Air Force ACE and KT Rolster finished the last season as last and first, respectively. This would quite probably be one of the least anticipated matches of the proleague, if it weren't for the recent 4-0 smackdown of Air Force ACE and the seeming vulnerability of Flash vs. Best in the first match of the season. Do I expect ACE to win this? Absolutely not. Flash showed his true colours in his matches against HiyA and a thorough demolishing of RorO. foRGG, Stats, Violet and Action should be enough to give any team a serious beating, especially if Action meets a Terran like Ruby. What I do think is that ACE has a good chance of taking it to, well... Ace. This wouldn't be the first time Much, ggaemo, Ruby or YellOw would pull a significant upset, and if M18M meets up with either ForGG, Stats or Violet, I would put the chances at 55-45. firebathero is still a big questionmark, as his current performance might have well been a really lucky game. He still has a really depressing slump behind him and a single win doesn't just erase all of that.
On October 26 2010 16:49 hoppipolla wrote: Easy 4-0 sweep for ACE. Right? Right?
On October 26 2010 17:08 TimeOut wrote: GO ACE, another 4-0! ACE fighting!
As much as I'd like to see that happen, it's not very likely, after all KT have acquired Action this season In all seriousness tho, even if Ace keep up their good performance from last time I could see this going 4-2 in their favour. In fact this game could go anywhere from "Ace 4-2 KT" to "Ace 0-4 KT" right now, and would be very interesting to watch. Key moments to look out for would be how many scouts and infested CCs are going to show up in the games, as well as if Firebathero is going to meet and beat Flash. Stay tuned to find out more.
The safe bet is KT beating Ace like a red-headed stepchild. Ace players have shown some promise lately however, and everybody is happy whenever Ace wins.
After a 4:0 win over MBC, anything can happen. After all, the Yellow curse is about to finally migrate away from Ace... and back to KT.
Hmm stream is working for me. I guess I will LR till people get the stream back?
Hmm so dark templar (two of them) are patrolling around the map checking for expansions. Stats adding cannons at natural. Guess he fears dem hydras. Both sides getting good scouting from their aerial units.
Guess it's a good thing the stream goes out when not that much is happening I guess.
That's a lot of lurkers for GoRush - surely if he were to attack the flimsy defense at Stats' third, it would fall in pieces as if it was blown away by a hurricane.
http://www.yaoyuan.com/live.php should be working. Can't trying now cuz I'm at office. And usually because they recast it in chinese, it's delayed by 6/7 minutes. requires IE. I know it sucks, but it's better than nothing.
Hmm so like Ultra cavern is up for GoRush. 5 bases to 4 right now. PLAGUE on death ball; that's a lot of goons. GoRush expanding to inner 9 and Stats tries to attack, but doesn't commit other than for a few storms.
On October 26 2010 18:35 Piste wrote: Craton has usually great stream quality, what happened? ( is there a way to have direct stream from somehwre?
If you have Internet Explorer and either pplive or uusee, you can go to 1.plu.cn and watch the chinese restream. Doesn't work for some people, and has Chinese voiceovers.
2:00 being dropped! Cannons down, but Reavers are there... Ultras simultaneously attacking at inner 12 with swarm support! But once again with a Reaver I don't think the ultras will do much.
Meanwhile Stats razes inner 9. I'm beginning to see the Archon-Reaver deathball forming.
Storm drop at 10 nets a lot of drones, and 2 is completely razed. Shit that's a lot of templars being made... lots of archons being morphed... Splashtoss deathball incoming...
Stats rebuilding 2.
Ultra/ling engage Archon/zealot in the middle, but are driven back by the protoss--- STORM DROP. LOTS OF DEAD DRONES.
Stats now expanding to 3 as well, and the base at 7:30 is almost razed by zealot(s?) but is saved by lings.
Meanwhile large floating blue balls continue to hold the main, and 7:30 is taken down by two more heroic zealots.
Nice dodge at 3! Evades a storm drop and kills a shuttle for the cost of one drone. And then something stormed again while I was typing and an Ultralisk appeared? Hmm.
