I know what your thinking. Jaehoon? vs a zerg? haha! I fet the same way going in too, but It was actualy a good game, gets a recomendation from me. And for those that are fans of hilarious fail, it has a good amount of that too Edit: oh, and it was of medium length. I feel the lenght is at least a little important to include.
This Game was nearly the exact opposite of Game 1. It was just weird, so recomended if you like unorthadox, but not necessarily good games. short to medium length
Kind of a shitty group. Jaehoon will most likely just be here to provide free wins and the rest is ZvZ. Then again, Jaehoon can be hilarious to watch at times.
On December 23 2010 19:56 Crunchums wrote: let's go calm! hopefully jaehoon will fail in an entertaining way
Jaehoon is indeed entertaining regardless of results. I think he and Much are two players Stork likes to ask around for strategies. It's too bad he doesn't have the skills to back up those strategies.
Edit: Just as I say that, he fails in a very non-entertaining way.
jaehoon runs his probes from his main - calm backs off with his mutas trailing his scourge - jaehoon picks off 3 mutas with moving-shot sairs, then turns around as the scourge approach - nice
calm throws like 10 scourge to kill one sair as they continue to attack jaehoon's main - the mutas finish off the archives and back off - 3 or 4 mutas die as they pull away
calm apparently can't clone scourge, or jaehoon has really good sair micro. i choose the former. jaehoon is somehow holding with sairs + 2 archons, nice.
jaehoon with some zealots/2 obs clears out 12 - a shuttle heading out in FRONT of jaahoon's sairs - drops a templar at calm's nat - storms almost nothing... and shuttle picked off
2 reavers chilling outside jaehoon's nat a lurker field set up outside calm's nat
calm with a lot of idle larva a storm on one of the lurkers outside calm's nat - jaehoon's zealot heavy army taking hits from lurkers before backing off
sairs hunt down an OL at calm's 3rd despite the spore
On December 23 2010 20:21 ArvickHero wrote: I liked Jaehoon's build, as it seemed like it wasn't an autoloss vs pool strats, but Jaehoon's play just got worse and worse as the game went on -___-
Would have been an autoloss if Calm actually went up to the main and kept streaming in lings but he didn't do that and never got speed til like lair was finished for whatever reason.
On December 23 2010 20:20 Jackal03 wrote: jaehoon ggs
i'm sad, he was playing so bad it was hillarious
the thing is, he wasn't playing that poorly! he actually held well at the beginning, and the advantage of going nex-gate-forge made up for the probes he lost
it's only at the end when he lost his 3rd, that was when he really started to crack
Stop making fun of Jaehoon. It wasn't as bad as some of you described it. Sometimes your negative comments are reposted on dcinside and MBC fangirls think foreign BW fans are jerks.
On December 23 2010 20:25 Ryo wrote: Stop making fun of Jaehoon. It wasn't as bad as some of you described it. Sometimes your negative comments are reposted on dcinside and MBC fangirls think foreign BW fans are jerks.
On December 23 2010 20:25 Ryo wrote: Stop making fun of Jaehoon. It wasn't as bad as some of you described it. Sometimes your negative comments are reposted on dcinside and MBC fangirls think foreign BW fans are jerks.
-_- it was awful. And I have no doubt that fans that are not 13 year old girls on DC inside think so too.
On December 23 2010 20:20 Jackal03 wrote: jaehoon ggs
i'm sad, he was playing so bad it was hillarious
the thing is, he wasn't playing that poorly! he actually held well at the beginning, and the advantage of going nex-gate-forge made up for the probes he lost
it's only at the end when he lost his 3rd, that was when he really started to crack
from the sair micro, it was all downhill
no obs to defend the 3rd, 2 fail drops, 5 reavers and no defence, 5 ht+1 zealot sniped by lings...
On December 23 2010 20:25 Ryo wrote: Stop making fun of Jaehoon. It wasn't as bad as some of you described it. Sometimes your negative comments are reposted on dcinside and MBC fangirls think foreign BW fans are jerks.
This is not a very convincing argument...
Not making an argument. Just stating what I read online.
I think if Jaehoon would be more aggressive with his massive fleet of corsairs early game he would have won already. He destroyed Calm's airforce several times but didn't bring the fleet to the enemy base to kill muta / overlords.
On December 23 2010 20:30 virpi wrote: some of jaehoons drops were really bad. he's certainly not playing complete crap, but he has this tendency to produce hilarious moments.
On December 23 2010 20:25 Ryo wrote: Stop making fun of Jaehoon. It wasn't as bad as some of you described it. Sometimes your negative comments are reposted on dcinside and MBC fangirls think foreign BW fans are jerks.
This is not a very convincing argument...
Not making an argument. Just stating what I read online.
Trying to persuade people to change how they post about Jaehoon seems like "making an argument" to me.
Ah whatev.
