Ebay trying to get thrown down Scans kill 2 of 3 DT's All 3 with 9 kills from all of them Ebay up Mines going down Shuttle out didn't see what was loaded Vultures spot the shuttle
CC is floated over to the 3rd Goons almost snipe the CC The CC lives Shuttle coming back for round 2? Free trying to get his 3rd, Vulture and a mine delaying that Free's trying to press Canata's 3rd but retreats
Stream crashed on my end T.T Armory almost goes down to goons? A recall? Dropship sneaking to the main, tank and a vulture on high ground vulture at the 3rd Stasis catches 4 tanks and several vultures Free's 5th 5 nat going down to vultures The main at 5 is scouted Pure zealot attack at the 3rd
+1 +2 armor and weaps for Canata +1 armor +1 attack for Free Free's 3rd gets shut down Free engaging the force, gets a couple of mines dragged, nothing too major The Nexus is down Tanks shelling up to the main I think the Robo was unpowered Recall in the main of Canata Two recalls! Mine getting 3-4 goons The recall gets cleaned up Robo is down
Archives and citidal going down 3-4 gates also down +2+2 armor weaps for Free now Stasis on a couple of tanks and gols in an engagement Free falls back Canata taking Free's old 3rd Vultures at 6, turn away Free catching Canata unseiged Pushing back Two? Vessel(s) down
free doesn't look like he has much of an army, taking a7th i guess LOLOLOLOLOL
canata taking his 5th.
umm i guess its always good to be 2 bases ahead?
free stasis' some stuff in the middle, canata's got a GREAT concave of tanks. free has to back offf. arbs comin in doin some damage to tanks though lol
Canata expanding to 9 Stasis on some tanks, gols and a vessel Huge engaement Not enough zealots from Free Loses his two arbiters Four more inc Free expoing to 5's mineral only 6 under attack by tanks and vultures Failed recall at 9 Free pushing the middle Tons of statsis Free still mining at 6 Canata lifts 9
2-3 for Canata 2-1-2 for Free Arbiter hanging around the 9o base Two vultures slaughter every probe at 6 No recall at 9, Arbiter dies to two turrets No arbiters in the middle engagement Two JUST SITTING IDLE Free gets slaughtered
Canata taking 7 No probes to be found at 6 Recall at 7 The CC crumbles More probe massacre at 6 -.- The nex is going to go down Free pushing at 9 CC lifts at 9, but its not destroyed
Recall at 7 nat and 7 main Tons of blue goo, but the goons take out most of the tanks CC is in the red and destroyed Push from Canata at 5's mineral only gets repelled
I only watched five seconds every five minutes. From what I could see, it was a great game where Free made an impressive comeback. But that's probably since I didn't get bored.
On March 17 2011 17:43 okum wrote: I only watched five seconds every five minutes. From what I could see, it was a great game where Free made an impressive comeback. But that's probably since I didn't get bored.
If you define "an impressive comeback" as "remembering how to win after not knowing how to win", then yes, it was a great game.
On March 17 2011 17:43 okum wrote: I only watched five seconds every five minutes. From what I could see, it was a great game where Free made an impressive comeback. But that's probably since I didn't get bored.
If you define "an impressive comeback" as "remembering how to win after not knowing how to win", then yes, it was a great game.
more like "starving your opponent out after not knowing how to win".
On March 17 2011 17:43 okum wrote: I only watched five seconds every five minutes. From what I could see, it was a great game where Free made an impressive comeback. But that's probably since I didn't get bored.
If you define "an impressive comeback" as "remembering how to win after not knowing how to win", then yes, it was a great game.
more like "starving your opponent out after not knowing how to win".
At least he remembered he could win by starving Canata. That Arbiter moment at 9o'clock was just... atrocious.
On March 17 2011 18:08 ArvickHero wrote: what a stupid way to lose a won game
eh? Imo Tyson totally fucked up his timing. Where had enough time to get 3 expansion up with some nice building placement. Hadn't Where sent his huge hydra army from his main to his expansion that late the damage Tyson had made would have been significantly lower. So I don't know at which point Tyson was clearly winning .
ovie down; templar archives; cannon in main + 2nd gate. 5th hatch for miso in his nat, plus a sunk. mutas out; scourge scout main. gonna be 4 gates for free.
hydra den goes down. speedlots + sairs moving out to hit the 3rd.
zealots run by! mutas try to defend--sairs splashing--mutas split-- zealots take down the drones in 4th!
