Role on the Team STX Soul is known for being one of the deepest teams, with a large collection of players the competition would be right to covet. Until recently, Modesty was not part of that pantheon. Used almost exclusively as a ZvZ sniper, Modesty did not make to garner respect from the fans quickly. Because his matchup is considered by many to be a boring coin flip, he did not play the epic fan-pleasing games. This season has changed Modesty entirely though. While his ZvZ is still some of the best in the business, a whopping 58.5%, the change that came about a newfound ability when playing other matchups. In the past few STX matches, Modesty has only gone out to beat Baxter. It appears that he is being given lots of time for his individual league by the coaching staff. In a team so deep, and getting deeper, they have that luxury.
Current Form At this point, one cannot talk about Modesty without bringing up the seven-game win streak that he is sitting at the top of. With the streak almost entirely consisting of OSL games, Modesty is at the threshold of the round of 8. I think it goes without saying that this is a new high in his career. In fact, Modesty's performance in this OSL makes him look like an entirely reforged player that can't be counted out against any opponent. Modesty recently won his first 2 round of 16 games against Fantasy and Hydra, who are both in absolutely top form this season. With those names freshly tossed in his wake, I don't think anyone in the other booth can be truly confident.
A Step Forward While Fantasy cries map imbalance, and Hydra's defeat was in a rather scrappy game, these two wins reveal a level of long-term planning and strategic play that is new in Modesty. As a rookie, confidence is certainly an issue, and a solid showing at the STX Masters has to be a good way to transition into a new season. A victory over Best at the end of the last Proleague was instrumental for Modesty, who says that after that game he could get comfortable against Protoss. In his interview after making the round of 16, he boldly said that he was hoping to face good Protoss players.
With a jump in his practice time ushering in some OSL success, Modesty seems to be losing his rookie jitters and coming into his own. Calm and Hyvaa, the new acquisition from eSTRO, provide a wealth of experience and help for a budding Zerg. As Modesty casts off his bad tenancies and discovers some broader elegance, he has proven himself a whole new beast this season. Expect to see a lot more Modesty in the future.
Highlights
Tight play by Modesty against Best last season propelled him to his recent success. Game stars at about 6:35.
Patience and comfort beyond the first phase of the game are attributes that Modesty has only recently gained. This OSL game against Mind is a drawn-out brawl where Modesty keeps a cool head against biomech build he could not have seen coming.
Did you know...
...Modesty had some success in the 2008 Minor League season, winning 3 out of his 4 games? ...Modesty pulled a 3-kill against the Stars in the STX Masters this year? ...Modesty does a great Hydralisk impression?
Roro is the second zerg in the Proleague brick wall that is Wemade FOX, the team with arguably the best overall lineup the current Proleague. Similar to his fellow teammates Baby, Midas, Pure, and Shine, Roro has exhibit solid play ever since late 09, only dropping games against the best of them, such as Movie, Leta, Calm, Jaedong, Yellow[Arnc] (who?), Kal, Jangbi, and Bisu, and some other scrubs here and there, such as Frozean, and maintaining a solid 50% winrate up till this point, despite the less-than-stellar record at the beginning of his televised career.
And, oh, he destroys FPL.
What makes him such an FPL noobtrap is that, despite the fact that he loses early in single leagues and loses against high A-class players in Proleague, the fact is that he gets fielded often – ever since the start of his career he got to play a game, sometimes 2, in almost every week in the season – and while he may have lost to good players he was good enough to rout a lot of the active a-teamers, and even S-class players like Jaedong (back when JvZ still existed) when he feels like it. His win/loss streaks in the early half of his career also make for some lulzy trades.
Roro is currently a pretty solid player, losing to players better than him but beating just about anyone else – Movie, Horang2, Light, Midas, and FBH are some of the people he beat since the start of Shinhan 10-11. So far, he has dropped 7 games (9 if you count the 0-2 loss to Tempest in OSL offline qualifier), but 5 of those were against Jaedong, Bisu, and Flash, and 1 to ggaemo (who has exhibit extremely clutch play recently). He also managed to qualify for a spot in the MSL ro36 and even beat Midas in the Wildcard tourney, only to lose to Bisu again next round. If there is ever a good time to get him on your FPL, it is now.