Killer the orange zerg at 8. Hydra the blue zerg at 10.5 It's Dante's Peak!
hydra now trying to attack killer's ramp gets a ling past killer's lings on the ramp but killer wins the ling battle all the same with superior numbers
mutas out for both players at almost the same time, interesting
hydra's mutas in killer's main - raiding drones - killer's mutas being elsewhere
killer gets a ling into hydra's main but never reaches the main creep - 4 lings attacking hydra's nat - finished off by 6 new lings - killer being really hesitant with his mutas - not committing despite being down a base
both players land a scourge? killer micro'ing better now but takes another 2 scourge hits never mind about that better micro killer loses the muta battle and concedes
On December 23 2010 20:57 GTR wrote: hydra is effort in disguise......
thats savior legacy i guess, CJ aways have a top zerg in their lines
sad to discuss this, but maybe this is why hite refused to give a top-tier salary for effort (and then subsequently retiring), i guess they had tons of confidence in hydra leading towards the new season and they felt effort wasn't worth keeping at a high salary rate anymore.
On December 23 2010 19:50 hacklebeast wrote: And for the record, I cant delete that spoiler at the bottom, I don't see that text on the edit page. If you don't belive me try quoting this, its not there.
You have an extra close spoiler tag after predictions.
On December 23 2010 20:57 GTR wrote: hydra is effort in disguise......
thats savior legacy i guess, CJ aways have a top zerg in their lines
sad to discuss this, but maybe this is why hite refused to give a top-tier salary for effort (and then subsequently retiring), i guess they had tons of confidence in hydra leading towards the new season and they felt effort wasn't worth keeping at a high salary rate anymore.
any idea if CJ's contracts took a cut of individual tournament winnings? That might have soured things as well.
On December 23 2010 19:50 hacklebeast wrote: And for the record, I cant delete that spoiler at the bottom, I don't see that text on the edit page. If you don't belive me try quoting this, its not there.
You have an extra close spoiler tag after predictions.
I don't know why that would cause a tag at the bottom, but thanks, its gone now.
On December 23 2010 21:12 Manifesto7 wrote: Let's see what surprise Jaehoon whips up for us here. I actually want to see him win so he has to face Calm again.
That would be nice and definitely in the realm of possibility considering he is playing Killer
lair for killer, jaehoon takes his own gas 4 lings appear, and another 2 - don't bother to chase the scouting probe and head out...but they change their minds and come back, or 5 do
killer taking his 3rd gas jaehoon's support bay finishes at his back nat - killer moving out with a bunch of mutas and a lot of scourge - arrives in jaehoon's undefended main
reaver dropped in killer's main - dud scarab - wtf? shuttle chased by mutas and still drops the reaver at the 3rd? and a goon the two die almost immediately but apparently 4 drones were killed?
jaehoon moving out with maybe 8 or so goons, sairs, plus shuttle/reaver - killer with just one sunken at his nat - but mutas coming back - scourge fail, mutas back off!
On December 23 2010 21:26 Lann555 wrote: So I went to the toilet cause I expected the game to be over anyway in Killers favor. I come bback and Killer just GG'ed out? What the hell happened?
8 goons and sairs approached Killer's base, and rather than just make a couple groups of lings from his FOUR BASES to kill the goons, he tapped gg.
On December 23 2010 21:26 Lann555 wrote: So I went to the toilet cause I expected the game to be over anyway in Killers favor. I come bback and Killer just GG'ed out? What the hell happened?
8 goons and sairs approached Killer's base, and rather than just make a couple groups of lings from his FOUR BASES to kill the goons, he tapped gg.
well there was a Reaver >_> also that fourth base was barely up I think, so it wasn't paying for itself yet
On December 23 2010 21:26 Lann555 wrote: So I went to the toilet cause I expected the game to be over anyway in Killers favor. I come bback and Killer just GG'ed out? What the hell happened?
8 goons and sairs approached Killer's base, and rather than just make a couple groups of lings from his FOUR BASES to kill the goons, he tapped gg.
That explains why the Korean commentators were so shocked. It seemed almost impossible to lose the game with 4 bases running
On December 23 2010 21:26 Lann555 wrote: So I went to the toilet cause I expected the game to be over anyway in Killers favor. I come bback and Killer just GG'ed out? What the hell happened?
8 goons and sairs approached Killer's base, and rather than just make a couple groups of lings from his FOUR BASES to kill the goons, he tapped gg.
On December 23 2010 21:26 Lann555 wrote: So I went to the toilet cause I expected the game to be over anyway in Killers favor. I come bback and Killer just GG'ed out? What the hell happened?
8 goons and sairs approached Killer's base, and rather than just make a couple groups of lings from his FOUR BASES to kill the goons, he tapped gg.
yeah... this is like the most lol hilarious fail game by Killer ever
WTF!? I know Killer made that hydra den at the beginning to mask his decision to go mutas. But seriously, he was on 3 gas and 4 hatch and couldn't make a few lurkers to keep the protoss in his base forever?
On December 23 2010 21:26 Lann555 wrote: So I went to the toilet cause I expected the game to be over anyway in Killers favor. I come bback and Killer just GG'ed out? What the hell happened?
8 goons and sairs approached Killer's base, and rather than just make a couple groups of lings from his FOUR BASES to kill the goons, he tapped gg.