On March 17 2011 18:08 ArvickHero wrote: what a stupid way to lose a won game
eh? Imo Tyson totally fucked up his timing. Where had enough time to get 3 expansion up with some nice building placement. Hadn't Where sent his huge hydra army from his main to his expansion that late the damage Tyson had made would have been significantly lower. So I don't know at which point Tyson was clearly winning .
Tyson had a huge advantage from his timing attack (note how pretty much all the drones at the nat died, among other losses), had he been able to keep those HT alive he would've been able to hold off any attack from Where and then ride his macro advantage to victory. Anyways, looks like he's going to get fucked up by Free.
On March 17 2011 18:31 _Quasar_ wrote: how shitty P really needs to play to lose anyway? it seems that with any level of shitness they always have a chance wtf...
how shitty do their opponents need to play for them to win? Apparently this shitty.. Also I don't see how free was playing badly this game.
On March 17 2011 18:37 tenacity wrote: where should have built 2-3 more sunkens at this third
greedy zergs dying to speedzeal/sair attacks
... why haven't they learned yet?????
because if they build too much static defense early on, then they die to the mid-game Dragoon/Templar/Zealot timing. Although I do agree that Where should've had 2 sunkens at his third, and delay the fourth until after the first +1 Speedlot timing.
On March 17 2011 18:37 tenacity wrote: where should have built 2-3 more sunkens at this third
greedy zergs dying to speedzeal/sair attacks
... why haven't they learned yet?????
because if they build too much static defense early on, then they die to the mid-game Dragoon/Templar/Zealot timing. Although I do agree that Where should've had 2 sunkens at his third, and delay the fourth until after the first +1 Speedlot timing.
or they could delay the 4th a bit and get more units... idk. speedzeal attack just seems to work too often. not sure why miso went mutas either
On March 17 2011 18:37 tenacity wrote: where should have built 2-3 more sunkens at this third
greedy zergs dying to speedzeal/sair attacks
... why haven't they learned yet?????
because if they build too much static defense early on, then they die to the mid-game Dragoon/Templar/Zealot timing. Although I do agree that Where should've had 2 sunkens at his third, and delay the fourth until after the first +1 Speedlot timing.
or they could delay the 4th a bit and get more units... idk. speedzeal attack just seems to work too often. not sure why miso went mutas either
Miso's thinking was that since he got mutas out faster than normal, he would use those to defend against the Zealots. Normally, Protoss won't bring out their Sairs w/ the +1 Speedlots until they have at least 6, but free surprised Miso here by bringing out his Sairs before the critical mass, but enough to fend off the Mutas (and let the Zealots do their work). IMO, just doing 2 Sunken per front and using that larva on zerglings instead of Mutas would've defended it too.
Miso's thinking here was pretty smart tho, had he gotten like ~4 scourge along with his Mutas, he would've succeeded in defending without significant losses.
And there's no real reason for Zerg to delay the fourth very long after the first 6 +1 Speedlot timing.
Huge battle on lower right of map, Canata pushing the 2 expos there, stasis on tanks weaken Canata's army, but reinforcements hold. EDIT: NVM STORMS ON CLUMPED UNITS PWN SO MUCH
Canata if only you didn't do that fail push in the mid and get flanked from 2 sides >.< If you pushed the bottom right 2 expos you might've done some more damage and came back from that. Oh well, protoss macro > mines
On March 17 2011 19:23 legaton wrote: The game was entertaining, why the hate?
Turtle terran vs no obs suicide toss?
Canata sits in his base for 10 minute intervals only to push out and get wiped, rinse and repeat.
han is allergic to observers, so he walks entire armies into minefields over and over again. Also doesn't do a good job protecting his expos from harass.
