica wrote:

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It was Buddha's Birthday in Korea, which is a national holiday, so they changed the time. Tuesday matches will return to the usual time of 18:00 KST next week though.

ah cool, thanks spica.

i couldnt watch it today at either timeslot so meh :C

Velocity`

United Kingdom343 Posts

May 10 2011 16:24 GMT

#291

Ah, sweet. Think KT needed this after what happened against Oz.

Deletrious

United States458 Posts

May 10 2011 17:49 GMT

#292

Just caught the vod of Flash, building turrets is a nice skill toi have, lol.

Djabanete

United States2786 Posts

May 10 2011 18:16 GMT

#293

On May 11 2011 02:49 Deletrious wrote:
Just caught the vod of Flash, building turrets is a nice skill toi have, lol.

Flash knew he would autowin against Shine if he survived Lair tech.

Holgerius

Sweden16951 Posts

May 10 2011 18:20 GMT

#294

Ya, Flash played exactly how I wanted him to.

He doesn't need to cut any corners to beat a player of Shine's level.

infinity2k9

United Kingdom2397 Posts

May 10 2011 19:10 GMT

#295

Shine looked like he was doing alright until he was vulnerable due to building defilers, he got a bit too aggressive with his lurkers then lost too many.

Anyone else think Flash's play was a little off? He didn't look as good as before imo.. his units were fairly scattered around for no reason, vessels moving in unprotected spaces etc. He'll get punished for this kind of mistakes against a better opponent, and i think he benefited a lot from close positions.

Not to mention turret crazy. I know he's facing 2hatch muta but still, it affects eco and will hurt in closer games. Shine was wise to not even bother engaging them.

moopie

12605 Posts

May 10 2011 19:59 GMT

#296

His play was just standard, nothing wrong with it. He didn't take shortcuts, and didn't try to abuse his opponent too much. He did go a bit overboard with the turrets but as a result the 2 hatch mutas did absolutely no damage in harass. He pretty much kept Shine occupied in the middle (and on the defensive) the entire game and then pushed in before consume was done.

Tenhou

1052 Posts

May 10 2011 21:41 GMT

#297

On May 11 2011 04:10 infinity2k9 wrote:
Shine looked like he was doing alright until he was vulnerable due to building defilers, he got a bit too aggressive with his lurkers then lost too many.

Anyone else think Flash's play was a little off? He didn't look as good as before imo.. his units were fairly scattered around for no reason, vessels moving in unprotected spaces etc. He'll get punished for this kind of mistakes against a better opponent, and i think he benefited a lot from close positions.

Not to mention turret crazy. I know he's facing 2hatch muta but still, it affects eco and will hurt in closer games. Shine was wise to not even bother engaging them.

ummmm I think you're a bit off.

If you don't let muta do any damage when facing a 2hatch muta then you easily get a big advantage so more turrets is better than having to rebuild SCVs then build turret.

Flash has always having vessel moving around unprotected space if you watch him play at the beginning of his dominance(the start of the 09-10 proleague). Moving units around is normal, especially reinforcing your main army and it'll throw the opponent off since they won't know which base you're going after. If I remember correctly from last night(I just got back from work) some of Shine's lurker were at the 3rd when flash's tank sieging(the last battle) the natural of shine.

Gahlo

United States35091 Posts

May 11 2011 02:05 GMT

#298

Y u no has interviews yet? щ(°д°щ)

Demand2k

Norway875 Posts

May 11 2011 03:17 GMT

#299

On May 11 2011 03:16 Djabanete wrote:

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Flash knew he would autowin against Shine if he survived Hatchery tech.