Stats decides he doesn't give a fuck and heads towards the bases at bottom right. Meanwhile his main is being pwned. 3 being attacked by lots of Ultras! Reavers won't hold mang. Just kidding it does.
Single guardian causing probes to flee at 3 hahahaha. Meanwhile lings rape inner 12 with its bay and facility. Hive died to those same two heroic zealots.
Inner 4 being rebuilt. Ninja lings take out the probe and a nearby templar while two archons spin in circles. another drop incoming... STORMUUUUUUUU Hmm that's all of GoRush's drones.
That takes balls as big as that chin to stick that out. He did a base trade while he had one mining base, and then kept getting chiseled up until he has just that base. And then he killed fucking everything. Broodwar is the best.
Just curious: Are there a lot of empty seats because A) This is an un-anticipated match? B) SCBW isn't that popular any more? C) Tickets are expensive and everyone expects it to be one-sided?
GoRush shall be avenged by his brethren! ggaemo > Flash incoming shortly mang.
Also hong jin hooooooooo
On October 26 2010 19:04 Sirgery wrote: Just curious: Are there a lot of empty seats because A) This is an un-anticipated match? B) SCBW isn't that popular any more? C) Tickets are expensive and everyone expects it to be one-sided?
Hmm tickets are free? Probably a combination of A and B but I don't know.
On October 26 2010 19:04 Sirgery wrote: Just curious: Are there a lot of empty seats because A) This is an un-anticipated match? B) SCBW isn't that popular any more? C) Tickets are expensive and everyone expects it to be one-sided?
As far as I know these events are free to attend, so not C. Probably more A than B, hopefully, but they are both playing parts.
On October 26 2010 19:04 Sirgery wrote: Just curious: Are there a lot of empty seats because A) This is an un-anticipated match? B) SCBW isn't that popular any more? C) Tickets are expensive and everyone expects it to be one-sided?
as far as i know it's a mixture of: a) being a weeknight rather than weekend match, b) MBC studio generally gets less of a crown than OGN, c) not exactly the biggest matchup; this is pretty normal for an unanticipated weeknight MBC match since ive been watching (2008)
On October 26 2010 19:04 Sirgery wrote: Just curious: Are there a lot of empty seats because A) This is an un-anticipated match? B) SCBW isn't that popular any more? C) Tickets are expensive and everyone expects it to be one-sided?
On October 26 2010 19:04 Sirgery wrote: Just curious: Are there a lot of empty seats because A) This is an un-anticipated match? B) SCBW isn't that popular any more? C) Tickets are expensive and everyone expects it to be one-sided?
oz stx last night was full, woojing skt today had a decent turnout. really depends on matchup
On October 26 2010 19:04 Sirgery wrote: Just curious: Are there a lot of empty seats because A) This is an un-anticipated match? B) SCBW isn't that popular any more? C) Tickets are expensive and everyone expects it to be one-sided?
As far as I know these events are free to attend, so not C. Probably more A than B, hopefully, but they are both playing parts.
Ah - that surprises me; thousands will turn out to see an OSL or MSL finals and they can't fill dozens of seats to see the finalist from both of those (albeit in a match that's not nearly as interesting or important). Thanks much for the info.
On October 26 2010 19:04 Sirgery wrote: Just curious: Are there a lot of empty seats because A) This is an un-anticipated match? B) SCBW isn't that popular any more? C) Tickets are expensive and everyone expects it to be one-sided?
BW matches are free.
GSL took away some viewers. However, audience numbers have increased since last week so it's getting better now.
On October 26 2010 19:23 McDonalds wrote: So he exited the game lobby before the game started? Did he actually exit it manually or was there a problem?
Actually who cares, just start a new one. It's not like an existing game was impacted if that is the case.
On October 26 2010 19:25 ShadeR wrote: Not like Kespa could have let Ruby off seeing as how Bacho screwed it up last last too.
I'm inclined to agree. The shitstorm they will face if their decision isn't by the book (the official definition of start of the game) will be worse if they let it go.
That's just stupid. Can't they just give him a warning or something... I wanted to see Flash play today. Ruby did so well against him the last time too
On October 26 2010 19:25 ShadeR wrote: Not like Kespa could have let Ruby off seeing as how Bacho screwed it up last last too.