He had a reaver in a speedshuttle there too...
Which he could have just killed right away with his muta/scourge, leaving the goons alone.
On December 23 2010 21:26 Lann555 wrote: So I went to the toilet cause I expected the game to be over anyway in Killers favor. I come bback and Killer just GG'ed out? What the hell happened?
8 goons and sairs approached Killer's base, and rather than just make a couple groups of lings from his FOUR BASES to kill the goons, he tapped gg.
He had a reaver in a speedshuttle there too...
Which he could have just killed right away with his muta/scourge, leaving the goons alone.
like wtf was killer shooting at with all those mutas when the reaver was first dropped outside his expo. There is zero reason why that should have been gg unless he just looked away from the battle. He could have raped the reaver, saved his scourge, and waited for lings which he was already waiting.
On December 23 2010 21:26 Lann555 wrote: So I went to the toilet cause I expected the game to be over anyway in Killers favor. I come bback and Killer just GG'ed out? What the hell happened?
8 goons and sairs approached Killer's base, and rather than just make a couple groups of lings from his FOUR BASES to kill the goons, he tapped gg.
He had a reaver in a speedshuttle there too...
Which he could have just killed right away with his muta/scourge, leaving the goons alone.
well his scourge had already evaporated by then
after all those probe kills, too
After his last muta attack got beaten off by lets see 2 stargates and pure goons, maybe he should've dunno just switched to hydra off 4 bases? but oh well not like I was expecting a lot from Killer...
jaehoon's robo/gate at his nat is perhaps the worst two placed buildings I have seen in some time. Everything that sits there gets raped. Including 2 ht.
Is it a trend for zerg to sit on 3 base teching? Calm doesn't seem to be in a very comfortable position, being on equal bases just massis mutas and lurkers. Or is that my noobness?
On December 23 2010 21:52 nepeta wrote: Is it a trend for zerg to sit on 3 base teching? Calm doesn't seem to be in a very comfortable position, being on equal bases just massis mutas and lurkers. Or is that my noobness?
If he is going for a long game he will be happy to split the map except for a couple expos at the bottom, and will be able to starve P. Don't think he really has to do that here, but on the map with expos ringing the map, it is an option.
shuttle drops 2 templar and 1 reaver in his main to defend - calm backs off from dropping jaehoon's main but he does drop jaehoon's 4th, with lurkerling and swarm
On December 23 2010 21:52 nepeta wrote: Is it a trend for zerg to sit on 3 base teching? Calm doesn't seem to be in a very comfortable position, being on equal bases just massis mutas and lurkers. Or is that my noobness?
If he is going for a long game he will be happy to split the map except for a couple expos at the bottom, and will be able to starve P. Don't think he really has to do that here, but on the map with expos ringing the map, it is an option.
Thanks, always thought P was more cost-effective with units, so Z had to have more bases.
Calm walks in some lings and Jaehoon ggs, I keep getting confused by the gg timings. Everything seems to be more or less balanced out, then a quick jab here or there, someone ggs, and I'm puzzled :/
On December 23 2010 21:59 kamikami wrote: WTF ? Build only 1 type of unit (the cheapest) and win ? Why didn't Jaehoon just 1a2a3a into the Zerg's expo ?
Calm had a lot of lurkers in his chokes, plus very well built simcities preventing zealots from streaming in. A 1a2a would have just suicided his army.
On December 23 2010 21:59 kamikami wrote: WTF ? Build only 1 type of unit (the cheapest) and win ? Why didn't Jaehoon just 1a2a3a into the Zerg's expo ?
Calm had a lot of lurkers in his chokes, plus very well built simcities preventing zealots from streaming in. A 1a2a would have just suicided his army.
Yeah, but if he hadn't lost about 6 high temps needlessly, he might have been able to do something about the lurkers.
On December 23 2010 21:59 kamikami wrote: WTF ? Build only 1 type of unit (the cheapest) and win ? Why didn't Jaehoon just 1a2a3a into the Zerg's expo ?
Calm had a lot of lurkers in his chokes, plus very well built simcities preventing zealots from streaming in. A 1a2a would have just suicided his army.
Yeah, but if he hadn't lost about 6 high temps needlessly, he might have been able to do something about the lurkers.
If he had enough hts, he could have attacked, but Calm had so many freaking lings around the middle he would have just sandwiched Jaehoon. At best, Jaehoon would have taken out a lot of Calm's units for the price of his own, but he certainly wouldn't have taken down an expo. Calm would have replenished his army much quicker, and just 1a2a3a Jaehoon's undefended bases.
In the end, he didn't have enough hts or reavers to really defend against wave after wave of cracklings from Calm's 4 bases, should it have come to that.
Jaehoon never really harassed anything in that game. His army ran back and forth unable to engage, his DTs didn't achieve anything, and his sairs did very little after the scourge came out. He pretty much sat around, expoing slowly while Calm massed up his army.
Yeah!! Sick play from Hydra recently... And I thought the double drop was nice but not planned as a fake. Just saw the HT's and backed off, I think. But GG WP Calm.
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