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On December 01 2010 01:59 Holgerius wrote:Lol, just reading through the LR, and I see stuff like this: Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 20:57 _Quasar_ wrote:
but turns economy is so much better... no matter how "sushiy" and "macro" flash is... he's too behind. :D I don't get why people are suprised when Flash comes back from impossible situations (especially in TvT) anymore. ^__^
If Flash was in similar situation himself, he would realise that the only thing opponent can do is to harass, and would defend of that harass... or make a counter-harass. =\ Why Turn, with his 3 base, didn't make some fucking vultures himself, and didn't drop them somewhere? I don't get it. I think it has more to do with the magic of name that Flash has, than with anything else. 
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can kiss goodbye to my FPL. My anti-team just got raped hard today.
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Such silly mistakes that gave KT the victory. Storks decision to go 2 reavers instead of a shuttle, and then suiciding it. Followed by Jangbi losing two high templars to a scarab in a crucial moment. And we have an ace match. Also, Juni hesitated far too much. He could've easily taken out Flash's Natural and pushed a bit into the main. Guess he got starstruck. KT looking far from solid.
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On December 01 2010 03:24 _Quasar_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 01:59 Holgerius wrote:Lol, just reading through the LR, and I see stuff like this: On November 30 2010 20:57 _Quasar_ wrote:
but turns economy is so much better... no matter how "sushiy" and "macro" flash is... he's too behind. :D I don't get why people are suprised when Flash comes back from impossible situations (especially in TvT) anymore. ^__^ If Flash was in similar situation himself, he would realise that the only thing opponent can do is to harass, and would defend of that harass... or make a counter-harass. =\ Why Turn, with his 3 base, didn't make some fucking vultures himself, and didn't drop them somewhere? I don't get it. I think it has more to do with the magic of name that Flash has, than with anything else.
Or it's because Flash has simply better decisionmaking than anyone else in the world, period?
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Wow, both KT and Flash's ace losing streaks end on the same day, in a dramatic manner.
Wonder if their increased confidence will carry over to continued results?
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Jangbi continues to disappoint as usual, Stork is too lazy, and my favourite Turn loses! What a bad day for Samsung, but then what isn't? =P Come on, get back up and start winning things. Flash, I 'hate' you! =3
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On December 01 2010 03:44 Emon_ wrote:
Such silly mistakes that gave KT the victory. Storks decision to go 2 reavers instead of a shuttle, and then suiciding it. Followed by Jangbi losing two high templars to a scarab in a crucial moment. And we have an ace match. Also, Juni hesitated far too much. He could've easily taken out Flash's Natural and pushed a bit into the main. Guess he got starstruck. KT looking far from solid.
Juni was not breaking that natural with 30 marines and 2 bunkers. He would've traded armies and then been 2 base vs 2base terran. Containing and expanding was his best shot.
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Agreed. He should've gone 3 base - defilers - 4 base. And all bases probably needed to be gas bases. He made something unexplainable. =_= I'd like to see same strategy but in hands of someone like Jaedong or lets say, Soulkey.
Or it's because Flash has simply better decisionmaking than anyone else in the world, period?
Maybe. But there he needed not only decisionmaking but serious mistakes by his opponent. If TurN didn't make mistakes it would be much like BeSt vs Flash. There, no decisionmaking helped, as you remember.
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I'd not agree that Stork lost the game - he is S-class player, and they must be able not only to macro but to cheese, so cheese from him is normal :D But Jangbi's mistakes seem worse to me. He had total advantage in economy, and lost to last stand all-in attack. T_T
But at least we see him playing generally well, not like faceless something he used to be in the previous matches.
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On December 01 2010 04:47 _Quasar_ wrote:Agreed. He should've gone 3 base - defilers - 4 base. And all bases probably needed to be gas bases. He made something unexplainable. =_= I'd like to see same strategy but in hands of someone like Jaedong or lets say, Soulkey. Show nested quote +Or it's because Flash has simply better decisionmaking than anyone else in the world, period? Maybe. But there he needed not only decisionmaking but serious mistakes by his opponent. If TurN didn't make mistakes it would be much like BeSt vs Flash. There, no decisionmaking helped, as you remember.
There you go, you said it yourself. It takes mistakes by his opponent, and mistakes = bad decisionmaking doesn't it? Overall Flash almost always makes better decisions throughout the game than his opponent does. Sometimes he fucks up once or twice in the beginning (and mistakes in the beginning of a game always makes more impact than it does later on) but makes up for it by making more correct decisions than his opponent in the following 100 situations that arises.
It's just silly how often people try to downplay Flash's brilliance.
Also, that game was just such a slap in the face to people who say ''Hurr, Flash can only turtle, durr''. :D Great harassment. ^__^
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Turn played his heart out but Flash is just too ridiculous.
Those comebacks against Fantasy and his one against FBH makes me never assume he is dead in a TvT. He's not human.
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I'm going put that on repeat next time I play SC for inspiration. ^__^
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On December 01 2010 00:09 Crt wrote:
contrary to what players say,
people don't win because they think they can win.
they win because they have the skill to win.
the idea of the mental game is all ludicrous.
You couldn't be more wrong.
Look at savior and his games vs. Bisu and FBH. He was capable of beating pretty much any P and T (before he fully slumped), yet he was constantly choking against those two players and looked like a D- scrub.
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On December 01 2010 08:26 maybenexttime wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 00:09 Crt wrote:
contrary to what players say,
people don't win because they think they can win.
they win because they have the skill to win.
the idea of the mental game is all ludicrous.
You couldn't be more wrong. Look at savior and his games vs. Bisu and FBH. He was capable of beating pretty much any P and T (before he fully slumped), yet he was constantly choking against those two players and looked like a D- scrub.
Are you sure he wasn't throwing the games for $$$? 
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On December 01 2010 08:33 RowdierBob wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 08:26 maybenexttime wrote:On December 01 2010 00:09 Crt wrote:
contrary to what players say,
people don't win because they think they can win.
they win because they have the skill to win.
the idea of the mental game is all ludicrous.
You couldn't be more wrong. Look at savior and his games vs. Bisu and FBH. He was capable of beating pretty much any P and T (before he fully slumped), yet he was constantly choking against those two players and looked like a D- scrub. Are you sure he wasn't throwing the games for $$$?
Probably some, but all of them? ;/
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Well this is what happens when you send TurN instead of Reality-next-bonjwa.
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Damn I shouldnt have watched this. The VODs were even generously uploaded so fast into moktira's channel (thanks to him by the way) only to carry a great disappointment.
It sucks that Stork had to lose the first shuttle. I could see absolutely no reason why he had to do a backdoor with that only to get it sniped, when he could have used it to reinforce his goons in the front. Had he waited for reinforcements, he could have easily overpowered Violet's few goons and earn the 4-0 win. Really really bad decision there.
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