I'm inclined to agree. The shitstorm they will face if their decision isn't by the book (the official definition of start of the game) will be worse if they let it go.
THIS.
If it's in the rules that countdown is considered the start of the game then Ruby left the game after it started.
On October 26 2010 19:25 ShadeR wrote: Not like Kespa could have let Ruby off seeing as how Bacho screwed it up last last too.
I'm inclined to agree. The shitstorm they will face if their decision isn't by the book (the official definition of start of the game) will be worse if they let it go.
The question is why they would define the beginning of the game as before the beginning of the game in the first place.
it's not the good time for Kespa to get unfavorable public opinion... this is a very particular case, I think they should have asked Flash if he accepted a rematch, and Flash would have accepted !
If that decision was made "by the book," so be it - treating every situation the same way is ok. However, the book obviously needs to be changed if matches can turn out like that.
Doesn't Kespa ask the players if they are ready? and then says they are starting the game, so leaving during count down would seem to be a huge problem.
On October 26 2010 19:25 ShadeR wrote: Not like Kespa could have let Ruby off seeing as how Bacho screwed it up last last too.
I'm inclined to agree. The shitstorm they will face if their decision isn't by the book (the official definition of start of the game) will be worse if they let it go.
The question is why they would define the beginning of the game as before the beginning of the game in the first place.
I assume there's some rules about this sort of thing and this is a case of them being applied, it would be interesting to see the rules. Would perhaps be better if they gave warnings and such, like with false starts in athletics and such
On October 26 2010 19:29 Sirgery wrote: If that decision was made "by the book," so be it - treating every situation the same way is ok. However, the book obviously needs to be changed if matches can turn out like that.
It's not ok really. The circumstances need to be taken into account in every decision. If legal systems worked that way there would be clerks instead of judges.
EDIT: I'm not talking really about this decision, just the idea that 'by the book' is a good way to make judgments.
On October 26 2010 19:25 ShadeR wrote: Not like Kespa could have let Ruby off seeing as how Bacho screwed it up last last too.
I'm inclined to agree. The shitstorm they will face if their decision isn't by the book (the official definition of start of the game) will be worse if they let it go.
The question is why they would define the beginning of the game as before the beginning of the game in the first place.
Perhaps next round they may revise the rules, but right now the only correct decision was to DQ Ruby.
On October 26 2010 19:30 structuralinertia wrote: I assume there's some rules about this sort of thing and this is a case of them being applied, it would be interesting to see the rules. Would perhaps be better if they gave warnings and such, like with false starts in athletics and such
I agree. Possibly one or two warnings of such per season. I want it as one, so there will be very little room for possible abuse.
He's no amateur, it was a silly mistake. If they rematch because he left 3 seconds after the start, the next player who leaves 20 seconds or 1 min into the start will demand a rematch as well.
whats the point of having a referee if you just follow rules verbatim theres supposed to be a "judgement" not a "well u left LOL U LOSE NOW HAR HAR so fucking retarded.
honestly, if they asked flash he'd say regame, if they asked the KT coach he'd say regame, wheres the fucking harm. WHY DO THEY HATE THE FUCKING FANS SO FUCKING MUCH JESUS CHRIST
On October 26 2010 19:32 Ryo wrote: He's no amateur, it was a silly mistake. If they rematch because he left 3 seconds after the start, the next player who leaves 20 seconds or 1 min into the start will demand a rematch as well.
That doesn't make any sense. The game hadn't begun yet. He didn't mess up his SCV split and exit the game.
On October 26 2010 19:34 GTR wrote: Kespa will always be Kespa. Doesn't bother me. You have to be honestly pretty retarded to press cancel during the countdown of a live game.
Uhm, no? I find it very difficult to believe that you've never clicked something without intending to before. Don't make it into something it isn't. He made a mistake but the game really hadn't started yet. I hope they face some pressure over that so they will revise the rule.
On October 26 2010 19:30 darktreb wrote: This is gonna cost Flash most wins at the end of the season I bet
No because it's still accounted as a win.
