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On December 01 2010 12:42 koreasilver wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 04:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:On December 01 2010 03:44 Emon_ wrote:
Such silly mistakes that gave KT the victory. Storks decision to go 2 reavers instead of a shuttle, and then suiciding it. Followed by Jangbi losing two high templars to a scarab in a crucial moment. And we have an ace match. Also, Juni hesitated far too much. He could've easily taken out Flash's Natural and pushed a bit into the main. Guess he got starstruck. KT looking far from solid. Juni was not breaking that natural with 30 marines and 2 bunkers. He would've traded armies and then been 2 base vs 2base terran. Containing and expanding was his best shot. His build was sort of an all-in build though and he certainly was playing it out like one. If he really pressed in without hesitating I think he would have been able to take Flash's nat out. He would have gotten in there when there was only one bunker and he had +1 at the time. Oh well.
I don't agree I just cant see Flash losing the Nat to that force. What I think Juni's biggest mistake was after that he didn't put a Lurker on the ramp at his 4th to repel the 5 rines+1 medic which took it down. One fewer lurker wouldn't have made a difference in the middle but would have kept that 4th alive until he could get the nydus up.
That said it wouldn't have put Juni in a great position, he would've locked himself into a macro game against Flash.
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Wtf stork, stop playing cellphone games during your proleague matches.
I guess I am glad stork lost because then that epic ace match happened. When is KeSPA going to ban maphacks again?
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On December 02 2010 21:07 revy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 12:42 koreasilver wrote:On December 01 2010 04:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:On December 01 2010 03:44 Emon_ wrote:
Such silly mistakes that gave KT the victory. Storks decision to go 2 reavers instead of a shuttle, and then suiciding it. Followed by Jangbi losing two high templars to a scarab in a crucial moment. And we have an ace match. Also, Juni hesitated far too much. He could've easily taken out Flash's Natural and pushed a bit into the main. Guess he got starstruck. KT looking far from solid. Juni was not breaking that natural with 30 marines and 2 bunkers. He would've traded armies and then been 2 base vs 2base terran. Containing and expanding was his best shot. His build was sort of an all-in build though and he certainly was playing it out like one. If he really pressed in without hesitating I think he would have been able to take Flash's nat out. He would have gotten in there when there was only one bunker and he had +1 at the time. Oh well. I don't agree I just cant see Flash losing the Nat to that force. What I think Juni's biggest mistake was after that he didn't put a Lurker on the ramp at his 4th to repel the 5 rines+1 medic which took it down. One fewer lurker wouldn't have made a difference in the middle but would have kept that 4th alive until he could get the nydus up. That said it wouldn't have put Juni in a great position, he would've locked himself into a macro game against Flash.
On December 01 2010 02:08 TanGeng wrote:
Do your feel that your opponent was out of form at all?
▲ I don't feel that way. At the time, I didn't feel like I was in any trouble, but when I watched the VOD afterwards, I discovered that it was very dangerous. After the match, I really wondered, "Was the opponent scared of my reputation? Or was he just too nervous?" Anyways, I believe that he assessed the situation incorrectly.
Flash seems to believe that juni's force could easily have broken him.
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On December 03 2010 10:30 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 21:07 revy wrote:On December 01 2010 12:42 koreasilver wrote:On December 01 2010 04:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:On December 01 2010 03:44 Emon_ wrote:
Such silly mistakes that gave KT the victory. Storks decision to go 2 reavers instead of a shuttle, and then suiciding it. Followed by Jangbi losing two high templars to a scarab in a crucial moment. And we have an ace match. Also, Juni hesitated far too much. He could've easily taken out Flash's Natural and pushed a bit into the main. Guess he got starstruck. KT looking far from solid. Juni was not breaking that natural with 30 marines and 2 bunkers. He would've traded armies and then been 2 base vs 2base terran. Containing and expanding was his best shot. His build was sort of an all-in build though and he certainly was playing it out like one. If he really pressed in without hesitating I think he would have been able to take Flash's nat out. He would have gotten in there when there was only one bunker and he had +1 at the time. Oh well. I don't agree I just cant see Flash losing the Nat to that force. What I think Juni's biggest mistake was after that he didn't put a Lurker on the ramp at his 4th to repel the 5 rines+1 medic which took it down. One fewer lurker wouldn't have made a difference in the middle but would have kept that 4th alive until he could get the nydus up. That said it wouldn't have put Juni in a great position, he would've locked himself into a macro game against Flash. Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 02:08 TanGeng wrote:
Do your feel that your opponent was out of form at all?
▲ I don't feel that way. At the time, I didn't feel like I was in any trouble, but when I watched the VOD afterwards, I discovered that it was very dangerous. After the match, I really wondered, "Was the opponent scared of my reputation? Or was he just too nervous?" Anyways, I believe that he assessed the situation incorrectly.
