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To be fair though, this is only one round of many.
KT had a few bad games towards the end of last season (Flash and his ACE match losing streak) and still managed to win it.
While this round may be a write-off, I'm sure they'll rebound and start kicking ass like usual. (Even teams like ACE were getting manhandled for all last year and still had a few rounds where they were owning).
The day to panic for KT is the day Flash starts slumping hardcore, but in his current form he is still dismantling even the best "vT" snipers.
The only questionable call is why the coaches continue to use clearly sub-par players such as Hoejja and Suny. If ForGG had gone out today instead of Suny, there would have been a much greater chance of KT success based on ForGG's TvZ. Instead, they decided to send out the clearly weak Suny and then had no choice but to send out someone OTHER than ForGG, because obviously Entus would send out Skyhigh to clean up any TvT.
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The thing most people don't realize about the thumbs down ceremony is that it's been a CJ trademark for the past 5 years, savior was the one who started it (mostly in photoshoots tho) and skyhigh was the one who continued the tradition when he was still a promising rookie, it's a CJ thing.
Even if now they're all happy and smiling it's because of the influence from the former hite players, they still are Entus.
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Glad Flash absolutely handed snow his ass though. His convincing PvT loss to snow last year was kinda the pink elephant throughout the year
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When Flash scouted Snow's cheese and the commentator was like "OH MY GAH" I literally lol'd.
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On November 15 2010 06:10 zerious wrote:
When Flash scouted Snow's cheese and the commentator was like "OH MY GAH" I literally lol'd.
When I saw pylon position I sighed...
This kinda bugged me, I mean Flash has predicted every cheese with 100% chance. Literally, he has scouted everytime... luck, skill... sence? Whatever it is, kinda feels silly to try it over and over. And what the heck is that proxy position, how could someone with Flash caliber not even see it?
Whole game against Snow was mindnumbling onesided. I really hoped Snow would made it intresting game and even worth while, afterall it was in "recommended" section. Somehow the stigma of new player showed there.
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Just watched Flash vs Snow, and it was not what I expected, but I definitely agree with the recommendation. Flash somehow improved his TvP, by incorporating Boxer/Fantasy-esque drops in his game plan. At one point, you could just tell that Snow got completely dismantled and could not keep up with Flash's rhythm at all. Kind of felt like Bisu vs. Savior in their first encounter.
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MBC will 4-0 KT.
Jaehoon > Flash
You heard it here first.
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Was out for the weekend, just got back.
I predicted a KT win (Horang2 < Action, Skyhigh < Violet, Snow < Flash, Leta > Forgg, Hydra > Hoejja, Hogil < Stats), glad that Hite pulled through! Leta getting back on track and beating a quality opponent (i.e. not Modesty), Skyhigh winning vs. P... wow.
Even as a Snow fan, I had a feeling that there would be a rematch and that Flash would take it. From reading the LR, it sounds like it was more one-sided than I would have hoped. Sigh... proxy gate then proxy robo? Really? Come on. I might watch it just for the incredible multitasking by Flash I've been hearing about, but I'll probably cringe.
Glad Mafiazerg finally won though, and is coming out of his slump. Speaking of Modesty earlier, though, Hite needs to purchase him. Then, with Skyhigh and Horang2, we'll have the whole damn set.
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Disappointed in Snow. His Winner's League cheese against Flash was much more solid, and only failed because Flash played perfectly. Here Flash played really well, but I feel Snow would have been better off with a macro game.
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Great job Hite! Keep fighting, keep winning! :D
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On November 15 2010 06:48 Jienny wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2010 06:10 zerious wrote:
When Flash scouted Snow's cheese and the commentator was like "OH MY GAH" I literally lol'd.
When I saw pylon position I sighed... This kinda bugged me, I mean Flash has predicted every cheese with 100% chance. Literally, he has scouted everytime... luck, skill... sence? Whatever it is, kinda feels silly to try it over and over. And what the heck is that proxy position, how could someone with Flash caliber not even see it? Whole game against Snow was mindnumbling onesided. I really hoped Snow would made it intresting game and even worth while, afterall it was in "recommended" section. Somehow the stigma of new player showed there.
I have been skeptical that they could manage to see other's move with "totally internal reflection".