Roro beat Effort in a 29 min ZvZ game after getting a bo disadvantage (9pool vs 12pool).
Storkuuu got Rorolluuuuu
Did you Know? •Statistically, he is strongest ZvT and weakest ZvP •He currently holds the second highest Elo in his team Shine holds the highest •He causes the most nerdrages in FPL •His first win against Jaedong is also the ONLY win he has over Jaedong – out of 8 games. •He is ahead of Stork 1-0
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STX vs WeMade, who will claim rank 3 in SPL?
STX and WeMade are schedule for the battle for 3rd place.
As of today, STX/WeMade/MBCGame are all tied in terms of the win-loss record at 8W7L, but the game +/- differentials have set them aside, putting WeMade at 3rd, STX at 4th, and MBCGame at 5th. Now, in the 4th week of R2, all three of those teams are scheduled to play. The battle for 3rd place could not be any more intense.
STX vs WeMade match is anticipated to be a fierce affair. The winner will claim 3rd place in the SPL ranks, but the loser could fall to 5th depending on the result of MBC vs OZ game. Since SKT (rank 1) and Hite (rank 2) have both surpassed the 10-win hurdle, other contending teams must keep winning in order to close the gap.
Both STX and WeMade have well-balanced and deep lineups, so it's tough to predict a clear winner out of this one. STX features a Protoss line of Kal-Shuttle, a Zerg line of Calm-Modesty-Hero, and Terran line of Bogus-Classic. WeMade has a Terran line of Baby-Midas-Mind, a Zerg line of Shine-Roro, and a Protoss line of Pure.
In this battle of well-balanced teams, the key factor to victory will be the entry battle of the coaches. The coach that is able to predict the opponent's entry and counter it with a sniping card will most likely be able to claim the precious match victory. Both coaches are experienced veterans around the league with their own know-how's, and it will be fun to watch how this mind battle unfolds.
Both teams have claimed to be the most well-balanced team in the league. Now is the time to decide which team is able to convert their strength into a victory.
On December 20 2010 11:57 Z3kk wrote: I thought STX had this in the bag D:
Is it really tipped in favor of wemade? ><
WeMade is looking strong as hell right now, but so is STX. Shine/Roro/Baby/Midas/Pure clashing with Kal/Classic/Bogus/Modesty/Calm is a pretty fearsome fight. I'll have to tip in favor of WeMade, if only because their power is more evenly spread out (i.e. Midas and Pure can probably stomp the crap out of Modesty and Calm)
On December 20 2010 11:57 Z3kk wrote: I thought STX had this in the bag D:
Is it really tipped in favor of wemade? ><
WeMade is looking strong as hell right now, but so is STX. Shine/Roro/Baby/Midas/Pure clashing with Kal/Classic/Bogus/Modesty/Calm is a pretty fearsome fight. I'll have to tip in favor of WeMade, if only because their power is more evenly spread out (i.e. Midas and Pure can probably stomp the crap out of Modesty and Calm)
I don't think Pure can stomp anyone right now
I still think WeMade is going to win though, Baby, Shine, and Roro are all good. It'll be close, though, and I hope I'm wrong.
On December 20 2010 11:57 Z3kk wrote: I thought STX had this in the bag D:
Is it really tipped in favor of wemade? ><
WeMade is looking strong as hell right now, but so is STX. Shine/Roro/Baby/Midas/Pure clashing with Kal/Classic/Bogus/Modesty/Calm is a pretty fearsome fight. I'll have to tip in favor of WeMade, if only because their power is more evenly spread out (i.e. Midas and Pure can probably stomp the crap out of Modesty and Calm)
Man, if you put it that way....my LB is either epic win or failure.