So will Flash get a winner's interview? (assuming of course kt wins) Really looking forward to that.
Getting a winner interview means you won a game. Having a win accounted in your record doesn't mean you will have a winner interview. I don't understand what you are trying to say. Look at the score on top of the screen if you are implying that the win is not taken in account.
edit : anyway Flash will probably get an interview to know his thoughts about Kespa's decision.
On October 26 2010 19:29 Sirgery wrote: If that decision was made "by the book," so be it - treating every situation the same way is ok. However, the book obviously needs to be changed if matches can turn out like that.
It's not ok really. The circumstances need to be taken into account in every decision. If legal systems worked that way there would be clerks instead of judges.
in fact legal systems do largely work that way (well at least the common law ones that im familiar with); for complex matters and areas where there is a partial absence of legislation, due to perhaps the complex nature of the problem, there is some room for juridical discretion; but many things are simple and often even automatic, as in speeding (expiation) offences where there is no real ambiguity. The case at hand is pretty unambiguous and there is no room for discretion as long as the rule says what it does. But like Sirgery says if there is a problem with the rule then it is the rule that needs changing
On October 26 2010 19:32 Ryo wrote: He's no amateur, it was a silly mistake. If they rematch because he left 3 seconds after the start, the next player who leaves 20 seconds or 1 min into the start will demand a rematch as well.
this. Seriously, stop raging over a 100% correct decision. Yeah it sucks that we don't get to see Flash playing, but if you want to rage, rage about Ruby for doing something completely retarded.
Just as I was starting to develop a rose-tinted glasses attitude towards Kespa, they pull off some stuff like this. I really don't know how they have the balls to give out such decisions at a time like this. You know MBC getting sued, and whatnot. Very disrespectful to the players and everyone...
On October 26 2010 19:29 Sirgery wrote: If that decision was made "by the book," so be it - treating every situation the same way is ok. However, the book obviously needs to be changed if matches can turn out like that.
It's not ok really. The circumstances need to be taken into account in every decision. If legal systems worked that way there would be clerks instead of judges.
in fact legal systems do largely work that way (well at least the common law ones that im familiar with); for complex matters and areas where there is a partial absence of legislation, due to perhaps the complex nature of the problem, there is some room for juridical discretion; but many things are simple and often even automatic, as in speeding (expiation) offences where there is no real ambiguity. The case at hand is pretty unambiguous and there is no room for discretion as long as the rule says what it does. But like Sirgery says if there is a problem with the rule then it is the rule that needs changing
those offences dont have criminal records, they're a fine.
If they want to put a fine in for that, sure. but its like going "well you pointed a gun at someone, you're getting 6 years". Sure most of the time its justified, but one in 1000 times, someone is MAKING you do it, and THEY should go to prison not you. Honestly, so retarded
Technicly the decision was correct within kespa rules but seriously you have to be utterly retarded to make rules like that and think this will make it fair :\
The rule may be retarded and definately needs to be revised, but the refs have to follow protocol and award the DQ. People are forgetting that eSports as an organised spectator sport is still fairly young and that shit like this and pp/p will happen.
When i press the start button it says "starting in 5...4...3..2..1"
It means it hasn't started yet.
If their definition is when the start button is pressed, then either the korean version of the text is totally different from the english version of bw or they don't know what "start" means
On October 26 2010 19:44 LaoShuAiDaMi wrote: When i press the start button it says "starting in 5...4...3..2..1"
It means it hasn't started yet.
If their definition is when the start button is pressed, then either the korean version of the text is totally different from the english version of bw or they don't know what "start" means
they ask if the players are ready before pressing the start button
On October 26 2010 19:40 HappyHour wrote: Technicly the decision was correct within kespa rules but seriously you have to be utterly retarded to make rules like that and think this will make it fair :\
No, the rule is not retarded. The only retarded thing in the game was Ruby leaving the game. Especially with the BackHo/Jesus thing yesterday we can see that. Were is the edge? 3 seconds into the game? 10? 20? 30? If you say 30 seconds what if someone does a mistake 33 seconds into the game? And when exactly does the game count as started?
The rules have defined when the game starts and there is nothing wrong with it.