Flash seems to believe that juni's force could easily have broken him.
Since when "it was very dangerous" equals "his forces could have easily broken me"?
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Since "Anyways, I believe that he assessed the situation incorrectly."
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On December 03 2010 11:44 ShadeR wrote:
Since "Anyways, I believe that he assessed the situation incorrectly."
umm i think flash thought because juni was making a sort of a rush build, he should've commited to it instead of being indecisive. And yea it did seem that he had a chance there but to me, flash certainly doesn't seem to believe he would've been broken easily based on that interview.
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Flash kills 10 lurkers with 20 marines without bunkers and tanks, you guys honestly think it would've worked WITH them?
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On December 03 2010 11:44 ShadeR wrote:
Since "Anyways, I believe that he assessed the situation incorrectly."
No. There is absolutely nothing in Flash's quote which would suggest that he thinks that Juni's forces could've easily broken him.
Juni could've played this much better, that's true...but easily broken Flash? C'mon...
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On December 02 2010 21:07 revy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 12:42 koreasilver wrote:On December 01 2010 04:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:On December 01 2010 03:44 Emon_ wrote:
Such silly mistakes that gave KT the victory. Storks decision to go 2 reavers instead of a shuttle, and then suiciding it. Followed by Jangbi losing two high templars to a scarab in a crucial moment. And we have an ace match. Also, Juni hesitated far too much. He could've easily taken out Flash's Natural and pushed a bit into the main. Guess he got starstruck. KT looking far from solid. Juni was not breaking that natural with 30 marines and 2 bunkers. He would've traded armies and then been 2 base vs 2base terran. Containing and expanding was his best shot. His build was sort of an all-in build though and he certainly was playing it out like one. If he really pressed in without hesitating I think he would have been able to take Flash's nat out. He would have gotten in there when there was only one bunker and he had +1 at the time. Oh well. I don't agree I just cant see Flash losing the Nat to that force. What I think Juni's biggest mistake was after that he didn't put a Lurker on the ramp at his 4th to repel the 5 rines+1 medic which took it down. One fewer lurker wouldn't have made a difference in the middle but would have kept that 4th alive until he could get the nydus up. That said it wouldn't have put Juni in a great position, he would've locked himself into a macro game against Flash.
You should've heard me bitching that whole game about lurker placement -_-. Juni had the worst decision making I've seen in a game in some time.
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On December 03 2010 10:30 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 21:07 revy wrote:On December 01 2010 12:42 koreasilver wrote:On December 01 2010 04:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:On December 01 2010 03:44 Emon_ wrote:
Such silly mistakes that gave KT the victory. Storks decision to go 2 reavers instead of a shuttle, and then suiciding it. Followed by Jangbi losing two high templars to a scarab in a crucial moment. And we have an ace match. Also, Juni hesitated far too much. He could've easily taken out Flash's Natural and pushed a bit into the main. Guess he got starstruck. KT looking far from solid. Juni was not breaking that natural with 30 marines and 2 bunkers. He would've traded armies and then been 2 base vs 2base terran. Containing and expanding was his best shot. His build was sort of an all-in build though and he certainly was playing it out like one. If he really pressed in without hesitating I think he would have been able to take Flash's nat out. He would have gotten in there when there was only one bunker and he had +1 at the time. Oh well. I don't agree I just cant see Flash losing the Nat to that force. What I think Juni's biggest mistake was after that he didn't put a Lurker on the ramp at his 4th to repel the 5 rines+1 medic which took it down. One fewer lurker wouldn't have made a difference in the middle but would have kept that 4th alive until he could get the nydus up. That said it wouldn't have put Juni in a great position, he would've locked himself into a macro game against Flash. Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 02:08 TanGeng wrote:
Do your feel that your opponent was out of form at all?
▲ I don't feel that way. At the time, I didn't feel like I was in any trouble, but when I watched the VOD afterwards, I discovered that it was very dangerous. After the match, I really wondered, "Was the opponent scared of my reputation? Or was he just too nervous?" Anyways, I believe that he assessed the situation incorrectly.
Flash seems to believe that juni's force could easily have broken him.
Almost positive that's him speaking about Turn, Turn had him in a much worse position than Juni did.
After re-reading the interview I guess they were speaking about the Juni game. I still can't see Juni breaking Flash, it's Flash. Go watch Flash v Zero on Polaris and then tell me that Juni could break Flash's defense.
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On December 02 2010 19:30 vectorix108 wrote:
man i wish all the match-fixers werent gone. Luxury was actually a good zerg... KT never recovered from his loss.
you mean how they didn't recover by winning proleague grand finals?
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KT's regular season performance most notably dropped off after the Luxury leaving part, but I actually think that had more to do with the change of format. KT seems to struggle in playing against unsure opponent's. They crushed SKT, not only because of prep time, but because they had a good idea of who was playing what map.
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