Shine/Roro/Baby/Midas sounds soooo much more solid than Kal/Classic/Bogus/Modesty/Calm. (though it's 4 really good players+1 not-so-good vs 1 really, really good player and 4 good players)
On December 20 2010 11:57 Z3kk wrote: I thought STX had this in the bag D:
Is it really tipped in favor of wemade? ><
WeMade is looking strong as hell right now, but so is STX. Shine/Roro/Baby/Midas/Pure clashing with Kal/Classic/Bogus/Modesty/Calm is a pretty fearsome fight. I'll have to tip in favor of WeMade, if only because their power is more evenly spread out (i.e. Midas and Pure can probably stomp the crap out of Modesty and Calm)
I don't think Pure can stomp anyone right now
I still think WeMade is going to win though, Baby, Shine, and Roro are all good. It'll be close, though, and I hope I'm wrong.
OK, I retract that, for some reason I thought Calm was like 1 for his last 10 or something. Although I'd still put more faith in Shine/Roro/Baby/Midas over Kal/Classic/Bogus/Modesty.
I want shine to lose but Fox to win since i want STX to lose in a 4-1 fashion
gogogo Wemade!
That's some bad hate vs. STX, man.
nah .. i just hate Kal .. :D
@o-ops
but i can clearly see that troll face being kal. lololol
But why do you hate Kal? Although I will admit, he doesn't have much charisma.
STX were cooler before Hwasin turned to the dark side.
idrk .. i just hate him .. he got this expression or this aura around him that i dont seem to like idk .. i dont hate any other STX player .. just him O.o
On December 20 2010 15:31 BrownBear wrote: LOL @ all the T1 fans coming in to hate on Shine.
wtf i think shine is awesome
So you like Shine and is a BIsu fan, wow that's a first.
I don't really understand it's such a rarity. Sure, Bisu is awesome, and sure, Shine knocked him out of OSL. But that's because Shine legitimately played better, and he deserves the credit for that even if I'm sad for Bisu. :/
On December 20 2010 17:58 Hyde wrote: Rooting for STX tonight. Nice banner too
agreed go stx smash em kal and classic Hopefully classic will ride the wave after smashing flash
It's really hard to predict Classic as he's totally unproven. His MSL showing was great though, and he's gotta really feel boosted. Maybe that's all it takes.
shuttle attacking baby's 4th but baby has some units there so he's forced to back off vessel emps some templar but dies to get it off shuttle's army being crushed, expect gg
Shuttle forces Baby to life and run his ccs from 4 but gets revenge by killing some transferring probes. Baby's army seems nonexistent now compared to Shuttle's army who definitely has more bases than Baby now
In fact it is 4 to 1 base if Baby does not have 12
Baby manages to snipe 10 with 2 vultures but shuttle is now moving his army and stasises a vessel while it was emping. Shuttle's army looks HUGE and unstoppable
Baby is about to lose his only mining base
Wow I had SHUTTLE GGS typed at one point but this is an amazing comeback
ahahaha nexus being built with a comsat XD baby expands to the 12 island and ferries some scvs there with a dropship if baby loses this hopefully he will have learned never to let up
On December 20 2010 18:44 Noxide wrote: Baby manages to snipe 10 with 2 vultures but shuttle is now moving his army and stasises a vessel while it was emping. Shuttle's army looks HUGE and unstoppable
Baby is about to lose his only mining base
Wow I had SHUTTLE GGS typed at one point but this is an amazing comeback
HAHA! Now Shuttle is stealing Baby's CC addons (Well at least it looks like that while the Nexus is warping in). I think we have a serious contender for comeback of the year here!
Baby takes 12 but if Shuttle takes 4 he will still be a base up and army size up already
Baby doing some nice probe sniping though and is trying to do guerrila warfare now, anything small to get back in the game. Nice emp but shuttle has 4 arbiters. Looking grim.
another probe massacre >__> baby drops 2 tanks at bottom right, a single goon is inside their firing range, kills 1 tank before they unsiege and deal with it shuttle with a probe at 6, I think he recalled it there?