They should have scheduled the Group 5 at 20.30. They forgot Canata was playing. Or maybe they planned on a 5 rax ? Anyway it's amazing how long were these two games. Canata never stood a chance against free / Tyson, but still managed to drag both games for so long.... A real talent.
Canata didn't play especially bad , but he should have tried to expand earlier before he got mined out in both games . Mines and 3 - 3 mech get really cost effective against protoss .
On March 17 2011 19:28 endy wrote: They should have scheduled the Group 5 at 20.30. They forgot Canata was playing. Or maybe they planned on a 5 rax ? Anyway it's amazing how long were these two games. Canata never stood a chance against free / Tyson, but still managed to drag both games for so long.... A real talent.
actually at one point against tyson i thought he could turn it around, but he failed to take out the 2 expos at 4/5 so yea apart from that it was domination ;O
On March 17 2011 19:25 Ryo wrote: So far 7 zergs have already qualified and this is only group 4.
Don't worry. As long as Bisu, Snow, Flash and the likes are not eliminated(yet?), ZvZ finals chances are slowly decreasing. I hope most non-zerg players will last long to make this MSL beautiful.
On March 17 2011 19:25 Ryo wrote: So far 7 zergs have already qualified and this is only group 4.
Don't worry. As long as Bisu, Snow, Flash and the likes are not eliminated(yet?), ZvZ finals chances are slowly decreasing. I hope most non-zerg players will last long to make this MSL beautiful.
On March 17 2011 19:25 Ryo wrote: So far 7 zergs have already qualified and this is only group 4.
Don't worry. As long as Bisu, Snow, Flash and the likes are not eliminated(yet?), ZvZ finals chances are slowly decreasing. I hope most non-zerg players will last long to make this MSL beautiful.
I hope so.
Especially Snow, his PvZ Reavers is comparable to Bisu's Sair/DT, and Flash's MnM awesome micro. Just some things to make vZ games epic. Seeing these players surviving this MSL against zergs should not be boring until the finals.
On March 17 2011 19:38 tenacity wrote: Where vs Tyson.
Both players are doing exactly the same shit as before, but Where is going to add some sunkens. He might have read my comment-.-
Goons>>>>>sunkens
snot when there's that many of them. He realized that if he didnt change his simcity his front buildings woul'dve been picked off.. Not enough sunkens at the nat rofl
Staying on Mutas was a terrible idea tho, should've gotten way more Zerglings to compensate against the heavy Dragoon mass.
I'm happy that Tyson will advance . Hopefully he will take out some protoss or terran in his run and then will inevitably become food for a better zerg .
What a scrub Miso is..and he dared to call Bisu out during the last selection ceremony. Shit talking is only good when you have the skills to back it up.
This reminds me of the CoDra strategy guide that SuperJongMan made about PvZ. After watching this game, it seems like it'd be a good idea for me to learn it lol
On March 17 2011 19:45 ArvickHero wrote: This reminds me of the CoDra strategy guide that SuperJongMan made about PvZ. After watching this game, it seems like it'd be a good idea for me to learn it lol
On March 17 2011 19:55 mnesthes wrote: Still, Free and Tyson advancing didn't fall out of my predictions. But I've also noticed that there is no LR thread for Group 5 yet =/
yep and group 5 is way more interesting. go kang-min!!
On March 17 2011 19:55 mnesthes wrote: Still, Free and Tyson advancing didn't fall out of my predictions. But I've also noticed that there is no LR thread for Group 5 yet =/
yep and group 5 is way more interesting. go kang-min!!
nalra playing right now could probably beat hoejja -_-
On March 17 2011 19:55 mnesthes wrote: Still, Free and Tyson advancing didn't fall out of my predictions. But I've also noticed that there is no LR thread for Group 5 yet =/
yep and group 5 is way more interesting. go kang-min!!
nalra playing right now could probably beat hoejja -_-
On March 18 2011 07:18 infinity2k9 wrote: Tyson vs Canata was AWFUL. Damn that was bad.
So was free vs Canata, and the first miso vs han. 2nd miso vs han was sorta bad too (sunken defense). free vs miso was probably the best game of the bunch. pretty fail group overall.
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