On October 26 2010 19:47 Fenrax wrote: No, the rule is not retarded. The only retarded thing in the game was Ruby leaving the game. Especially with the BackHo/Jesus thing yesterday we can see that. Were is the edge? 3 seconds into the game? 10? 20? 30? If you say 30 seconds what if someone does a mistake 33 seconds into the game? And when exactly does the game count as started?
The rules have defined when the game starts and there is nothing wrong with it.
Stop trying to inject slippery slope nonsense into the debate. The game hadn't started. Nobody had a chance to do well or do poorly. The rule should be changed.
On October 26 2010 19:47 Fenrax wrote: No, the rule is not retarded. The only retarded thing in the game was Ruby leaving the game. Especially with the BackHo/Jesus thing yesterday we can see that. Were is the edge? 3 seconds into the game? 10? 20? 30? If you say 30 seconds what if someone does a mistake 33 seconds into the game? And when exactly does the game count as started?
The rules have defined when the game starts and there is nothing wrong with it.
Stop trying to inject slippery slope nonsense into the debate. The game hadn't started. Nobody had a chance to do well or do poorly. The rule should be changed.
although he's right in that flash had the advantage even before the game started :D
If the rules have to be applied strictly in all situations, then the refrees are unnecessary.Their job is to provide fair interpretation of the rules - especially when the rules itself may induce stupid outcome, like in this case.
On October 26 2010 19:44 LaoShuAiDaMi wrote: When i press the start button it says "starting in 5...4...3..2..1"
It means it hasn't started yet.
If their definition is when the start button is pressed, then either the korean version of the text is totally different from the english version of bw or they don't know what "start" means
Well, the countdown doesn't begin until after the referee has initiated the game by pressing the start button. You are arguing that the wording in the game should be key to defining the game, Kespa are arguing that the referee initiating the game should be defining. Both arguments are valid.
Personally I don't particularly care which definition they use as long as they apply their rules consistently. And really, where they draw the line should be a complete non-issue. Players unintentionally tapping out of televised games shouldn't happen.
On October 26 2010 19:52 imreker wrote: If the rules have to be applied strictly in all situations, then the refrees are unnecessary.Their job is to provide fair interpretation of the rules - epecially when the rules itself may induce stupid outcome, like in this case.
But imagin if the refs could make a decision based on each different situation, according on the different aspect that affected the situation.
Wow talk about drama it would be every singel time kespa had to step in.
It can never be unfair if the rules are the same for every player in every situation.
On October 26 2010 19:34 GTR wrote: Kespa will always be Kespa. Doesn't bother me. You have to be honestly pretty retarded to press cancel during the countdown of a live game.
Uhm, no? I find it very difficult to believe that you've never clicked something without intending to before. Don't make it into something it isn't. He made a mistake but the game really hadn't started yet. I hope they face some pressure over that so they will revise the rule.
He's a progamer, a PRO-gamer with many years of experience.
On October 26 2010 19:34 GTR wrote: Kespa will always be Kespa. Doesn't bother me. You have to be honestly pretty retarded to press cancel during the countdown of a live game.
Uhm, no? I find it very difficult to believe that you've never clicked something without intending to before. Don't make it into something it isn't. He made a mistake but the game really hadn't started yet. I hope they face some pressure over that so they will revise the rule.
He's a progamer, a PRO-gamer with many years of experience.
Oh stop it. Pro-gamers aren't the only people with years of experience using a mouse. The game. Hadn't. Begun.
This is the best game I have seen from Barracks and he's still getting outplayed by ggaemo, which isn't as much of an insult as it would have been a year ago
On October 26 2010 19:52 imreker wrote: If the rules have to be applied strictly in all situations, then the refrees are unnecessary.Their job is to provide fair interpretation of the rules - epecially when the rules itself may induce stupid outcome, like in this case.
But imagin if the refs could make a decision based on each different situation, according on the different aspect that affected the situation.
Wow talk about drama it would be every singel time kespa had to step in.
It can never be unfair if the rules are the same for every player in every situation.
I agree that the rules should be strict about in-game situations. But the game never even started...
