On December 01 2010 16:34 kassi wrote: Man that shuttle micro was sick. I just wish Bisu had waited a bit longer and got a few more dragoons from his 3gate before attacking. Seriously loving PL these days.
He couldn't wait any longer. Kal had 3 gates as well towards the end, plus continuously pumping reavers. This was the 'right' timing to try and take that gamble, but Kal's position and micro were too good.
On December 01 2010 16:33 kawatan wrote: bisu 12-1 jd 12-3 flash 12-1 stork um...
SHADDAP QQ
Very inopportune time for bisu to end his winning streak...
The sad thing is, that game of Stork against Violet yesterday was worse than anything that Bisu has failed at in the last few months. Even all those fail plays against Kal, the archons PvT, and even that series against Shine.
Not to rub anything in, but how many "Bisu got raped" comments do you see from people wearing the STX logo? Please take note, fans of all teams, there's something to learn here. And don't disappoint me, STX fans.
On December 01 2010 16:33 Milkis wrote: you can say that for so many series
why are you skt fans so concerned only with results and not the players/teams lol
you guys are disgusting
People disappointed at someone for losing their team a won series is disgusting?
That's so wrong.
No one can deny Sun is extremely promising. But ignoring the fact that he made a critical mistake just out of 'player respect' or whatever would just be utterly stupid.
edit oh and btw no, losing a 99% won game that also happens to be decisive does not happen 'all the time' at all
You can be disappointed but blaming it on Sun is kinda dumb.
You don't have to ignore the critical mistake, although i don't think it was that critical at all -- he lost because he didnt have observers in the right places when the arbiter showed up, he played it rather safely before then.
Saying "Sun" lost it is rather stupid when SKT still had a chance after that didn't go well cause Kal outplayed Bisu this time.
The point is "Player X lost it for the team" blah blah remarks are extremely dumb because so many series are decided on critical mistakes -- it's almost as if you don't care if the game was good, especially when the remark sounded a lot more dumb cause it sounded a lot more result oriented and sounded like it had some weird tendency to avoid blaming Bisu for some reason when he's the one who lost the Ace match.
Face it, you're cheering for the best performing team, cut them a bit of slack, jesus christ.
On December 01 2010 16:42 mustaju wrote: Not to rub anything in, but how many "Bisu got raped" comments do you see from people wearing the STX logo? Please take note, fans of all teams, there's something to learn here. And don't disappoint me, STX fans.
TBH I'm mostly expecting KT fans to hop in here going "hell yes SKT lost and KT won, best week of PL ever" or something, you STX guys are pretty benign
On December 01 2010 16:44 kamikami wrote: Bisu failed to anticipate his opponent's style and lose stupidly again :
Against Shine : He should have turtled up and wait for late game when Shine will hyuk himself. Against Kal : Just defend and wait for Kal to choke.
Doing mass goon push is no way in hell a good practice against early game aggressive players like Shine and Kal.
It was actually nicely played by Bisu, i have no idea what your'e talking about.
At that point Bisu was just trying to bait the shuttle/reaver out (notice bisu's goon placement the entire game) because that was literally the only chance he had of winning the game at that point. The final push was rather futile and a really risky gamble, so he was moving his troops around to try and bait the shuttle out. It was literally only thing Bisu could do at that point -- "wait", bait and hope that Kal falls for it. Kal played conservatively and made some pretty damn good decisions. After the 3 gate push was defended (all to Kal's credit), that's the only chance Bisu had.
On December 01 2010 16:46 cascades wrote: Nah Kal no longer chokes against Bisu. He used to, but he doesn't now. Most telling indicator of Bisu's non S-class status.
That's unfair to Kal. He's really good, and he has the ability to take a game off anyone. He might choke, but that's not because his opponents are S class, that's because he gambles a lot. I think not even JD and Flash can think of Kal as a pushover.
On December 01 2010 16:33 Milkis wrote: you can say that for so many series
why are you skt fans so concerned only with results and not the players/teams lol
you guys are disgusting
People disappointed at someone for losing their team a won series is disgusting?
That's so wrong.
No one can deny Sun is extremely promising. But ignoring the fact that he made a critical mistake just out of 'player respect' or whatever would just be utterly stupid.
edit oh and btw no, losing a 99% won game that also happens to be decisive does not happen 'all the time' at all
You can be disappointed but blaming it on Sun is kinda dumb.
You don't have to ignore the critical mistake, although i don't think it was that critical at all -- he lost because he didnt have observers in the right places when the arbiter showed up, he played it rather safely before then.
Saying "Sun" lost it is rather stupid when SKT still had a chance after that didn't go well cause Kal outplayed Bisu this time.
The point is "Player X lost it for the team" blah blah remarks are extremely dumb because so many series are decided on critical mistakes -- it's almost as if you don't care if the game was good, especially when the remark sounded a lot more dumb result oriented and sounded like it had some weird tendency to avoid blaming Bisu for some reason when he's the one who lost the Ace match.
Bisu is not to be blamed Milkis you do not blame beautiful people for anything that's the rule of the universe. And on a side note he did stupid all-in and failed so there is just nothing to blame. You don't know what would have happened if he had played standard.
On December 01 2010 16:46 cascades wrote: Nah Kal no longer chokes against Bisu. He used to, but he doesn't now. Most telling indicator of Bisu's non S-class status.
It's probably the fact that he won like 6 games off him. If Bisu wins a series or 2 off Kal it'll probably be better. Also, why does Bisu keep trying all-ins when he hasn't even succeeded once?
On December 01 2010 16:49 mustaju wrote:I think not even JD and Flash can think of Kal as a pushover.
He sure does have a ridiculously horrible record against both of them. He really just demonstrates how good he can be, and then falls just short of that. As sad as it is, I have to admit that right now Bisu is the same, except with more fans.
On December 01 2010 16:46 cascades wrote: Nah Kal no longer chokes against Bisu. He used to, but he doesn't now. Most telling indicator of Bisu's non S-class status.
Remember, we can't give all the credit to Kal for winning. Shuttle made an ENORMOUS comeback despite the odds, and Calm straight up outplayed Best. Canata is Canata, so blame him too.
But aww yeah, STX and Oz win in the same night. fuck yeah.
On December 01 2010 16:50 Ryusei-R1 wrote: Remember, we can't give all the credit to Kal for winning. Shuttle made an ENORMOUS comeback despite the odds, and Calm straight up outplayed Best. Canata is Canata, so blame him too.
But aww yeah, STX and Oz win in the same night. fuck yeah.
EPT
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