What an insane comeback. I was waiting for Shuttle to gg for about 5 minuts. Then for 5 minuts I was like:'Ok, valiant effort from Shuttle, although a bit of wasted effort'. Then he just fucking wins.
seriously, i pretty much thought the game was over when baby destroy shuttle's main, along with his army.. baby was resting on more bases than shuttle..
On December 20 2010 18:49 29 fps wrote: i remember seeing yellow all over the map except a little purple in the corner. what happened?!
Apparently baby only had minefields and at 12 a non-cc building, so no mining base. Shuttle fled to 3 full bases at 789, so had a better econ. Baby should have pressured more after he took down the carriers perhaps?
Wow. Serious props to Shuttle for sticking it out and winning.
That game was constant action. It certainly wasn't excellently played, but those long epics rarely are.
EDIT: I think I'd chalk the battles in the middle up to Shuttle bringing in huge amounts of zealots while a lot of the vultures were out of position jockeying around the map to snipe templars. After Shuttle secured the natural at the bottom right he was way ahead in terms of controlled minerals. The battle outside that nat was really close.
This comeback wasn't THAT epic. Shuttle had a large bank anyway and with that many gateways, any protoss could have pumped out a lot of units. After that, Baby just got caught out of position several times or he didn't really care, i dont know :S Looks like Baby didn't do anything after taking down those 3 expos.
I honest to god do not know where all these units where coming from....they were streaming in like from a parallel universe where shuttle had already taken the whole map
I thought Baby had mining bases from the whole right side once he stormed Shuttle's main, but maybe not. And maybe Shuttle had a ton of minerals and gas stored up because he was able to reestablish a huge base at 7 in no time, then pump zealots for the next five minutes. Baby was slow to transition to vulture from goliaths and never got a good army going after a few huge battles that wiped him out.
Baby definitely got cocky and instead of using his full map control and taking over the map he tried to kill off Shuttle with what he had, underestimated Shuttle's macro/micro and lost all his troops there to storms plus the 4 mine daebak.
After that Shuttle got back decent bit of map control and got 3 bases easy and the macro kicked in.
UPS logo was blocking the corner of the minimap so I though for about 20 min "why is shuttle even here? just gg already" and then " WTF WHERE DID THAT ARMY COME FROM! Ahh, he cant win anyway" and then he just won. I don't think I could pick a point where Shuddle went from losing to winning, but I will say that I think his comeback was dependent on the storm+ minedrag on 4 tanks
Shuttle evened that game by some really great storms (great because baby clumped his tanks...) while his last carriers were dying. He started getting ahead when he secured 3 fresh expansions while Baby was mining out, and great macro won the game from there.
On December 20 2010 18:56 Megaliskuu wrote: omg dat mine that got 4 tanks TT
I was thinking the same thing...even if it sounds cheesy, retrospectively that could've been the gamedeciding turning point. If those 4 tanks had proceeded to happily shoot at the nexus, then I think shuttle wouldn't have been able to re-macro his huge army that quickly.
On December 20 2010 18:56 darktreb wrote: Times like this I wish Idra was still alive, err, still played BW, so he could deliver some amazing line about Protoss.
I just say PROTOSS repeatedly, much like the "ESPORTS" meme
On December 20 2010 19:07 Vanka wrote: why would you waste your lead like that, when you've got cross positions and got to 3hatch before pool unpunished?
I'm more confused by why the WeMade coach would send out a B-teamer like hero if he is going to play cheesy. Builds a bad reputation for a starting player, especially if he loses with it. Seeing as he didn't get a STX scrub, the chances of that succeeding weren't too likely.
zerg taking the top right nat as his 4th attack on zerg's nat, not prepared for it and gonna lose his nat meanwhile 5 lurkers and a defiler are attacking terran's nat zerg main gonna go down 1 mistake from zerg and the game is basically over
On December 20 2010 19:23 infinitestory wrote: Battle of the people who used to be good at some point and then started sucking hard for extended periods of time!