On October 26 2010 19:52 imreker wrote: If the rules have to be applied strictly in all situations, then the refrees are unnecessary.Their job is to provide fair interpretation of the rules - epecially when the rules itself may induce stupid outcome, like in this case.
But imagin if the refs could make a decision based on each different situation, according on the different aspect that affected the situation.
Wow talk about drama it would be every singel time kespa had to step in.
It can never be unfair if the rules are the same for every player in every situation.
I agree that the rules should be strict about in-game situations. But the game never even started...
On October 26 2010 19:52 imreker wrote: If the rules have to be applied strictly in all situations, then the refrees are unnecessary.Their job is to provide fair interpretation of the rules - epecially when the rules itself may induce stupid outcome, like in this case.
But imagin if the refs could make a decision based on each different situation, according on the different aspect that affected the situation.
Wow talk about drama it would be every singel time kespa had to step in.
It can never be unfair if the rules are the same for every player in every situation.
I agree that the rules should be strict about in-game situations. But the game never even started...
On October 26 2010 20:00 thopol wrote: This is amazing. How did ggaemo get good when he went to ace? How does that work?
I suspect that the Oz coaches put all their effort into Jaedong. It seems like Jaedong is literally the only one with any relationship with the coaching staff.
I guess its not surprising if neglected players suddenly play better when they're in an environment where they actually matter.
On October 26 2010 20:00 thopol wrote: This is amazing. How did ggaemo get good when he went to ace? How does that work?
I suspect that the Oz coaches put all their effort into Jaedong. It seems like Jaedong is literally the only one with any relationship with the coaching staff.
I guess its not surprising if neglected players suddenly play better when they're in an environment where they actually matter.
You may be right. The cyworld of the current Coach in charge of Oz looks like a Jaedong fanboy's cyworld. Hardly anything about Oz, mostly Jaedong.
On October 26 2010 19:52 imreker wrote: If the rules have to be applied strictly in all situations, then the refrees are unnecessary.Their job is to provide fair interpretation of the rules - epecially when the rules itself may induce stupid outcome, like in this case.
But imagin if the refs could make a decision based on each different situation, according on the different aspect that affected the situation.
Wow talk about drama it would be every singel time kespa had to step in.
It can never be unfair if the rules are the same for every player in every situation.
I agree that the rules should be strict about in-game situations. But the game never even started...
You do realize FBH was once a top level T (at least in 2 MU's)? Like ''I smash JD with BC's''-top level?
Jesus he was so bad it TvP. Even when he had the two best PvTers of the time as practice partners...
Well he did have that fluke TvP run during Club Day.
That was totally awesome. I had forgotten about that (I lost details from my progaming knowledge when I had memory loss). I love remembering things that I like! I should go check out VODs...
You do realize FBH was once a top level T (at least in 2 MU's)? Like ''I smash JD with BC's''-top level?
Jesus he was so bad it TvP. Even when he had the two best PvTers of the time as practice partners...
Well he did have that fluke TvP run during Club Day.
That was totally awesome. I had forgotten about that (I lost details from my progaming knowledge when I had memory loss). I love remembering things that I like! I should go check out VODs...
Huh that must be cool... omg that epic series! Now I remember!
You do realize FBH was once a top level T (at least in 2 MU's)? Like ''I smash JD with BC's''-top level?
Jesus he was so bad it TvP. Even when he had the two best PvTers of the time as practice partners...
Well he did have that fluke TvP run during Club Day.
That was totally awesome. I had forgotten about that (I lost details from my progaming knowledge when I had memory loss). I love remembering things that I like! I should go check out VODs...
Yeh, I was shitting my pants when he was taking games off Much and Bisu.
You do realize FBH was once a top level T (at least in 2 MU's)? Like ''I smash JD with BC's''-top level?
Jesus he was so bad it TvP. Even when he had the two best PvTers of the time as practice partners...
Well he did have that fluke TvP run during Club Day.
That was totally awesome. I had forgotten about that (I lost details from my progaming knowledge when I had memory loss). I love remembering things that I like! I should go check out VODs...
Huh that must be cool... omg that epic series! Now I remember!
Yeah, it's fun. It's got wicked downsides as well though (duh).
