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On May 12 2011 19:52 Holgerius wrote:I think we can safely assume Flash and JD have their spots in the semis Finals secured.  Well, not really, but based on these games I don't give Leta and Grape anyone much chance to be honest.
Fixed.
FvJ Finals! YAY!
On May 12 2011 19:54 KristianJS wrote:Zero or Calm I think could both beat JD on a good day. + Show Spoiler +Neither Hydra nor Mind can beat Flash though, that's for sure.
Let's hope for a JD vs Flash finals to see who get's the Golden Badge first ^^
Zero ZvZ beating JD in a Bo5? Seriously?
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Jaedong's ZvZ is undoubtedly his most questionable matchup right now. In his last 10 he's 6-4 ZvZ, with 2 losses to soulkey, a loss to S2, and a loss to great. His muta control looked very weak in his series against Hydra, and undoubtedly if they were to go up against each other again I would give the edge to Hydra.
Against ZerO, who knows...it's a coinflip I think. Quite literally for ZerO, his ZvZ winrate is 50%,
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On May 12 2011 19:56 whiterabb1t wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 19:55 Holgerius wrote:
You gotta admire Flash's mindgame abilities. :D Whipping out the proxy rax bunker rush all of a sudden. you meant cheese?
You're joking I hope, that wasn't cheese.
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On May 12 2011 20:05 J1.au wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 19:56 whiterabb1t wrote:On May 12 2011 19:55 Holgerius wrote:
You gotta admire Flash's mindgame abilities. :D Whipping out the proxy rax bunker rush all of a sudden. you meant cheese? You're joking I hope, that wasn't cheese.
i just had to look at your icon and know what your saying.
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Russian Federation327 Posts
to see who get's the Golden Badge first ^^
and surpass Nada
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Sorry guys, Flash is the best cheeser around.
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On May 12 2011 20:10 okum wrote:
Sorry guys, Flash is the best cheeser around.
Indeed. ^__^ So good at knowing WHEN to do it, and so good at executing it.
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On May 12 2011 20:09 Yodo wrote:and surpass Nada
Technically they don't get to surpass Nada until they get the Golden Badge + 1 more, but I'm sure both of them can do that eventually.
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On May 12 2011 19:56 whiterabb1t wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 19:55 Holgerius wrote:
You gotta admire Flash's mindgame abilities. :D Whipping out the proxy rax bunker rush all of a sudden. you meant cheese?
how is that cheese?? -_- it was a 9rax.. oftentimes, the opponent easily counters. leta just got unlucky by going 14cc
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On May 12 2011 20:05 wherebugsgo wrote:
Jaedong's ZvZ is undoubtedly his most questionable matchup right now. In his last 10 he's 6-4 ZvZ, with 2 losses to soulkey, a loss to S2, and a loss to great. His muta control looked very weak in his series against Hydra, and undoubtedly if they were to go up against each other again I would give the edge to Hydra.
Against ZerO, who knows...it's a coinflip I think. Quite literally for ZerO, his ZvZ winrate is 50%,
His ZvP was 5-5 before this match.
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On May 12 2011 20:12 Musou wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 20:09 Yodo wrote:to see who get's the Golden Badge first ^^ and surpass Nada Technically they don't get to surpass Nada until they get the Golden Badge + 1 more, but I'm sure both of them can do that eventually.
Considering that Flash is going to play for at least another 4 1/2 years, it's definitely possible.
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Did you guys notice that Flash only scouted the natural @ 7 o'clock base? He could have been in truble if Leta was there. Don't think he would have lost anyway, but it certainly would have made the game very exciting.
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Ok, honestly these 4 games are a little underwhelming to say the least. I think it's safe to say none of these games pass the 20-mins mark.
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On May 12 2011 20:26 Lucumo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 20:12 Musou wrote:On May 12 2011 20:09 Yodo wrote:to see who get's the Golden Badge first ^^ and surpass Nada Technically they don't get to surpass Nada until they get the Golden Badge + 1 more, but I'm sure both of them can do that eventually. Considering that Flash is going to play for at least another 4 1/2 years, it's definitely possible.
how do you know that? lol
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On May 12 2011 20:26 Elroi wrote:
Did you guys notice that Flash only scouted the natural @ 7 o'clock base? He could have been in truble if Leta was there. Don't think he would have lost anyway, but it certainly would have made the game very exciting.
He scouts only naturals in most of his games lately. He has prepared counters to quick expansions or standard play probably. It's like - "if i can scout fast exp quickly enough, i can counter it. If there is no quick expo, my standard game is enough."
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
Hm... Dante's Peak natural isn't wallable yes? or is it?
i'm trying to foresee what could happen in JvF if it happened. Generally, maps with wallable natural and good for mech suck, cause they give too much of an advantage to Terran
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51117 Posts
On May 12 2011 20:00 whiterabb1t wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 19:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 12 2011 19:56 whiterabb1t wrote:On May 12 2011 19:55 Holgerius wrote:
You gotta admire Flash's mindgame abilities. :D Whipping out the proxy rax bunker rush all of a sudden. you meant cheese? did you know that  Flash practiced for this game with Fantasy? how THE FUCK is it related to it being cheese???
it isn't,I just wanted to see your reaction.
I'm happy.:D
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
For the cheese discussion: Don't forget that Leta also cheesed, ecomically. Flash expected that Leta would be greedy on a 4-player map and didn't let him get away with it.
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This is part of the reason (the other reason being that he's just plain fucking good at the game) why Flash is so dangerous in series play. It's a huge fucking map, Flash has been going 14 CC or Rax FE most of his recent TvTs, Leta knows he has to try to get all the advantages he possible can vs Flash... it would've been stupid of Leta to not go 14 CC (or cheese himself). BANG! Proxy rax! Down goes Leta.
We're talking about a guy who in the middle of a Starleague final devised an impromptu 5 Rax bunker rush build because he didn't want to get behind in the mindgames. :D So smart.
<3 Flash!
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On May 12 2011 21:03 Fenrax wrote:
For the cheese discussion: Don't forget that Leta also cheesed, ecomically. Flash expected that Leta would be greedy on a 4-player map and didn't let him get away with it. Honestly when I saw Leta build a CC in his main I was afraid Flash might let him get away because Leta predicted Flash's nat-only scouting pattern :O but then Flash's hack just kicked in and his SCV went up the 10.5 ramp
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