Very apt description, although Calm is doing slightly better than mind atm.
On December 20 2010 19:23 infinitestory wrote: Battle of the people who used to be good at some point and then started sucking hard for extended periods of time!
Very apt description, although Calm is doing slightly better than mind atm.
exactly what i thought +the era when calm was s class is closer than the era mind was which seems like eons ago !
On December 20 2010 19:25 Geographer wrote: Scrolling through this thread, I don't see many Wemade Fox fans. Why isn't it as popular a team as STX or SKT1?
STX isn't popular at all. I see lots of STX hate all the time. SKT1 is popular, because it has a long legacy. And because people are disproportionately fond of Bisu.
On December 20 2010 19:25 Geographer wrote: Scrolling through this thread, I don't see many Wemade Fox fans. Why isn't it as popular a team as STX or SKT1?
skt1: bisu, best, fantasy, a storied history of greats wemade: ...nada
On December 20 2010 19:25 Geographer wrote: Scrolling through this thread, I don't see many Wemade Fox fans. Why isn't it as popular a team as STX or SKT1?
STX isn't popular at all. I see lots of STX hate all the time. SKT1 is popular, because it has a long legacy. And because people are disproportionately fond of Bisu.
STX doesn't have that good a relationship with its fans, even in Korea. I think they should try to reach out to fans more.
On December 20 2010 19:25 Geographer wrote: Scrolling through this thread, I don't see many Wemade Fox fans. Why isn't it as popular a team as STX or SKT1?
STX isn't popular at all. I see lots of STX hate all the time. SKT1 is popular, because it has a long legacy. And because people are disproportionately fond of Bisu.
On December 20 2010 19:25 Geographer wrote: Scrolling through this thread, I don't see many Wemade Fox fans. Why isn't it as popular a team as STX or SKT1?
STX isn't popular at all. I see lots of STX hate all the time. SKT1 is popular, because it has a long legacy. And because people are disproportionately fond of Bisu.
STX doesn't have that good a relationship with its fans, even in Korea. I think they should try to reach out to fans more.
Am I incorrect in thinking they don't interact with other teams all that often either? It's weird that noone ever mentions practising with them in interviews.
On December 20 2010 19:25 Geographer wrote: Scrolling through this thread, I don't see many Wemade Fox fans. Why isn't it as popular a team as STX or SKT1?
STX isn't popular at all. I see lots of STX hate all the time. SKT1 is popular, because it has a long legacy. And because people are disproportionately fond of Bisu.
On December 20 2010 19:25 Geographer wrote: Scrolling through this thread, I don't see many Wemade Fox fans. Why isn't it as popular a team as STX or SKT1?
On December 20 2010 19:28 Megaliskuu wrote: What was the point of that? 2 scv's on the ramp stop it cold and mind can still expand with the cc on the high ground..
All I can think of is that 12pool muta rush that Zero used against Flaash which hits before range for marines kicks in. edit: but it is fast lurker fml
On December 20 2010 19:25 Geographer wrote: Scrolling through this thread, I don't see many Wemade Fox fans. Why isn't it as popular a team as STX or SKT1?
On December 20 2010 19:25 Geographer wrote: Scrolling through this thread, I don't see many Wemade Fox fans. Why isn't it as popular a team as STX or SKT1?
STX isn't popular at all. I see lots of STX hate all the time. SKT1 is popular, because it has a long legacy. And because people are disproportionately fond of Bisu.
STX doesn't have that good a relationship with its fans, even in Korea. I think they should try to reach out to fans more.
Am I incorrect in thinking they don't interact with other teams all that often either? It's weird that noone ever mentions practising with them in interviews.
Maybe, although it's hard to tell if it's just the individual players not wanting to mix with other teams or team policy not to provide practice partners for other teams.
To me it looks like he scanned and didn't see a spire... and then he just assumed that nothing was coming from Calm instead of building bunkers for the (pretty much) telegraphed lurker attack... FAIL.