On October 26 2010 20:44 Elroi wrote: Mustaju, what stream are you watching?
This one: http://1.plu.cn/ It's been posted several times on this thread already, but it's in chinese as well and requires the download of a media player in chinese. That's why I don't post it into the OP.
STOOORM! 8 goes down for Violet, but he's still economically ahead. M18m doing a templar Drop. Storm doesn't get any probes. M18M still building masses of Zealots. The templar dies.
Thanks for the LR! With M18M winning, I wonder what the next match-up is going to be. Looks kinda shaky for Ace tho, as KT is guaranteed getting to ace match...
On October 26 2010 21:23 Emon_ wrote: Quick guide on what to click to watch the stream on http://1.plu.cn/ ?
well for me, i downloaded pplive here, http://www.pplive.com/en/index.html installed it, then went to 1.plu.cn using internet explorer, then just click the pplive on the green bar and it should load up.
On October 26 2010 21:23 Emon_ wrote: Quick guide on what to click to watch the stream on http://1.plu.cn/ ?
use IE. click on PPStream. Click on PPStream again (to download the media player thingie.exe) Install it. Let IE use Activex control or what ever it asks on the top. and it should play
On October 26 2010 21:23 Emon_ wrote: Quick guide on what to click to watch the stream on http://1.plu.cn/ ?
iirc I clicked "PPlive" near the bottom, then my browser prompted me to install something, I said yes etc., then there was this wierd downloading/installation process showing the progress in the browser; once installed you should have a 'P' icon in your bottom right tab, go to the page and stream should work
sorry my instructions are wierd, i didnt know what i was doing but it worked out somehow
anyone have any idea on what kind of upload speed is required to stream? I only have about 0.9-1.1 megabit/s upload, but 10-30 download... tried using procaster but it seems my upload cant handle it
On October 26 2010 21:28 endy wrote: the games have been amazingly good this season :O (well except the second set today T_T)
Central Plains is just bloody Awesome sauce. PvP-s should ONLY be played on this map ^^
yeah PvP is usually boring, but PvPs this season are incredible ! BeSt vs free this afternoon was pure gold lol. This season is really good, the new maps are perfect, and even Ace is delivering ! I can't wait for the FPL to start ! Next week right ?
On October 26 2010 21:37 mustaju wrote: GSL can have its bloody Boxer, we have the STORMZERG.
Thats crossing the line.
MafiaZerg>StormZerg IMO.
Your KT Rolster tag gives away your bias. (even though YellOw is way more known as a member of KTF, I'm willing to ignore that to bash your KT Rolster tag.)
On October 26 2010 21:37 mustaju wrote: GSL can have its bloody Boxer, we have the STORMZERG.
Thats crossing the line.
MafiaZerg>StormZerg IMO.
Your KT Rolster tag gives away your bias. (even though YellOw is way more known as a member of KTF, I'm willing to ignore that to bash your KT Rolster tag.)
YellOw attacks with Muta scourge, Action's lings get into YellOw's base, and YellOw loses the muta battle decisively too. Should be game for YellOw now TT
OK YellOw somehow didn't lose everything to Lings, but he has much less Drones. Attacks with one last batch of Muta/Ling/Scourge and has actually pretty good micro, but Action barely saves it with newly produced Mutascourge while more Lings go to rape YellOw's base. No drones left for YellOw. YellOw loses natural hatchery. YellOw GGs.
Sigh, gg from Yellow. Could'nt keep up with the multitask it seems. His base was open to zergling raids, but his muta micro was quite a bit better than actions it seems. Even after losing so many drones, his air force came out on top, but he couldn't do enough damage as he couldn't reinforce his temporarily stronger muta force.
Noo, Yellow Losing to Action of all people in such an important game, gotta feel sorry for the guy. Ah well, there's always a next time. GG and thanks for the LR guys \o
On October 26 2010 22:01 mustaju wrote: Also, please comment on the recommended games section in my second post of this thread. If it is helpful, I'd love some feedback.
On October 26 2010 22:01 mustaju wrote: Also, please comment on the recommended games section in my second post of this thread. If it is helpful, I'd love some feedback.
