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On December 05 2010 16:04 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 16:01 Slow Motion wrote:On December 05 2010 15:57 GTR wrote:Poll: action cursed by ktf curse?yes (29) 76% no (9) 24% 38 total votes Your vote: action cursed by ktf curse? (Vote): yes
(Vote): no
Not at all. Action was always overrated and there is no way his muta micro even comes close to Shine's. There is nothing in the universe that could have made him win this game. I love it. Action was so good last season, and now that he's slumping for 1.5 rounds people say "he was never good." Did you watch his game against Flash (or anyone else for that matter)? Action was one of the best late game zergs. I'm willing to bet practicing with Flash murdered his confidence.
Usually when a player is out of form, it shows in the form of bad decision making, but in that game against Shine, decision making wasn't the main problem. His mechanics were just plain mediocre. Even when Bisu fails, you can still see that he's extremely skilled. That hasn't been the case with Action.
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Action was only hyped last year for that game against Flash, which was only because he managed to go Hive.
Action is like, D+ before Hive, A- once he hits hive and gets consume tech on 3+ bases.
but yeah action vs shine should be a lot higher than 2 stars though >
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On December 05 2010 16:12 Milkis wrote:but yeah action vs shine should be a lot higher than 2 stars though >
Meh, it was a completely unremarkable mirror-build ZvZ where one player won by being slightly better than the other...
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On December 05 2010 16:11 DarkMatter_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 16:04 infinitestory wrote:On December 05 2010 16:01 Slow Motion wrote:On December 05 2010 15:57 GTR wrote:Poll: action cursed by ktf curse?yes (29) 76% no (9) 24% 38 total votes Your vote: action cursed by ktf curse? (Vote): yes
(Vote): no
Not at all. Action was always overrated and there is no way his muta micro even comes close to Shine's. There is nothing in the universe that could have made him win this game. I love it. Action was so good last season, and now that he's slumping for 1.5 rounds people say "he was never good." Did you watch his game against Flash (or anyone else for that matter)? Action was one of the best late game zergs. I'm willing to bet practicing with Flash murdered his confidence. Usually when a player is out of form, it shows in the form of bad decision making, but in that game against Shine, decision making wasn't the main problem. His mechanics were just plain mediocre. Even when Bisu fails, you can still see that he's extremely skilled. That hasn't been the case with Action.
In all honesty, he has both problems. If his game against Brave wasn't bad decision making then I don't know what is.
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Oh how the mighty have fallen...
Poor Flash should just join ACE asap, then ACE can win this proleague lolol
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I blame Violet and Forgg
They should've played better. Action had no chance against Shine in the first place
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Glad that Stats and Flash won, but Forgg and Violet really needs to get things back together
I have no hope for Action. I think Roo should play more for the experience
MANTOSS AND THE RETURN OF STORM ZERG.
and wow, I'm actually used to KT losing
*sigh* random fan ramble
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any1 know where i can find a vod of g1?
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On December 05 2010 16:42 Pibacc wrote:
any1 know where i can find a vod of g1?
TL tracker or wait for the youtube uploads
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On December 05 2010 16:10 GenesisX wrote:
Violet failing + ForGG failing = fail FPL.
Having Violet + having ForGG = fail FPL
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
ACTION WHY U LET ME DOWN ALL THE TIME TT
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Came to this thread for disappointment and indeed I got it. When I opened up the lineups spoiler i was sure what the results are. And sorry to say that alffla, but the answer is because he sucks. Probably half of my few posts have a rant about that guy and i bet I won't regret them in the future.
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KTFlash .. a sight for sore eyes ..
WMF HWAITING!
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-_- Come on, Action is one of the smartest zerg players around, and one of the few that can do something against terran. Sure he's got his weaknesses but what's happening right now is a slump, which is everything but surprising, given that he's switched teams recently and is now in a team that has a hard time making zergs work. Losing a zvz against, of all people, Shine, is in no way any reason to come down on Action's talent.
Shine is one of the strongest zergs around, especially in zvz. There really are few zergs that can go toe-to-toe with him in that matchup and obviously, Action is not one of them. However, if you'd compare Shine's zvt with Action's zvt you'd see that not everything is as simple as it seems. So come on, give Action a chance to prove himself and refrain from insulting everyone's intelligence. Thank you.
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On December 05 2010 22:03 MisteR wrote:
-_- Come on, Action is one of the smartest zerg players around, and one of the few that can do something against terran. Sure he's got his weaknesses but what's happening right now is a slump, which is everything but surprising, given that he's switched teams recently and is now in a team that has a hard time making zergs work. Losing a zvz against, of all people, Shine, is in no way any reason to come down on Action's talent.
Shine is one of the strongest zergs around, especially in zvz. There really are few zergs that can go toe-to-toe with him in that matchup and obviously, Action is not one of them. However, if you'd compare Shine's zvt with Action's zvt you'd see that not everything is as simple as it seems. So come on, give Action a chance to prove himself and refrain from insulting everyone's intelligence. Thank you.
Agree allow mafia zerg some breather he will break his slump and squash all who dares challenge him ^^.
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I really wanted to see Action take that game to push it to ace, but alas it was the same result as always...KT wins one non-Flash game and gets rolled 4-2.
In other news, I really need to get Shine off my anti-team =/
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
Flash has imba skill points in all characteristics. Now he not only sushiy macro terran, but also sushiy micro terran, and sushiy multitask-terran and sushiy timing terran. 
I have only hope for Jaedong not to fall too behind him, about any other players i don't know, they seem to be too far behind. Jaedong can still reach him, when Flash worked on his micro (supposedly weaker characteristic), JD should get further in game sense and precision. He always won with aggression and micro and made his opponents make mistakes, but now it doesn't seems to surprise anyone.
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On December 05 2010 16:12 Milkis wrote:Action was only hyped last year for that game against Flash, which was only because he managed to go Hive. Action is like, D+ before Hive, A- once he hits hive and gets consume tech on 3+ bases. but yeah action vs shine should be a lot higher than 2 stars though >
I thought he was also hyped for that game against mind where which was like, game of the season... =/ But yeah, Action needs better early->mid game. I wanna see his lategame more often, which unfortunately is like a 1/50 games chance. =(
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
Action seems smart but his skill is way too one-sided as for now. =\ IMHO. On the example of Flash we can see that one-sided players don't stand much chance now. You need to be good in everything. It's kind of a pity that Zerg race gives a temptation not to put too much insight in macro and late-game endurance, but instead OMG ZERG RUSH KEKEKEKEEEEKEKEKEKEEE and just do pure aggression. Yes, Zerg is the best race at aggressive play, but to win really tough games and stand a chance against any level players especcially the Terran, you need to be skilled in "difficult" and long games too, need to count the balance and make right decisions. I hope one day we'll see such a zerg grossmeister-play.
LOL, maybe Action needs to switch race, if he's so bad early game? =\ Both two other races have safer early game than zerg :D
Are the players allowed to ever switch race, I wonder?
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On December 06 2010 01:59 _Quasar_ wrote:Are the players allowed to ever switch race, I wonder?
Grr played multiple races without a problem.
But the effort it would take to do it is just not worth the benefits.
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