On December 20 2010 19:32 radialis wrote: FUCK YES CALM
but honest question - why are terrans all sucking vs lurker rushes all of a sudden? jesus christ
Because 1-1-1 is hard countered by fast lurkers. Even if you pump marines constantly from 1 rax, you have slightly more marines than he has lurkers. And there are lings as well.
random shine zergling picks off another drone 3 more lings gonna kill some more drones before her's sunken can finish shine losing the muta battle but it won't matter; he can just outproduce hero
On December 20 2010 19:49 ArvickHero wrote: Hero has 500 apm? pft..
Hero always has super high APM, yet it always seems like he has extremely low. Contsantly failing to perform the most important tasks. He must be really bad at actually being effective with it.
I don't know if people can see this through all the hate, but Shine has pretty impeccable muta micro. I would even say it is comparable to even JD's, as Shine (so far) rarely ever misses a shot while solidly avoiding the scourge. That ZvZ streak isnt a fluke...
On December 20 2010 19:55 rainei wrote: I don't know if people can see this through all the hate, but Shine has pretty impeccable muta micro. I would even say it is comparable to even JD's, as Shine (so far) rarely ever misses a shot while solidly avoiding the scourge. That ZvZ streak isnt a fluke...
Ya, the match-up seems quite perfect for him. All about micro and everything is pretty much an all-in (there are generally no plans to get 3+ base macro modes like the other MU's).
T.O.P showed up for MBC vs Oz, so I think I'm going to head to bed after STX vs WMF is done; I have to get up early in the morning, so I gotta I won't be switching over after this, sorry.
On December 20 2010 19:49 ArvickHero wrote: Hero has 500 apm? pft..
Hero always has super high APM, yet it always seems like he has extremely low. Contsantly failing to perform the most important tasks. He must be really bad at actually being effective with it.
I always imagine him panicking and switching between different locations on map with extreme speed without doing anything. oh god oh god oh god Im losing there there and there makes me warm and fuzzy inside (especially when he played Jaedong in semis when people said his APM might bring him victory over Destroyer)
On December 20 2010 19:58 Grobyc wrote: T.O.P showed up for MBC vs Oz, so I think I'm going to head to bed after STX vs WMF is done; I have to get up early in the morning, so I gotta I won't be switching over after this, sorry.
On December 20 2010 19:58 Grobyc wrote: T.O.P showed up for MBC vs Oz, so I think I'm going to head to bed after STX vs WMF is done; I have to get up early in the morning, so I gotta I won't be switching over after this, sorry.
On December 20 2010 19:49 ArvickHero wrote: Hero has 500 apm? pft..
Hero always has super high APM, yet it always seems like he has extremely low. Contsantly failing to perform the most important tasks. He must be really bad at actually being effective with it.
I always imagine him panicking and switching between different locations on map with extreme speed without doing anything. oh god oh god oh god Im losing there there and there makes me warm and fuzzy inside (especially when he played Jaedong in semis when people said his APM might bring him victory over Destroyer)
That describes my SC-playing pretty well. I always try to do all things at once and end up doing nothing properly. XD
On December 20 2010 19:55 rainei wrote: I don't know if people can see this through all the hate, but Shine has pretty impeccable muta micro. I would even say it is comparable to even JD's, as Shine (so far) rarely ever misses a shot while solidly avoiding the scourge. That ZvZ streak isnt a fluke...
On December 20 2010 19:55 rainei wrote: I don't know if people can see this through all the hate, but Shine has pretty impeccable muta micro. I would even say it is comparable to even JD's, as Shine (so far) rarely ever misses a shot while solidly avoiding the scourge. That ZvZ streak isnt a fluke...
On December 20 2010 20:10 Scaramanga wrote: How did frozean open up?
2 port, late addon.
Shouldnt the wraiths get there long before the valk is out, and shouldnt frozean be able to split apart his wraiths to easily kill the first valk? I dont understand why these valk builds are so effective, valks are so flimsy and hard to keep alive with low numbers 3-4 wraiths should be able to take down 1 valk, but i didnt see the game so im just speculating
On December 20 2010 20:10 Scaramanga wrote: How did frozean open up?