I hope someone from Korea could sit in those game cube and confirm whether there is reflection from glass that players could see the game play....
Think about it, how come snow would place a pylon so close to flash's base without scouting ...
They must somehow know other player's base...
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On November 15 2010 13:38 underxb wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2010 06:48 Jienny wrote:On November 15 2010 06:10 zerious wrote:
When Flash scouted Snow's cheese and the commentator was like "OH MY GAH" I literally lol'd.
When I saw pylon position I sighed... This kinda bugged me, I mean Flash has predicted every cheese with 100% chance. Literally, he has scouted everytime... luck, skill... sence? Whatever it is, kinda feels silly to try it over and over. And what the heck is that proxy position, how could someone with Flash caliber not even see it? Whole game against Snow was mindnumbling onesided. I really hoped Snow would made it intresting game and even worth while, afterall it was in "recommended" section. Somehow the stigma of new player showed there. I have been skeptical that they could manage to see other's move with "totally internal reflection". I hope someone from Korea could sit in those game cube and confirm whether there is reflection from glass that players could see the game play.... Think about it, how come snow would place a pylon so close to flash's base without scouting ... They must somehow know other player's base...
It's a 2 player map -_-. To look at something 10 meters across and see these phantom reflections off a small computer screen would be impossible, even if they are there. Hell, hold up a mirror in the booth and one would have to squint and take time to digest exactly what that tiny image is trying to say.
Flash scouts early and often, so it's not unthinkable that Flash sees it right off the bat. had the scv continued to snow's base, Flash would have seen something amiss anyway.
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"Skyhigh...at the very least solid in TvZ"
Sorry, these two concepts do not go together. 1947 ELO <> "solid". In fact only two Terrans are lower: Notice and Suny.
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On November 15 2010 06:56 Cambium wrote:
Just watched Flash vs Snow, and it was not what I expected, but I definitely agree with the recommendation. Flash somehow improved his TvP, by incorporating Boxer/Fantasy-esque drops in his game plan. At one point, you could just tell that Snow got completely dismantled and could not keep up with Flash's rhythm at all. Kind of felt like Bisu vs. Savior in their first encounter.
It looked like Snow had prepared an early rush. He let the gateway finish and Flash killed it, so he lost 150 really early. Not to mention the 100 minerals pylon and the loss of gas mining because of the late assimilator. Arguably Flash had an equal disadvantage because of pulling 4 SCVs.
In order to regain any kind of position in the game, Snow tried proxy reavers (a mineral heavy, gas light transition) while Flash could go dropships and fail because of his lead. It didn't feel much of a game once Flash scouted the robotics. And he let it live all game for the BM value. I'm sure deep down he still fears Snow
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And he let it live all game for the BM value
Actually there are no BM or fear. It is common practices in Go to skip unnecessary movements and concentrate on important ones. The building was formally dead why bother about it?
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Benzene looks really annoying for harass, REALLY annoying. So no wonder he chose that strategy. Didn't think it was a particularly impressive game considering it was over from the beginning basically.
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On November 15 2010 19:41 Yodo wrote:Actually there are no BM or fear. It is common practices in Go to skip unnecessary movements and concentrate on important ones. The building was formally dead why bother about it?
It wasn't dead. Snow was making observers and shuttles from it all game. At one point the observers points to the robotics and there were two observers and a shuttle there.
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On November 17 2010 01:39 Emon_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2010 19:41 Yodo wrote:And he let it live all game for the BM value Actually there are no BM or fear. It is common practices in Go to skip unnecessary movements and concentrate on important ones. The building was formally dead why bother about it? It wasn't dead. Snow was making observers and shuttles from it all game. At one point the observers points to the robotics and there were two observers and a shuttle there.
I also think killing the robotics would be unnecessary. If Flash brings enough firepower into Snow's territory to take down the robotics, then he might as well go a little bit more distance to try to take down an expansion.
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Lol Snow, what was that? It's not so easy if you don't have weeks to prepare for sniping a player busy with two individual leagues, eh?
Glad that Flash showed who's the boss here.
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On November 15 2010 17:35 Emon_ wrote:
I'm sure deep down he still fears Snow
GWAHAHAHAHAHA! That's the funniest thing I've ever heard. XD
Flash fears no one.
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