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hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
May 12 2011 13:12 GMT
#981
How all-in was the proxy? I heard it came fairly late, as opposed to something that was 100% serious cheese.

anyways, props to Flash for correctly punishing the economic cheese (blind 14CC) by Leta
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
May 12 2011 13:17 GMT
#982
On May 12 2011 22:12 hauton wrote:
How all-in was the proxy? I heard it came fairly late, as opposed to something that was 100% serious cheese.

anyways, props to Flash for correctly punishing the economic cheese (blind 14CC) by Leta

It was just a single rax in the middle of the map, it was just a simple forward rax opening IIRC.
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
May 12 2011 13:19 GMT
#983
On May 12 2011 22:17 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 22:12 hauton wrote:
How all-in was the proxy? I heard it came fairly late, as opposed to something that was 100% serious cheese.

anyways, props to Flash for correctly punishing the economic cheese (blind 14CC) by Leta

It was just a single rax in the middle of the map, it was just a simple forward rax opening IIRC.
rax after supply? if so its not really cheese =/, just an aggressive proxy rax. i did watch the game just missed the first 2-3mins
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
whiterabb1t
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium681 Posts
May 12 2011 13:20 GMT
#984
On May 12 2011 22:17 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 22:12 hauton wrote:
How all-in was the proxy? I heard it came fairly late, as opposed to something that was 100% serious cheese.

anyways, props to Flash for correctly punishing the economic cheese (blind 14CC) by Leta

It was just a single rax in the middle of the map, it was just a simple forward rax opening IIRC.

that would be the understatement of the day
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 12 2011 13:23 GMT
#985
Ya, I think it was normal rax timing, which means it didn't really set him behind (compared to a standard opening) and the only risk was if Leta had scouted cross map early and had managed to kill of the building SCV. He could've easily transitioned into something completely normal if he had scouted anything different.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
May 12 2011 13:26 GMT
#986
On May 12 2011 18:15 Elroi wrote:
Jaedong looks like he's got a bad cold

He confirms that he has a cold too. -_-
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3516 Posts
May 12 2011 13:31 GMT
#987
Fortunately there is a week between now and the next set of games so hopefully he can recover.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
whiterabb1t
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium681 Posts
May 12 2011 13:35 GMT
#988
On May 12 2011 20:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 20:00 whiterabb1t wrote:
On May 12 2011 19:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 12 2011 19:56 whiterabb1t wrote:
On May 12 2011 19:55 Holgerius wrote:
You gotta admire Flash's mindgame abilities. :D Whipping out the proxy rax bunker rush all of a sudden.


you meant cheese?



did you know that (T)Flash practiced for this game with (T)Fantasy?

how THE FUCK is it related to it being cheese???


it isn't,I just wanted to see your reaction.

I'm happy.:D

your posts are always... strange... in a not good way...
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
May 12 2011 14:18 GMT
#989
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
May 12 2011 14:24 GMT
#990
Hydra, you better come back with a vengeance and shut up all the haters!!! GOGO HYDRA!!
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
May 12 2011 14:26 GMT
#991
Forward rax in TvT is not cheese. The rax is usually used for scouting or punishing greedy builds like 14CC. Its quite a normal build.
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
May 12 2011 14:48 GMT
#992
Leta 14cc vs. Flash. . . it's like I know what's going to happen before I click the VOD
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 14:53:35
May 12 2011 14:49 GMT
#993
On May 12 2011 22:35 whiterabb1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 20:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 12 2011 20:00 whiterabb1t wrote:
On May 12 2011 19:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 12 2011 19:56 whiterabb1t wrote:
On May 12 2011 19:55 Holgerius wrote:
You gotta admire Flash's mindgame abilities. :D Whipping out the proxy rax bunker rush all of a sudden.


you meant cheese?



did you know that (T)Flash practiced for this game with (T)Fantasy?

how THE FUCK is it related to it being cheese???


it isn't,I just wanted to see your reaction.

I'm happy.:D

your posts are always... strange... in a not good way...


What he's said he's done is basically a definition of trolling. What's so strange about it in nowadays' internets? :DDDD

On May 12 2011 23:18 qrs wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnb8XEy7rIk

rofl
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
May 12 2011 15:06 GMT
#994
Wake up. Turn on computer. Open browser. Click "ABC [MSL] Ro8 Day 1". Check results. Feel relieved that Jaedong got the job done on the first day. Seems like I've been nervous a lot about Jaedong just randomly losing recently. He really needs to work on being so dominant that I can't dare question him.

Jaedong hwaiting!
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Senya
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
54 Posts
May 12 2011 15:21 GMT
#995
yeah I'm so glad jaedong got to show his zvp pretty sweet.
Hard work is meaningless if you do not believe in yourself. - Gai Sensei
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 12 2011 15:35 GMT
#996
Meh, out of 4 games there was only 1 really entertaining game, Mind vs Hydra.

The rest were pretty much onesided curbstomps.

:<.
WriterXiao8~~
G3CKO
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1430 Posts
May 12 2011 15:47 GMT
#997
Nooooo Zero
┌⋉⊳∀⊲) ☆ If your soul has not truly given up, then you can hear the sound that races through the end of the world.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8184 Posts
May 12 2011 15:51 GMT
#998
On May 12 2011 21:03 Fenrax wrote:
For the cheese discussion: Don't forget that Leta also cheesed, ecomically. Flash expected that Leta would be greedy on a 4-player map and didn't let him get away with it.

Oh god people just stop saying everything which is not fact into expand is cheese.

14CC is an economic opening and forward rax is a rather aggressive opening. There is no cheese whatsoever. If next time Flash goes for BBS with scvs all in, then yeah, we'll talk of a cheese rush.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
whiterabb1t
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium681 Posts
May 12 2011 15:53 GMT
#999
On May 12 2011 23:49 _Quasar_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 22:35 whiterabb1t wrote:
On May 12 2011 20:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 12 2011 20:00 whiterabb1t wrote:
On May 12 2011 19:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 12 2011 19:56 whiterabb1t wrote:
On May 12 2011 19:55 Holgerius wrote:
You gotta admire Flash's mindgame abilities. :D Whipping out the proxy rax bunker rush all of a sudden.


you meant cheese?



did you know that (T)Flash practiced for this game with (T)Fantasy?

how THE FUCK is it related to it being cheese???


it isn't,I just wanted to see your reaction.

I'm happy.:D

your posts are always... strange... in a not good way...


What he's said he's done is basically a definition of trolling. What's so strange about it in nowadays' internets? :DDDD

I see. But you'd expect someone with upward 6000 post to be better than that.

On May 12 2011 23:26 p14c wrote:
Forward rax in TvT is not cheese. The rax is usually used for scouting or punishing greedy builds like 14CC. Its quite a normal build.

You are right, thank you. TvT pose no immediate thread early game that can't be solved by them good ole marines and scv. And given its a 4player map, it seems the correct idea to cover the "flight" distance toward the enemy base. Too much Bisu, I have to brush up on my TvT.

BTW, coding in TL seems off lately. First I couldn't manage to make blue text work. And all throughout the LR earlier the bold format for the winners in Groups A and B - (Z)Jaedong and (Z)Calm, were not working. They are now, though. Life is indeed full of mysteries :p
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51446 Posts
May 12 2011 16:09 GMT
#1000
you've obvioulsy never heard of hot_bid then.

although I must say leta should have recovered to a standard game instead of going 6fact 2base attack into fail into a standard game putting him way behind.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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