2 port, late addon.
Shouldnt the wraiths get there long before the valk is out, and shouldnt frozean be able to split apart his wraiths to easily kill the first valk? I dont understand why these valk builds are so effective, valks are so flimsy and hard to keep alive with low numbers 3-4 wraiths should be able to take down 1 valk, but i didnt see the game so im just speculating
There wasn't a valk yet. Midas had 1 port, but a faster addon. Got his 1 wraith out with cloak when Frozean had 3-4 without. The 1 wraith killed off like 3 wraiths before Frozean's cloaking finished, and he was way behind after that (no expo), even after Frozean's wraiths killed off those scvs and marines.
On December 20 2010 19:55 rainei wrote: I don't know if people can see this through all the hate, but Shine has pretty impeccable muta micro. I would even say it is comparable to even JD's, as Shine (so far) rarely ever misses a shot while solidly avoiding the scourge. That ZvZ streak isnt a fluke...
Shine is good, but the greatest zvz streak ever was a fluke.
I wouldn't underestimate Hydra myself, as I think he has quite a potent ZvZ as well, but you have a point. Well according to TLPD, Shine has a 69.9% ZvZ record, so even if luck played a role in his streak, his zvz prowess is undeniable I think.
On December 20 2010 20:15 Grobyc wrote: Well Frozen ran around Midas' base going pew pew for a while. Did he not notice Midas' control tower flashing... ?
Once Midas' cloak finished Frozen was just like "derp..."
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he missed that. His game just ended there and he flipped out. Split his wraiths slowly, brought them back in with no scan, not scrambling air defense...
That was really smart for Kal to cheese. If he had lost, he could just go to the ace match and do something else. It's a good bet that Kal will win a game before Fox beats him twice. Then again, maybe they'd just send Modesty for the ace snipe. Who knows. Good time to cheese when you're the best player on the team and you're up a game.
On December 20 2010 20:10 Scaramanga wrote: How did frozean open up?
2 port, late addon.
Shouldnt the wraiths get there long before the valk is out, and shouldnt frozean be able to split apart his wraiths to easily kill the first valk? I dont understand why these valk builds are so effective, valks are so flimsy and hard to keep alive with low numbers 3-4 wraiths should be able to take down 1 valk, but i didnt see the game so im just speculating
There wasn't a valk yet. Midas had 1 port, but a faster addon. Got his 1 wraith out with cloak when Frozean had 3-4 without. The 1 wraith killed off like 3 wraiths before Frozean's cloaking finished, and he was way behind after that (no expo), even after Frozean's wraiths killed off those scvs and marines.
Ahk yeah i was wondering why the game turned out that way from the opening builds thanks for recap
That game was so fucking weird. XD If someone had shown me that in replay form and said ''This is Kal vs Roro'' I would've said ''Nononono, that can't be progamers. They would not play like that''.
On December 20 2010 20:43 Holgerius wrote: That game was so fucking weird. XD If someone had shown me that in replay form and said ''This is Kal vs Roro'' I would've said ''Nononono, that can't be progamers. They would not play like that''.
I dunno man, Roro's reactions to everything seemed pretty spot on. but that's probably attributable to the fact I freeze up and only make lings and a-move when zealots appear in my base lol.
On December 20 2010 20:43 Holgerius wrote: That game was so fucking weird. XD If someone had shown me that in replay form and said ''This is Kal vs Roro'' I would've said ''Nononono, that can't be progamers. They would not play like that''.
I dunno man, Roro's reactions to everything seemed pretty spot on. but that's probably attributable to the fact I freeze up and only make lings and a-move when zealots appear in my base lol.
Yaya, I mean they didn't play badly. It was just the choice of strategy and how the game panned out. 1 Base for both players in a ZvP that far into the game... XD
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Shuttle < Empire of the Sun > 
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And also, thanks for creating one.
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