On October 26 2010 22:01 mustaju wrote: Also, please comment on the recommended games section in my second post of this thread. If it is helpful, I'd love some feedback.
You've written that Ruby was disqualified for leaving the booth, is this the official story? I had assumed that someone asked him to come out.
On October 26 2010 22:01 mustaju wrote: Also, please comment on the recommended games section in my second post of this thread. If it is helpful, I'd love some feedback.
You've written that Ruby was disqualified for leaving the booth, is this the official story? I had assumed that someone asked him to come out.
That was a while back, need to update it. Read it on the stream chat.
On October 26 2010 22:01 mustaju wrote: Also, please comment on the recommended games section in my second post of this thread. If it is helpful, I'd love some feedback.
You've written that Ruby was disqualified for leaving the booth, is this the official story? I had assumed that someone asked him to come out.
That was a while back, need to update it. Read it on the stream chat.
Ok. It would have been even weirder if that was the case.
The question is whether people like descriptions along with the polls or if they want only the polls. There was a thread on that not* long ago and I want to improve.
On October 26 2010 22:10 mustaju wrote: The question is whether people like descriptions along with the polls or if they want only the polls. There was a thread on that long ago and I want to improve.
Ah, in that case: I like the description with the polls. It is more interesting that way, and you get a possible glimpse of what caused people to recommend the game.
For example the description in your first game is good. No spoiler but enough hype and a good summary of the game. I like short descriptions like "Amazing micro battles!" or "Outstanding ZvT, watch now!".
On October 26 2010 22:10 mustaju wrote: The question is whether people like descriptions along with the polls or if they want only the polls. There was a thread on that long ago and I want to improve.
I like the way it is now.Your opinions and public opinions are there but separate.
On October 26 2010 22:10 mustaju wrote: The question is whether people like descriptions along with the polls or if they want only the polls. There was a thread on that not* long ago and I want to improve.
i actually like descriptions, polls sucks sometimes due to some biased opinions...
The ruling that lead to the disqualification of Ruby is so stupid. -___- A lot of people want to see Flash play and just because Kespa can't take 10 seconds to remake the game they have to instantly disqualify the guy?
Good game ACE! 2-4 against KT is fine. No 0-4s this season. Ggaemo Airforce Bonjwa! :D M18M beating Violet is very good news. Violet is one of the better pvp players out there so the ace protoss is showing some real quality. Ruby versus Flash is just bad luck while Rock has a long way to go... But we knew that from the start.
i hope it will happen once, that a kespa referee eventually exits the game during countdown, and players will be allowed to do allied mines and shit, because the referee left, thus disqualified. and if kespa disagrees, ruby will smash their rules in their face.
taken from winners' interview:
'Q: Did Flash's win by default influence you? ForGG: Not at all. To be honest, being disqualified for accidentally quitting at the start is really regrettable. In this type of win, Flash had no chance to be dominant. I feel some pity for Ruby. Our opponent had a strategy prepared and everything, but he didn't get the chance to show his fans.'
and yes, quitting the game was pretty retard, but that doesnt mean you have to punish him with dq. just to show that kespa referees are human too, here's this game
where the referee pings one player's starting point. SO WHY NOT SELFBAN? oh? rematch, causing loser being in a worse position? we're sorry.
i agree that rules have to be strict but the game start should be defined when the countdown ends and players spawn. and in cases like this or writing pp after pause should be just rewarded with a warning and two warning in the same season means a disq or whatever. i could go in more details but makes no sense, cause its them making the rules. but as someone said it before, rules shouldn't be against the community.
EPT
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RuBy < Aztec > 
Action
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Air Force ACE 2-4 KT Rolster![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/teams/icons/uniforms/2.png){kind=icon}
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In all seriousness tho, even if Ace keep up their good performance from last time I could see this going 4-2 in their favour. In fact this game could go anywhere from "Ace 4-2 KT" to "Ace 0-4 KT" right now, and would be very interesting to watch. Key moments to look out for would be how many scouts and infested CCs are going to show up in the games, as well as if Firebathero is going to meet and beat Flash. Stay tuned to find out more.
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